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Auto Repair,
Oil Change Stations
BEWARE the hidden $70 examination fee...
Yep. I'm mad. And after a fee hours of cooling down and my wife pleading with me not to write this... but Customer Service... zero stars for Serge's Staff today... and honestly I was surprised...
The work product at Serge's has always been great. I had a full brake job done on my Escape a few months back. My in-laws have been taking their cars to Serge's for years without complaint. And I was happy with my brake job, even when I had to return it a day or two later because of a faulty master cylinder, The work was done well... and I planned on bring the car back to get new shocks, that I couldn't afford at the time the brakes where done...
So when the check engine light came on yesterday and the car was shuddering my first thought was to take it to Serge's. I called, said I would need to drop it off as I wasn't going to make it there by 6pm (when they close). I was told not a problem, drop it off with the key through the front door. I did... I left my office and cell number... so they could call on Friday and let me know what needed to be done...
They called mid-day told me I had an electrical problem that required a new ignition coil to be replaced and recommended a full tune up. I said, "Okay how much?" I was told "$476". I said, "Wow... Okay, well fix it." thinking to myself after over $700 on a full brake job and now $476, this car better last me another year or so..." I suspect I'll need a new car soon... My 2001 Escape has over 137k miles on it...
But when I was called today that my car was ready, I didn't expect to have to pay $541, I expected to pay the $476... and I stated as much... He checked the numbers... adding everything up on the list... I pointed out on the work order where it said I was quoted $476...
He said... "Oh! Yes. See I'm Right!!! You authorized a $70 estimate fee when you dropped the car off. So the price is right... I'm not wrong. The price is right!" With a gleeful grin...
To which I said, "I didn't authorize a $70 fee..."
He repeated that when the car was dropped off, I authorized a $70 fee... but I didn't... (trying to keep my anger in check, I said, "Fine." gave him my card, and he happily ran my card, with the thought of sugar plums dancing in his head. Or at least a nice Christmas bonus for himself...
Again, I'm happy with the work, but I am down right angry that I wasn't told of the $70 estimate fee... and in most places I've gone to in the past, if I have the work done in their shop after they've diagnosed the problem, that fee is waived and the price they quote me is the price I pay... I know they likely pad the fee back into the quote... but when I get a quote that X dollars is what it's going to take to fix my car, that is what I expect to pay... not another $70 on top of my quote...
So take your car here... they do good work.... but make sure when do, you understand that you need to add the cost of the diagnoses into the actual cost of repair...
As for me... the shocks still need to be replaced, but Serge, I am sorry, you won't get the work.... I'll find another shop. I've had good work done with Joe at Demergian Auto Service in Pasadena on Washington Blvd; and there is a Starbucks across the street... I could drop it off, work remotely... yep... now I'm just angry and sad...
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7 Useful, 2 Funny, and 2 Cool
Los Angeles, CA
Yelping SinceSeptember 2010
Things I Lovesteak, potatoes, fries, martinis, curry and food
Find Me InLos Angeles Financial District
My HometownPasadena
I appreciated the letter you sent, until the last sentence where you tell me "As for you taking your car elsewhere for further repairs, instead of coming to my shop, the feeling is mutual. I rather not work for you or other customers like you." But I'm certain you were just as angry as I was when I left your shop. And I hope we can bring this to an equitable conclusion.
As for the $65.16 check that you included. I appreciate the jester, but I will be returning it; I understand overhead and tax burdens in running a business in today's market. If you're running margins as lean as you stated in your letter, I surely do not wish you harm. And as I have thought about this, the money was never the issue.
I understand the eagerness to engage with your customers in an open environment like Yelp. In fact, if you'll go back and read my comments, I stated your shop does great functional work. And maybe I could have stated it better, but I was mad; just as I'm certain you were mad when you read my comments.
If we can both take a step back, and I'm very willing to do so, we should consider why the conflict.
Barkev's handling of my complaint was simply poor customer service. He, in essence and by his firm persistence, told me I was a liar. No one likes to be told they are not telling the truth; especially when they know they ARE telling the truth. He pushed with vigor that I had agreed to a fee that I had not.
I'm certain, that as a business professional, there have been many times you needed to question a cost. The cost of supplies, the cost on leased or purchased equipment, the cost on calibration, etc. And I'm certain you've had moments where you were not happy about the outcome. That is what happened with me. I questioned a fee; and I was not happy with the results.
If at the front end I was told me there would be a cost to examine the car; I would have agreed. Further, when we engaged again on the cost of repair, if someone had included the examination cost in my final / total cost I would not have questioned it and thus I would not have had the negative interaction with Barkev. And if Barkev had simply said, "I'm sorry, this is what I have in front of me; but I'll leave a note for the boss and have Serge call you." I would have paid and waited for your call. We could have resolved this on the phone and not in public.
From my perspective, maybe I should have engaged you directly; but your push to have customers engage you online was compelling, so I took it to Yelp.
As for dealing with customers on the Internet I am certain you did not expect to have to handle negative and detailed comments, such as mine.
It's going to take some getting used to; but the Internet is a far more honest place than you may realize. We both sit behind computers and type and say things we would not likely say to someone face to face. It is the reality of the Internet. And on top of it all, we do this in a public space. Everyone can see our exchange. The fact that you took the time to draft a letter, cut a check and mail it to me instead of calling me on the phone is doing the same thing. We are both protected by distance and a certain, albeit false, feeling of anonymity.
But I'm certain, due to this exchange, you and your staff will remind people of the examination fee. Your staff, in explaining the estimate of the repairs will include the examination fee as part of a grand total. So in the end, our exchange here, will improve your interaction with other customers and avoid making a customer unhappy. There is no better way to improve one's service than to be willing to take on conflict. It's how we manage conflict that can make us better or worse.
I hope you will continue to engage your customers in an open environment like Yelp. And, I hope you will take their issues seriously; with the thought of "How could we have avoided that complaint / concern?" Instead of getting angry and reacting negatively.
It's not the customers fault if they do complain; there will always be a few complaints (both justified and unjustified). What will make your business even more successful is how you manage those complaints.
If you look at the complaints as an opportunity to improve and win customers back, you'll become even more successful. And your customers will reflect that in their comments on the Internet.
If you see the complaints online and they make you angry and you lash out in the same fashion your customer just did; your business and your staff will not improve and complaints will continue.
Again, I appreciate that this is new territory for you. I applaud your willingness to engage your customers in a public forum. I do appreciate the work and skill your team put into repairing my old worn down Escape. I hope you can appreciate the time and effort I've spent explaining where we both could make improvements. The best of luck to you and your team.