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  1. Ladi Da A.
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    Maybe this was already posted, but I just read it.

    gawker.com/5669754

    Overview of Article:

    "So. Gawker revealed today that Whitman's son Griffith Rutherford Harsh V, known to friends as Griff, was accused of rape in 2006 by a Princeton classmate. He claimed it was consensual sex after a night of drinking at undergraduate dining clubs. She awoke the next morning with bruises and a black eye -- and, she claimed, no memory of the night before. Harsh claimed to think she was sober enough to consent, and said the injuries came from an accidental fall. The Princeton disciplinary panel decided it didn't have enough evidence to discipline Harsh, and the woman never pressed criminal charges.

    The question is: Would a student whose mother hadn't donated $30 million to the school have had the complaint go away without further incident? And would the woman have pressed charges against a man who wasn't a billionaire? There's no way to know. But Griff was arrested that same year for breaking a woman's ankle in a bar (the charges were eventually dismissed), and Princeton, again, did not discipline him.

    The actions of adult children shouldn't be used to cast aspersions on the character of their parents, but the sight of a wealthy young man who keeps getting away with everything puts the lie to a gubernatorial campaign predicated on the idea that wealth and business acumen go hand in hand with American virtues like responsibility and hard work. I don't understand the mindset of the voter who thinks the richest man in town should also be mayor, because I've never found the rich to be any wiser or more virtuous than "career politicians." Meg Whitman isn't responsible for her adult son's actions, but his actions speak volumes about the world she lives in." ~ Alex Pareene (writes about politics for Salon)

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  2. Georgio N.
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    He also attacked a woman in a Palo Alto cafe.  But Whitman paid her the shut up money..and they settled out of court.

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  3. Ladi Da A.
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    Hmm, it appears that she and her offspring are all entitled, obnoxious, spawns of the devil! :(

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  5. Ladi Da A.
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    I think, you can't lead a state, if you can't even lead your children.

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  6. G L.
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    Meg Whitman verbally abused an eBay communications employee and shoved her out of her office....she paid $200,000 to get the employee to stay mum about the whole event

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  7. Georgio N.
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    His name is like something out of a bad eighties movie...

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  8. G L.
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    Geoffrey,
    most people named Griff are cool, it's Whitman's husband and son fucking it up for the rest of us

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  9. Laura J.
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    Should we take from this that Democrats are hoping Brown will do away with the court of law and return to the days of stakes and torches? Cool. There's a few Kennedy's we to catch up with.

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  10. Georgio N.
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    Which kennedys.

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  12. Laura J.
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    Geoffrey N. says: "Which kennedys."

    Doesn't William Kennedy Smith come to mind? Michael Kennedy was said to have been banging the 14 year old babysitter. But why stop there. Why not exhume the body of Uncle Teddy for the plethora of rape accusations tossed his way which never stuck?

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  14. Laura J.
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    DP - "Twitman's children are merely acting out the values imparted to them.  The rules don't apply to us.  Nor does even common decency."

    Your presumption of guilt is supposed show American values, or a respect to the rules which apply to us all?

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  20. Gil S.

    Ali has it right, her kid sounds like a jackass.  Could be bad parenting, but sometimes it just happens.

    I doubt Princeton's disciplinary panel would be swayed by donations.  The schools is worth a whole lot more than Meg Whitman - their endowment stands at about $15 billion - and $30 million is not a whole lot to them.

    Without more details the rape claim seems flimsy.  If she can't remember a thing it's all circumstantial.  Who's to say he wasn't as drunk as she was (in which case they're equally stupid), or that she didn't drink more and pass out after they had sex?  Whatever it was, something made her take it seriously.  Those details could be there, just not obvious.

    All this is not good, but I don't think it's close enough to who Whitman is today, and how she would act as governor, to make a whole lot of difference.  Lots of people have difficult families.

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  24. Laura J.
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    Due process? What's that. The court of public opinion runs on self entitlement, even when it targets those we see as self entitled.

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  26. Georgio N.
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    Laura J. says:

    Geoffrey N. says: "Which kennedys."

    Doesn't William Kennedy Smith come to mind? Michael Kennedy was said to have been banging the 14 year old babysitter. But why stop there. Why not exhume the body of Uncle Teddy for the plethora of rape accusations tossed his way which never stuck?
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    All were investigated under the laws of this country.  William Kennedy was found not guilty. The rest were cleared of charges.  How are the Kennedys, a major political force in the history of the United States in any way comparable to Meg Whitman an elitest former Hasbro/ ebay executive.

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  28. Laura J.
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    "why are you even trying to defend someone who is quite possibly a creep and a criminal?"

    I'm haven't commented on the case, so I'm not defending him. It's your leap from it "quite possibly" happening, to presumed guilt that makes you ill which worries me. Using this accusation turning into a political weapon to smear is pretty transparent.

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  31. Laura J.
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    "All were investigated under the laws of this country.  William Kennedy was found not guilty. The rest were cleared of charges.  How are the Kennedys, a major political force in the history of the United States in any way comparable to Meg Whitman an elitest former Hasbro/ ebay executive."

    Oh I'm sorry. You want to pick and chose who gets due process?
    Were you joking when you said you worked in the law profession?

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  34. Georgio N.
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    Laura do you have anything to say about this Whitman case?  The Kennedys are not relevant.

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  36. Laura J.
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    David "Humm Baby" P. says: "Additionally, the Kennedy family has a very long history of public service"

    Interesting. So you let a lineage of public service influence your reaction to criminal charges?
    How about a long lineage of whiskey bootlegging, and other underworld connections?

    I thought you had a problem with people who don't think rules apply to them?
    Due process doesn't take your lineage into account.  There is no town square, or Kings and Queens.

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  37. Georgio N.
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    giggler "EFG" E. says:

    Jerry Brown is a lifelong Democrat. Jerry Brown use to use the N word openly (like how he openly uses whore)  and was opposed to Civil Rights. It is a Historical Fact. Brown made Oakland worse and supported the genocide of Blacks (to complicated for most to understand, but if you read the works of the founder of Planned Parenthood, you'll understand her hatred towards Blacks and Jerry Brown supported her...anyways, it blows my mind how Blacks could support the party who still wants to enslave and kill Blacks).
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    Giggler, stick to discussing Sunnyvale politics.

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  40. Laura J.
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    Geoffrey N. says: "Laura do you have anything to say about this Whitman case?  

    What Whitman case?  

    That's a fraudulent statement.

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  43. Georgio N.
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    Wow, you and Sharron Angle have a lot in common...

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  47. Laura J.
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    yvonne, i'm discussing the rule of law, and public opinion. are you here just to throw accusations and smears around for self pleasure? is anything but tagging someone a rapist off topic for you?

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  48. Jhoe G.
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    Why is Laura talking about the kennedys? This isn't a liberals vs republicans issue and I don't think any Kennedy is running for the governor of ca right now

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  51. Laura J.
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    Geoffrey .... You claimed there was a Whitman case. Was anything filed?

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  55. Brad R.
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    so wait laura, according to your logic it's okay that whitman's son is a rapist, because ted kennedy was a rapist?

    damn pippy you got a seriously fucked up thought process

    what type of drugs and alcohol are you on laura? and where can i get some?  i think i want to up my level of crazy

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  56. Jhoe G.
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    Go create a Kennedy thread.

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  64. Gwynnie P.
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    thank you, Ladi Da, for posting this.

    Meg and her husband were very busy, and I imagine did not have time to be hands on parents, nurturing and guiding their children, instilling a sense of solid values and directing a moral compass. i am giving them the benefit of the doubt, and assuming that they had these core values themselves.

    It is unfortunate that, despite great wealth, they did not hire the appropriate people to raise their children to be upright citizens. There are surrogate parents all over the world doing a fine job of making kids feel loved and honored and helping them find their way in the world.

    A lot of assumptions here, I know, and I know that sometimes a bad seed just gets born. But I think these children probably suffered from a type of neglect that is hard to triumph over.

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  65. Laura J.
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    Joe "Pickles" G. says: "Why is Laura talking about the kennedys? This isn't a liberals vs republicans issue and I don't think any Kennedy is running for the governor of ca right now"

    Sure it is. They're using accusations about a candidates son to attack a Republican candidate.

    If you really just want to talk about sexual molestation charges and political entitlement, you're going to have to cross the Kennedy's door at some point. The confusion how it could possibly be on topic proves the interest here is on trashing Whitman and little else.

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  66. Georgio N.
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    Laura J. says:

    Geoffrey .... You claimed there was a Whitman case. Was anything filed?
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    "The Princeton disciplinary panel decided it didn't have enough evidence to discipline Harsh, and the woman never pressed criminal charges."

    Obviously she filed something with the University.

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  71. Laura J.
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    Good post Gwynnie. The bad seeds, and spoiled spawn aren't always a reflection of parenting, or that parent's ability to do business, govern, etc. The rich kids doing bad things paradigm means these accusations say little, and do little unless proven in a court of law.

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  73. Laura J.
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    Geoffrey - You're still supposing she filed something before it got dropped. Don't get careless in your rush to judgement and make personal determinations. That shows a disrespect for the law.

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  74. Georgio N.
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    Wow there's a new Whitman commercial..on right now.  She wants to tell her story...  This is her response to the echo commercial.  She moved here permanently in 1998.  Another lie.

    Fail.

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  77. Georgio N.
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    Laura, in order for something to get dropped, something has to be submitted.

    What the hell are you talking about...

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  85. Georgio N.
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    yvonne "release the bullshit" m. says:

    what's the "echo commercial?"
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    yelp.com/topic/oakland-t…

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  95. Laura J.
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    Geoffrey N. says: "Laura, in order for something to get dropped, something has to be submitted."

    Seriously unethical. All we know is the accusation was dropped. You're not privy to anything else, yet you keep using terminology to imply there was a case, it was filed, and so on. Facts you don't even have. Once again, that's unethical.

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  96. Georgio N.
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    giggler "EFG" E. says:

    Yvonne, it actually is a Liberal V Conservative thread.

    The liberals seem to think he is guilty and just cause not to vote for Whitman (as the OP stated). The last time I checked, parents of adults don't get arrested when their kids do something wrong.

    Also note how all the liberals are jumping on Whitman's kid...like a feeding frenzy.
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    I am not jumping on the kid and this is not a liberal vs. conservative issue, despite Laura's attempts to make it one.  The OPs story shows a pattern of behavior.  There was another documented case of this kid attacking another girl in a Palo Alto cafe and pushing her down.  She broke her ankle and it was settled out of court when Meg wrote a check.

    This only shows a pattern of elitest snobby behavior on the part of her son.  I think it's funny that you say this is a liberal vs. conservative issue when the stuff you're posting makes you look like a Symbionese Liberation Army Radical.

    "Down with the pigs...blah, blah, blah..  Brown's a racist.  He hates blacks and uses the n word all the time..blah, blah, blah,  he microships blacks, blah, blah, blah.."

    Which is all complete bull shit. I am embarrassed for you.

    Your revolution will definitely not be televised Giggler.

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  97. Jhoe G.
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    The op ain't really a liberal bleeding heart type. Giggled and Laura are in crazy land as always

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  98. Laura J.
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    Few of you would be my pick to lead a "Take Back the Night" rally.

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    Personal childhood experiences do nothing in this case to further the discourse. It's an emotional distraction. Anyone using my reply to that as fuel to further insult me clearly is here to further distract from the substance of the discussion. Mary didn't bother tying in her bio to anything of relevance, yet I never attacked her I simply stated it wasn't a meaningful reply.  It did not answer the question I posed twice, about wether it matters if an organization has divorced itself from the mission statements motivational logic, if they continue out the mission. So does it?

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    yvonne "rutherford jenkins howell IV" m. says: "laura, are you seriously THIS sociopathic?"

    I'm sticking to the topics, and tangents, and would prefer people didn't interject their sensitive personal business into political conversations.

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    Giggler was post number 666...

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    His hatred and contempt for white people is on display.  Nice post giggler.

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    Laura, 99% of Yelp Talk is an emotional distraction.  Some just manifest it more honestly than others.

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    vonne "rutherford jenkins howell IV" m. says: "laura, i really feel badly for you right now. you really don't see that your comments lack humanity?"

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    None of this absolves Sanger, or proves the point that Planned Parenthood has moved on from that era if they're still featuring her.

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    WTF does Maury have to do with this? Giggler is getting into some weird territory

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    Ummm Joe, he was sucked into a worm hole a long time ago......

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    True. That just went into a hyper worm hole

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    Ok, I'll stop..  I mean, I don't want my house burned down....

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    David P.: "Didn't someone once say "all politics is personal?"

    Maybe, but that person couldn't have been you.

    Sitting on the sidelines to give running evaluation of what others say isn't saying much yourself.

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  31. Mary B.

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    Personal childhood experiences do nothing in this case to further the discourse. (M: Laura wants to further discourse?)
    Mary didn't bother tying in her bio to anything of relevance, yet I never attacked her I simply stated it wasn't a meaningful reply. (M: define meaningful to me) It did not answer the question I posed twice, about wether it matters if an organization has divorced itself from the mission statements motivational logic, if they continue out the mission. So does it?

    I'm sticking to the topics, and tangents, and would prefer people didn't interject their sensitive personal business into political conversations.
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    1) Laura, Incorrect, you did not stick to the topic. *Planned Parenthood founder has nothing to do with this thread which is the tangent worth pursuing elsewhere by you. Good luck.

    Meg Whitman is responsible for her son's actions the moment that you fault planned parenthood for the political affiliation of it's founding member despite the fact the the organization makes no claim to celebrate her.

    2) Family, abuse, sexual misconduct etc. IS the sensitive topic of this thread. Perhaps you are too insensitive to debate these issues. Thread title: Meg Whitman Breeds Rapists? Category: Other Flag bad category.

    3) Thread summery: Whitman's son Griffith Rutherford Harsh V, known to friends as Griff, was accused of rape in 2006 by a Princeton classmate. He claimed it was consensual sex after a night of drinking at undergraduate dining clubs. She awoke the next morning with bruises and a black eye The question is: Would a student whose mother hadn't donated $30 million to the school have had the complaint go away without further incident? Griff was arrested that same year for breaking a woman's ankle in a bar (the charges were eventually dismissed)Should the actions of adult children shouldn't be used to cast aspersions on the character of their parents....

    Key words: bruises, black eye, rape, broken ankle, family. Ergo abuse, rape and family experiences are the topic of this thread. Please share you personal knowledge of these relevant subjects.

    I relate to the topic of this thread from firsthand experience.

    FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE:

    : obtained by, coming from, or being direct personal observation or experience
    * adj. & adv. (of information or experience) from the original source or personal experience; direct:
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    3. knowledge or practical wisdom gained from what one has observed, encountered, or undergone.

    Good children can come from bad parents and vice versa. Good things can come from bad places. IMO *Based on firsthand experience.

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    "I relate to the topic of this thread from firsthand experience. "

    You were responding to the Planned Parenthood and Sanger tangent, not relating it to Whitman's kid.

    If you believe the topic of this thread is "bruises, black eye, rape, broken ankle, family. Ergo abuse, rape and family experiences are the topic of this thread. " you did not relate any personal experiences to those acts...and I'd highly suggest you don't overshare such info in a political thread, but to each their own.

    You weren't sharing personal observations from firsthand experience about Planned Parenthood, or Meg Whitman, and her family.  Instead you compared made an argument of how Conservatism and Hitler were connected, that didn't belong in this thread, and compared yourself to a flower.  People felt bad for you and attacked me personally......

    ... you would have done yourself a favor just leave it there.

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    Wow, what a trainwreck of a thread.  I usually just lurk, but after reading this entire thread (yeah I know), I had to post. I can kind of relate to an aspect of what I think is Giggler's broader point that liberal policies of the past half century have actually conspired to hurt, not help, inner city minorities, especially African Americans (at least I think that's his point).

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    It's really too bad. There's a decent point in there. Unfortunately the guy trying to deliver it is a jerk who plays fast and loose with the truth.

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  42. Mary B.

    Oy veh. Laura, You like to fight!

    A politician's son is said to have raped and beaten women. Broken ankles, black eyes and rape are attributed Meg Whitman's son.. If you can not observe how rape and abuse is relevant on a thread title with the word RAPE in it, no one can help you see anything more obvious. God save you.

    You said: You weren't sharing personal observations from firsthand experience about Planned Parenthood, or Meg Whitman, and her family. Instead you compared made an argument of how Conservatism and Hitler were connected, that didn't belong in this thread, and compared yourself to a flower.

    You are Incorrect on every single one of your statements. My argument regarding firsthand experience relevant this thread is this:

    These things occur: A flower grows from dirt- invention is born in time of war- I came from a bad environment where good things came as a result of abuse. If planned parenthood came from a bad person? -Good things come from bad places.

    Planned parenthood has as much to do with this thread as Hitler (a conservative) and that is nothing. Ergo my point.

    Laura, I suggest again that you refrain from posting on threads that discuss rape, domestic violence etc. as you are clearly too insensitive to distinguish how personal and sensitive those subjects are.

    If you do not deem the subject of rape and battery "sensitive issues"? If you only see the issue of rape and battery as politics? They have a word for that. A person void empathy..... What's the word?

    In regards to my "over sharing" You asked how I could compare my orphanage to a pot of dirt. I answered. Perhaps you should not pose questions that you might not like the answers of.

    As to your assumption of whether or not I have firsthand experience with planned parenthood, #1 it's none of your business and #2, I will save it for a relevant thread, NOT this one.

    Why don't you stop derailing this thread off the tracks or are you paid by the hour to do so?

    Giggler, Lies are funny. I like to laugh :-) I want to hear what you have to say about the subjects that don't belong on this thread. Why not start a thread about the subjects that interest you, Piedmont and P. Parenthood. Links, links, links dude. I would like to learn about things from your perspective. Thanks.

    Me? I'll stick to threads on he subjects that I know, especially by firsthand experience, *like this one.

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    mary "almost deleted" b. says:

    I relate to the topic of this thread from firsthand experience.

    FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE

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    you're claiming that Griff sexually abused _you_?

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    giggler "EFG" E. says:

    Kim...that is my point. Thank you for agreeing with me.

    Maybe you'd like to correct then.

    Who answers all the suicide calls for Piedmont?

    Who answers all the Domestic violence calls for Piedmont?

    Who investigates the drug labs from the "bored kids with nothing better to do"?

    The better question is, who pays for such services?
    ++++++++++

    Incredible.  You just don't quit with the made up nonsense, do you?  I work in Social Services in the general area and I am very familiar with the local demographics.  I'd be surprised if there is more than 1 or 2 suicides a year in Piedmont and maybe 10 or 20 domestic violence reports. And drug labs?  Please.  In any case, the answer to each and every one of those questions is....The Piedmont taxpayer funded Piedmont Police Department.  Here's a link to the Piedmont Police Page:  ci.piedmont.ca.us/police…  There are 20 cops, and five dispatchers, which is more than enough to handle a sleepy town of 10,000 people and 2,000 homes no more than 2 miles wide from end to end.

    Piedmont is entirely self-sustaining, and in fact, the wealth from Piedmont is spread all around Oakland.   Many many businesses in surrounding areas of Oakland, such as Montclair, Glenview, Lake Shore and Grand depend on Piedmont residents to spend money at their businesses.  

    If you want to keep repeating the same crap, why don't you actually post real links and references like I just did, and Mike and others did earlier?  Otherwise, please just stop making shit up.

    And why cant you be man enough to admit how completely wrong you were in the earlier posts where you were PROVED wrong?  Until then, you are just another asshole talking shit on the internet and are best ignored.

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    Being "right" is a worthless thing to crave IMO David. In politics, in life and everywhere else. If I am "right" in my own mind and I have no friends to share it with? I'm lost. Doing the right thing is more valuable than being right anyway. This guy says it better than I can comprehend:

    I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant.
    Martin Luther King

    Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.
    Martin Luther King

    A lie cannot live.
    Martin Luther King

    Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it.
    Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it.
    Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.
    Martin Luther King

    Martin Luther King Jr. ... "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy to a friend

    On that note, *hugs* Laura

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    "If you can not observe how rape and abuse is relevant on a thread title with the word RAPE in it, no one can help you see anything more obvious. "

    Your post about your personal experiences addressing the Planned Parenthood issue said nothing about rape.
    You chose to reply to the tangent so I fail to see what problem you have discussing it.

    I'm very aware how sensitive this issue is to you, which is why I continue to advise you to stop interjecting your own personal baggage into a political topic. If this conversation is too triggering for you - why did you pick this one to post in?

    I'm not going to hold back my opinion on the political issues because of your garbage poetics and rough life. Keep it to yourself. As for Planned Parenthood, you have failed to defend them on why they continue to promote Sanger.  Wait, let me speak in Mary B. talk. It's the same pot terminating rainbows, only with different sanitized dirt, and weed wacker.

    Speaking of sensitivity? You keep bringing up Hitler gratuitously, which isn't exactly sensitive or relevant of you.

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    Laura said: Your post about your personal experiences addressing the Planned Parenthood issue said nothing about rape. You chose to reply to the tangent so I fail to see what problem you have discussing it.

    No ONE should reply to your post about Planned parenthood because it has as much to do with this thread as Hitler which is why I mention it. To prove the point that neither is relevant.

    Had you said this to anyone else I would be offended. Telling anyone not to post their personal stories as relevant to abuse is gross. You continue to gross me out. Say it again. Mention Planned parenthood one more time. Prove yourself incapable of staying with the topic of this thread.

    Since this thread is about rape, abuse and family members in politics, I would suggest that you stay on topic and share your personal experience with rape and abuse. Or are you incapable of contributing to the ACTUAL thread content?

    Which threads should I post in and what should I post if not the subjects most relevant to my life experience? I might urge you to admire the terms of service at yelp inc. and stop posting off topic material Ala Planned parenthood etc. Sadly, you will not.

    You neither hurt nor offended me. I feel same disgust and disdain for you that I feel for all abusive people, for any sociopath void empathy; pity.

    You might be the most fantastic liberal among us. Paid to to post vain, vague, aggressive, ambiguous, rude, senseless, unconscionable garbage. Fighting instead of talking. Thus shaming the entire affiliation you side. Truthfully it is really the only thing that makes sense.

    You can come clean with us now. You are a paid democrat! Rallying more democrats by making yourself and any conservative accusations look pathetic.

    It's very rude of you. The conservative effort deserves so much better. There really are a great number of things that I admire and have adopted from the conservatives. Sadly, they must claim Hitler and you as well.

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    Giggler, this is cool stuff about Piedmont. Start a thread. Do you have anything to say about Whitman's son and his history with battery and rape? Maybe there is something cool out there about how the apple can fall far from the tree etc. Laura is dropping the ball on you.

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    Hi David!

    Alright team conservative. I am going to help you guys out and find some data and links regarding how the apple CAN fall far from the tree in Meg Whitman's defense. Someone has to have your back!

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    Hi Giggler, I think the Piedmont thing should get a thread. In Whitman's defense:

    Good things can come from bad places: What kinds of things were invented for war but now help people in their day to day lives?

    Answer Technology and War
    Computers, jets, radio... It isn't just what was invented for war and now has consumer applications, the answer could also encompass what was improved upon as a result of war. The short answer to that is Industry as a whole. Barbed wire, tinned food and radios were all invented during world war one. In world war 2 penicillin was realized to be very useful, the Jerrycan was invented and we gained the ability to mass produce synthetic rubber. Also, the Germans developed alternative fuels like Hydrogen Peroxide.

    Hitler invented the concept of the blow-up doll. hubpages.com/hub/5_Bizar…

    I'm looking for scholarly articles to prove that rapists can come from healthy normal families. to be honest, most of what I've read so far is to the contrary. I offer myself as an apple that fell far from the tree for the conservative argument.

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    Laura J? Siding with entitled rapists and drawing unrelated parallels to set up a strawman? Now I've seen everything.

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    klik! run quick before they paint you with the crazy brush!

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    "No ONE should reply to your post about Planned parenthood because ....."

    Yet you did, and you are.

    "Since this thread is about rape, abuse and family members in politics, I would suggest that you stay on topic and share your personal experience with rape and abuse"

    Uh. Okay. You haven't shared any personal experiences about rape and abuse either. And why the f*** would you? Do you think you did?

    "Sadly, they must claim Hitler and you as well."

    How lame.

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    klik "Tu Cheez Badi Hai Mast Mast" w. says: "Laura J? Siding with entitled rapists and drawing unrelated parallels to set up a strawman?"

    What rapist, Klik?  Due process. Remember due process? It's not taking sides to suggest smearing a young man during a political season might have other motives, and we don't know the full story.

    Plus I hear potsoil isn't just for snails anymore, and just because you're an evil pot, you won't grow a rapist, or wait, maybe that's if you're an evil rapist you ...oh nevermind. F*** MARGARET SANGER AND ALL HER FRIENDS.

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    She says not to include any personal info in these discussions then trashes soneones personal life. Wow.

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    18 minutes ago Laura J. says:

    "No ONE should reply to your post about Planned parenthood because ....."

    Yet you did, and you are.

    "Since this thread is about rape, abuse and family members in politics, I would suggest that you stay on topic and share your personal experience with rape and abuse"

    Uh. Okay. You haven't shared any personal experiences about rape and abuse either. And why the f*** would you? Do you think you did?
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    It's not hard work to make you a liar babe. A few more of your incorrect facts.

    1) I commented on your planned parenthood reference only to prove it's irrelevance. ERGO NO one should comment on your planned parenthood reference. Hitler and planned parenthood are equally irrelevant and therein lies the point.

    2) I shared my personal experience of abuse on this thread. I was raised in a home for abused children. What part of that did you miss? Why is it relevant? Because it did not define me and if Meg Whitman's son rapes and brutalizes women, it should not define her as a mother.

    ERGO my personal experience as it relates to this thread.

    Do the left a favor Laura. Stay nasty baby. I love you just the way you are.

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    Joe "Pickles" G. says: "She says not to include any personal info in these discussions then trashes soneones personal life. Wow."

    How did I trash her personal life exactly?

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    "1) I commented on your planned parenthood reference only to prove it's irrelevance."

    Then I guess you didn't also say: "If planned parenthood came from a bad person? -Good things come from bad places." ????
    That was you trying to prove how relevant your potted plant poetics were.

    "Because it did not define me and if Meg Whitman's son rapes and brutalizes women, it should not define her as a mother."

    Are you forming a defense for your orphanage now? How confused are you?

    Is Meg the potted plan, or the flower? Isn't her son the flower? If Sanger and your orphanage are a pot then... see how this breaks down? And if this is upsetting you, then you shouldn't have brought it up in discussion. People discuss things here.

    Meanwhile, I'm not making a personal comment about you, or your childhood, just YOUR POST. Your logic. I'm not calling you names, and if anything, I'm doing more to look out for you than your supposed friends egging you on by again and again suggesting this wasn't a good way to bring up your personal business.

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    Oh the minutiae....

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  83. Mary B.

    1) Are you forming a defense for your orphanage now? How confused are you? Answer: I don't NEED a defense for my orphanage *you are confused Laura. Should I apologize to you for my orphanage? Rationalize it, I'll do it.

    2)Good things come from bad places." ??? That was you trying to prove how relevant your potted plant poetics were. Answer: A plant comes from dirt. Poetics to you?

    Plants use the soil for anchorage
    The soil particles act to trap water between them allowing the plant to draw water from it
    Depending on the coarseness of the soil particles the soil is able to contain air pockets in it allowing for the uptake of Oxygen into the plant The nature of the soil allows nutrients and minerals to be attached to them, enabling the plant access to a ready store of nutrient "food" To help them grow the minerals and nutrients help it grow instead of helping it die.

    3) Is Meg the potted plan, or the flower? Isn't her son the flower? If Sanger and your orphanage are a pot then... see how this breaks down? And if this is upsetting you, then you shouldn't have brought it up in discussion. People discuss things here.

    Answer: Anything good that comes from something negative is "like" a flower that grows from dirt. You dislike analogies. They are too poetic for your taste. I personally love analogies. Poetic: Out of the dirt we find the roses -Mary Born A song of mine based of life experience relevant this thread. Check it out: myspace.com/maryborn *Listen to Out of the dirt.

    4) "People" do discuss things here at yelp. I am a lucky participate in many conversations well worth my time. You do not "discuss" anything IMO. You tirade with a single objective in the most aggressive and nonconstructive manner possible. Here is a tip from me to you babe since you are filled with tips for me:

    Crazy Joe, a conservative, right-wing, republican, starts threads, LOVES Bush, knows what he talking about and cites MANY references. He is so good at source hunting that it hurts someone like me who can often find no comeback. We are great friends. *Unlike you, he doesn't take the cheap shot, he stays to the topic and cites his sources. However extreme his opinions differ from mine, ever the classy guy, he would never stoop so low as to belittle my or anyone else's opinions especially on a sensitive subject like abuse or rape.

    Here is a personal experience argument that would be relevant to this thread were you to make it. Were your parents wonderful people? And yet you turned out as you did? Points for Whitman is that is the case.

    I have never like watching you fight with so many people. I am not hurt by you, I feel sorry for you. I feel for the conservative side. Maybe you feel outnumbered? Maybe you lash out? Whatever life experience has made you the way you are, it would benefit you to allow compassion your arguments in future. Lest you "look" bad. If there is a beating heart in you Laura. Show it to us someday.

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    Uh yeah okay, let's try and leave it there Mary. That last post of your was too all over the place, and the replies are less and less ...um, let's say grounded, and without really addressing anything I see as worth replying to. I'm not here to discuss your life, or your music, or your evaluations of  Yelpers.

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    gross!

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    Gross

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    800!!

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