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Yelp  

Categories: Local Flavor, Mass Media
Neighborhood: SOMA

1.0 star rating
Update - 6/16/2011
A while ago, I read that a number of businessmen said that they'd like to be able to append their own remarks to any review done of their businesses. "I don't doubt that you would", I thought to myself, mildly amused by the nerve of such a request, that they would ask Yelp to restructure its system in such a way as to ensure that the business owner would always have the last word, whenever a business was reviewed. The request was unreasonable. The request was granted. See for yourself: they asked for it, and they got it.

https://biz.yelp.com/s...

If one refers to our pages on Yelp as "microblogs", then what Yelp has done is to put a comment section on our microblogs that we can't moderate. That practice is unheard of, among blogging hosts, and with good reason.

I just got done flagging a comment from a restaurant owner, and suspect that I was wasting my time by doing so. The owner had personally attacked the user - I guess that's OK if the one attacked is a Yelp user - having gone on to claim to remember an anonymous reviewer who had posted neither her full name nor her photo, as he told of her terrible conduct in his restaurant. In other words, he would seem to have made up his own facts. "Write a bad review of my place, and I'll get you" would seem to be the owner's credo. As I explained in my message to the staff:

"If this comment appeared on one of my blogs, in all of its obnoxious glory, I'd have hit the delete button in seconds. It wouldn't even be a question. The commenter's behavior is outrageous and probably legally actionable. One can not publish speculation as fact, especially speculation that would have an injurious impact on somebody else's reputation if taken as fact. I would have to ask one of a number of lawyers I've known for a while to be sure, but based on past conversations, I rather suspect that because the reviewer can't remove the comment, herself, and Yelp has facilitated what amounts to libel, that Yelp has, itself, been exposed to liability.

Read no threat into this message, merely a friendly warning about a bad situation you've walked into, and an expression of deep concern, as a user, about a concession that Mr. Stoppelman should never have made. At some point in the near future, if this policy does not change, I'm going to pull every review of mine that is not positively complimentary off of Yelp, because I really don't need to be defamed by somebody who didn't like seeing his business getting panned, the way that this reviewer was.  I suspect that you'll find that I'm far from being alone in this.

This will leave you with nothing but my four and five star reviews, and probably not even the four star reviews. Those have some value, I suppose. Good experiences are worth sharing. However, a Yelp in which nobody posts a bad review because nobody needs the harassment that will follow, is a Yelp that in the long run, won't have any value. The honest, bad reviews are what keep the shill written, barely disguised ad copy from places that should be panned from creating the illusion of a favorable reception among the bulk of the reviewers. Visitors will find, more and more, that Yelp pointed them toward one bad experience after another, with great and visible enthusiasm. In the end, Yelp will simply stop being visited, because it will no longer be a credible source of recommendations, and your company will fold.

Is that an acceptable price to pay, just so a few mouthy businessmen with an unreasonable demand won't tell people that you're mean? Remember, you're being paid to deal with their garbage. We aren't."

I guess that money talks. The businessmen have it and we don't, so as right as we are and as wrong as they are, the businessmen will get what they want at Yelp? As long as they cough up a little cash? I don't know, but I'm finding the allegations of that a little easier to believe, because they explain so much. I don't want that to be true, but I don't seem to be getting a choice in the matter.

If I seemed a little wishy washy and noncommital in my previous review, take this as an example of why I might be that way. One never does know who will let one down next, when dealing with strangers who are 2000 miles away, so prepare to be surprised.

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  • 3.0 star rating
    4/12/2009

    I've read a little about the alleged extortion of restaurants by Yelp, and the alleged related censorship, and so (currently) rate this site with a noncommital three stars.

    It's my way of admitting that I don't know who's telling the truth, and seriously wonder who's the extortionist in this exchange. Yes, a lot of people have written in to say "I was censored" ... but ... ever been to San Francisco? Ever notice just how many tourist traps that city has, as does Chicago, for that matter? Places that used to make a good income on the philosophy of "take the money and run" back in the good old days when consumers had trouble hearing from each other, except through the filter of an eminently corruptable media - good for them, not so great for us.

    How many shills do you suppose those places could hire? How much of a vested interest might they have in seeing a place like this go down? So the truth is, it's difficult for any of us to know what is going on.

    But, if you're concerned - and maybe, as a user you should be - one does have a simple, relatively easy alternative to hoping for the best. Create a blog on which you mirror your Yelp reviews, so that is you are censored unjustly, the fact will (one hopes) be witnessed by the lurkers, who will talk. Whatever the truth regarding these accusations might be, let's let it have a chance to be seen.

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701 1st Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(408) 349-3301

Yahoo! Local  

Category: Mass Media

1.0 star rating
Update - 10/11/2010
Virgile C writes:

"I just looked at my own Yahoo! 360 profile and yes, the latest review displayed there is from 2006.  But I think the problem is related to Yahoo! 360's transition to a new profile product rather than Yahoo! Local.  Here is an explanation on 360's corporate blog:

http://blog.360.yahoo....

So, I say hang in there while Yahoo! gets their integration issues sorted out."

If you had a little trouble following that link, that is to be understood, because a short while after encouraging its users to spend more time working on their Yahoo 360 sites

http://web.archive.org...

Yahoo's staff announced the closing of Yahoo 360, telling people that it would be worth their while to stick around, because the closing would just be a "transition".

http://web.archive.org...

The Yahoo 360 service ceased to exist in 2009. One might notice that my complaint about the removal of the links back to our blogs was posted in 2007, meaning that Virgile would have me "hang in there", and wait two years for the return of basic functionality. I would have been waiting in vain.

In the three years that have since passed, not only has Yahoo not returned the user's ability to have his Yahoo local profile link to his 360 page (whatever they decided to replace the 360 page with) , but they've taken the names off of a good many reviews. Take a look at the reviews of the Hotel Monteleone, and note how many reviews are now written by "a Yahoo local user",as mine was up until my last edit. Having been deprived of the traffic that my review would have brought, I find that I was then denied the credit for my own work, as well.

http://local.yahoo.com...

not to mention control over it distribution. While I've cut the copy for my last remaining review on Yahoo local, replacing it with a comment about my departure from Yahoo local and a mention of this review page on Yelp, my full review remains posted on the Hotel Monteleone page on Yahoo travel in its original form, whether I like it or not, where it is to remain forever, apparently

http://travel.yahoo.co...

You might notice that "Virgile C." vanishes a bit before the demise of Yahoo 360, posting only five times during a three day period, posting the review you see on this page, and then never being seen, again. No, nothing suspicious about that, at all. One could have tried to read the many comments of many unhappy users of the new Yahoo profile system that succeeded the 360 service on the company blog, had the company not chosen to render both the links to comments and individual blog posts inoperative, as they have we remained for some time

http://www.yprofileblo.../

but I remember them including complaints of personal information being released. One can see Melissa Daniels of Yahoo suggesting that breaching the privacy of their users was OK, right on the company blog, because their privacy had been breached from the beginning (at the new location), but adding that out of the goodness of their hearts and to get their users off their backs (and the threat of class action lawsuits ended, I might add), that Yahoo was going to issue a "patch" that would make it possible for users to not give out their personal information to just anybody who wanted it.

Among the complaints about the new service that I still recall (some years after Yahoo found it convenient to block access to the comments), aside from the obvious one that Yahoo had tried to pretend that a new service at a new location was really the old service and that all of the links to posts on the old service had been broken by this so-called "transition", included the failure of the new service to import many of the posts on the old service, lack of comment moderation as an option, the absence of customization options that had been present on Yahoo 360 (in fact, one could not customize look and feel at all), ... etc. In every way, the "new and improved" universal profile was a downgrade in all but name, the feeding of a Yahoo executive's ego at the expense, in the short term, of his users, and in the long run, at that of his company and its stockholders as more users abandoned a service whose privacy settings were unreliable and whose functionality was remininscent of something out of the mid 1990s.

Such were the rewards won by those who "held tight".

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  • 1.0 star rating
    9/1/2007 First to Review

    I would recommend not posting any reviews with this specific service; please note that this is not a generic criticism of Yahoo, but one directed toward Yahoo! Local, specifically. My parting note, which replaced each of my reviews there, gave a few reasons why:

    "I couldn't help but notice that weeks later, this review had not found its way onto my blog, and that Yahoo's support staff had refused to respond to my problem report. I also noticed that the one time link from my Yahoo local profile to my Yahoo 360 profile (and blog) had been cut without reason or notification.

    The gain in visibility for our blogs and websites is the only form of payment we ever saw, and now we don't even get that? That isn't even Yahoo being cheap, as the site and blog being linked back to were on Yahoo's server, meaning visitors wandering back were going to where Yahoo's ads were on display. This is just Yahoo being bizarre; there is such a thing as flipping the user the bird just for the sake of flipping him the bird. OK, Fine. If they want to be that way about it, I'll just relocate my reviews to a site run by another provider that has shown more respect to those posting reviews, and the yahoo local team can go flip the bird to somebody else."

    That other provider, of course, being Yelp, where so far, the team and the people have been pretty cool. There is a Yelp review page for Yahoo itself located here:

    http://www.yelp.c...

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701 1st Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(408) 349-3300

Yahoo!  

Category: Mass Media

1.0 star rating
Update - 5/10/2009
Let's make that one star, now that they're going to shut down Geocities, without having bothered to send any of its users any e-mail about this. Most of us, with sites on that service, found out by reading stories like this

http://www.eweek.com/c...

The fun part is that Geocities, pre-Yahoo, had an FTP server! That would been very helpful, right now, a much easier way of recovering content than unrendering individual pages and cutting and pasting the code to files on one's own disk. Yahoo has seen no need to reactivate that server, or even to construct any software to use for transferring Geocities pages to their paid server, telling users to cut and paste, and then FTP their newly constructed pages up to their new location. On a server belonging to the same (expletitive deleted) company.

More than a little evil, and one reason why I chose to move my material to the server of a completely different company. Quoting the article cited above as it quotes the new CEO of Yahoo, Carol Bartz

"The best candidate for focused investment and renewed innovation are those products that generate the majority of our traffic and corresponding economic value. These include the homepage, sports, news, finance, entertainment, mail search and mobile."

One might note the absence of the remaining sites hosting user generated content in that list, such as Flickr. Yahoo's new future is going to consist primarily of taking stories off of the AP feed (see first five products in Bartz' list). Which means that your content really isn't safe on Yahoo, which will soon be offering you little that you weren't getting out of your local newspaper, anyway, raising the question of why one would bother to visit their site, at all.

Yahoo's contribution to its users, most of whom are on services it had nothing to do with creating - eg. Flickr, Yahoogroups (formerly eGroups), Geocities, Jumpcut, Upcoming, Delicious - has primarily consisted of taking over companies that were functioning decently enough before they arrived and slowly running them into the ground or shutting them down, altogether. It didn't even invent its own search engine. Altavista did that, the biggest change after the Yahoo takeover being that link searches no longer worked properly.

I hesitated to give Yahoo an overall rating before, saying that it was more like a cluster of many little companies than like one large one, making generalizations difficult. Perhaps, but a pattern does seem to emerge after a while. The web would be a far better place today, had this company never been.

Did anybody at Yahoo ever stopped to think that maybe one of the reasons why they're having more and more trouble getting new users to subscribe to the services they offer is because so many of us, with good historical reasons, having come to the conclusion that posting content to Yahoo is a lot like throwing it out?

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  • 2.0 star rating
    9/1/2007

    This rating is subject to being downgraded.

    Why did I give them three stars? Because Yahoo isn't really one service, it's a collection of services, each run by its own team, and I felt funny about giving a collective score to such a balkanized outfit. Three stars is my way of shrugging and going "oh, I don't know" in this case.

    Their search engine (their core business) still looks decent, for all of the sniping I've seen directed against it in a variety of locations. Geocities does have the virtue of reliability, though the bandwidth allotment is pathetic, so much so that I've found myself forced to host images with offsite services, and you can guess what a joy that has been.

    One disturbing pattern that does seem to be consistent among the teams, though, is that Yahoo seems to lean toward being more supportive of the trolls who write in to make trouble, than of the actual users who provide Yahoo with the content that makes its ad revenue possible. Having been around for a few years, I haven't found the censorship at Yahoo to be as unrelenting as some have portrayed it as being, but it is there, and it can be a headache. More on the boards, though, than elsewhere, I think.

    Yes, the Yahoo teams do tend to be nonresponsive. Reports of the so-called "peanut butter manifesto" have triggered a low scale panic among Yahoo 360 users, which I alluded to in a blog post

    http://tinyurl.co...

    and like I said there, a simple "so guys, is this true, are you shutting down" did not get an answer when I asked, or when anybody else asked either, apparently. This seems to be the pattern with them - reliable software (mostly), some degree of flexibility, but no sign that they respect or care about their users in the least. The only good  news about Yahoo support is that they're hardly ever needed.

    Addendum, Jan 2008: After refusing (for months) to answer letters send  by users concerned about rumors circulating about Yahoo 360's closing, Yahoo finally confirmed those rumors on Oct.16, giving notice that the service would be closing down in "early 2008", but offering nebulous promises about an unspecified new service that the old 360 blogs could be relocated to, admitting that they, themselves, knew little about it (their own new service) at the time of the announcement. One way or another, those trusting enough to have adopted a "wait and see" approach may now look forward to being rewarded for their loyalty by watching their suddenly relocated blogs drop like rocks in the search engine listings. That's such an obnoxious trick to play on my fellow users, however imprudently unprepared and unwilling to pay attention to the signs (such as Yahoo's refusal to address a panic inducing rumor) as some of them may have been, that I think Yahoo deserves to lose a star for that.

    This is now the second highly popular service (that I know of) to be abandoned by the cutting edge professionals in Sunnyvale after they got tired of playing with it. Yahoo Photos is gone, deleted in response to Yahoo's acquisition of Flickr, with reports of user photos lost during the "merger" of their accounts at the old service with their new accounts at Flickr. One might well wonder about the future of Yahoo Video, now that Jumpcut has been acquired.

    Yahoo has been reviewed on Stumbleupon:

    http://www.stumbl...

    and I've started a Yelp review page for Yahoo Local

    http://www.yelp.c...

    We'll see whether that matters, giving the pending hostile takeover bid by Microsoft. Yahoo has also been reviewed on this other page at Yelp:

    http://www.yelp.c...

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111 S Michigan Ave
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 443-3600

The Art Institute of Chicago  

Category: Colleges & Universities
Neighborhood: The Loop

3.0 star rating
Update - 5/10/2009
The Institute no longer has a free day. It has raised its ticket prices, during an economic downturn, no less, when many have found themselves without work or the hope of finding it in the near future, if ever. In doing so, it denied the newly destitute one of the few simple pleasures they had left. One can get in for free for two hours, maybe - not worth the trip, for that. One would spend more time travelling than one would spend in the museum.

I deducted a star for the lack of class shown by the timing of that change. In hard times, the Institute's word to the outsourced professional and middle classes has been "we don't care. go away." Something I hope we'll all remember, someday, should circumstances change and they, once again, come to us all with palms outstretched, asking for our financial help, as they had so many times in the past, before opportunity became an ever scarcer privilege, almost entirely reserved to the very young and well connected when it was to be had, at all.

As we have seen, our charity would be better invested elsewhere. Art is worth caring about. This museum isn't.

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  • 4.0 star rating
    10/5/2007

    I would have to agree with Jennifer K. I've been to the Vatican; the Art Institute does not impress on that level. To say that an institution is "world class" is a bold claim to make, and usually a sign that one has seen nothing of the world, which is still a big place. The Art Institute pales even by comparison to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, which has done inventive things with its broader and larger collection, often placing objects in context that enriches the visitor's experience of encountering them. Compare seeing antique silver as part of a table setting vs. placed in a glass box; context gives life to the piece.

    But that's a little like complaining that the town beauty doesn't look like Alicia Silverstone; odds are that you'd still have loved to take her to the prom. The very best is, almost by definition, a rarity, and the Art Institute is still very, very good, offering more than enough to keep one coming back and to keep a visitor to our city busy for days. The sad news of the closing of the Terra Museum has been good news for the Institute, which acquired the Terra's holdings and added them to its already impressive collection of American Art, displayed in the basement, uncomfortably far below the water table that close to the Lake, but let's try not to think about that.

    Frequent shows bring plenty of fresh experiences when one thinks that one might someday get tired of looking at the Renoirs and Monets. The East Asian Art section could stand some expanding, and the African, Indian and Near Eastern art sections are barely there at all, but there are some beautiful woodcuts from Japan. There is also a sad remnant of the Old Stock exchange, a reminder of how casually Chicago's once great architectual heritage was squandered. The room itself can be seen in reconstruction inside the Museum.

    http://www.artic....  (Link to Relevant Picture on Art Institute Homepage)

    Yes, well worth many visits, and offering a rich variety of pleasant suprises, some old, some new. As the name "Art Institute" suggests, this is also a school offering classes in a variety of media, so there are student shows that are often worth visiting.

    The free day, as somebody noted, is now Thursday, but strictly speaking the admission price is only a suggestion, and speaking as one of those to be currently numbered among the poor, I can report that I've seen no grief when I've paid what my budget would bear. (Less than the $8, very often). The Institute is open until 8 pm on Tuesday, and offers far more than I've even hinted at in this brief review.

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738 W Fullerton Ave
Chicago, IL 60614
(773) 883-5282

Bourgeois Pig Cafe  

Categories: Coffee & Tea, Delis
Neighborhood: Lincoln Park

4.0 star rating
2/20/2008
One very nice thing about the Bourgeois Pig: this is one of the quieter coffeehouses, with music turned far lower than at most.

This place may well deserve that fifth star that I've failed to give it. Being gluten intolerant, were I to sample their menu very extensively, I'd end up a very sick boy, because that menu seems to consist almost exclusively of baked goods and things made with baked goods (sandwiches). But, as the saying goes, "the heart longs for company, coffee is only the excuse" - and the company tends to be very good at the Pig.

The coffee's not bad, either. Putting them together, I find I have enough to vouch for this place's having earned its first four stars. I'll leave it to you to decide if they've earned their fifth. :)

They have a homepage:

http://www.bpigcafe.com/

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701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94085

www.yahoo.com  

2.0 star rating
2/6/2008
Please note that there are at least two review pages for this service. More people are reviewing it over here, at this older location:

http://www.yelp.com/bi...

I'm hoping that comments from this page will be relocated to there from here, and that this page will then be deleted, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for this to occur. Wishing that Yelp had a title search, so that less duplication of effort like this would occur.

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PO Box 61359
Sunnyvale, CA 94088
(510) 595-2002

Linkup Central  

Categories: Mass Media, Event Planning & Services

1.0 star rating
12/22/2007 First to Review
(Contact information found via a domain name search at http://Networksolution...)

This social networking site was profiled in a San Francisco Weekly article which focused on an innovative business concept that has distinguished this site from some of its rivals, one which can perhaps best be summed up by the words "the customer is always wrong"; protesting that the staff has punished one unjustly is itself considered an actionable offense on this site! Anybody thinking of investing time in this site would, perhaps, do well to read the article, located at

http://sfweekly.com/20...

and make sure to read the comments that follow, especially those written by the supporters of the site. Pure, smug arrogance blended with an almost mindblowing idiocy that stands out, even on the Internet; eg. the anonymous supporter who snidely commented on the fact that I wasn't out partying at what would have been around 4am my time. Yes, one gets to deal with such things online, but does one really want to travel to do so?

My initial comments / observations:

"Admission: I only skimmed the article and comments. I might come back later, read all of this more carefully and come to a much different conclusion. I'm just sharing a gut reaction. Take it for what it's worth, but keep in mind that most of the silent lurking majority will probably be doing much the same.

What I saw, especially the remarks made by the site's owner and his supporters, sent up red flags all over the place, so much so that I would not want to have anything to do with his site. Michaela - was that the lady's name - certainly sounded very reasonable, the "ad hominem whiners" label attached to her complaints sounded like whining and an ad hominem. Then there was the fact that protesting that one has been punished unjustly is itself something that one can be punished for - wow. Bad, really bad. In how many different places have we seen that standard applied, and never with anything but quasi-Orwellian results?

Flakiness is a real problem, but not one that calls for a centralized, bureaucratic top down solution - miniature judiciaries never seem to produce anything other than Kangaroo court justice for very long. Just let hosts of individual groups exercise discretion in who they allow to stay and who they send away, and give hosts the opportunity to link to other groups which they recommend. Remember that the real power of the Web is to be found in the simple concept of hotlinking, of giving the individual user a choice of who his virtual neighbors will be, so that the "signal to noise ratio" problem of that bad old days of the Usenet era ceases to be a problem once one finds one's way to a good location; the million bad places that may exist for every one good one don't matter, because the few good ones you know of mainly just point you to other good ones, so the bad ones sort of vanish for you, and the once good ones that become bad ones fade away for that reason. This simple principle has worked for websites, and there's no reason why it shouldn't work for social networking groups that work through websites.

K.I.S.S. worked for the Web; there's no reason why it shouldn't be able to work for this, as long as sysops are willing to put their inflated egos to one side and get out of their user's way. This particular site seems unwilling to do that, but head over to http://mashable.com, and you should be able to find a multitude of social networking sites that treat their users with far more respect than this one seems to have. I'd put in the url for my own profile, where I've linked to a set of them that seem to be fairly headache free, but I guess that might be taken as spamming but look - just ask Pete for some advice. He seems to be a nice guy who knows A LOT about this subject, and could probably point the unhappy users of this other, not so friendly site in some very positive and constructive directions."

Commentary this mild was considered grounds for the ad hominems that followed. Interesting, especially when the arbitrary membership deletions that LinkUp Central has become notorious for have been defended on the basis that they are needed for the promotion of civility in the site's membership. Irony happens, I guess. (I've also discussed this site in this review on my blog at StumbleUpon:

http://josephdunphy.st... )

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Lisle, IL 60532
(630) 968-0074

Morton Arboretum  

Categories: Parks, Botanical Gardens, Venues & Event Spaces

4.0 star rating
10/16/2007
Five stars is a bold claim to make for a place, and while local boosters might take issue with such a statement, there is nothing within fifty miles of Chicago that is even going to begin to compare to Yosemite. We're looking at a place that, while large enough to offer a good afternoon's hike in landscape that is surprisingly hilly - for Northern Illinois - isn't so large that one can't hear the traffic noise from the surrounding highways at every single point in the park.

During the summer, the mosquitos are the worst I've ever seen, and I've been in both Southern Florida and Louisiana during the warm weather. Picture walking briskly - and I'm around six and a half feet tall, so picture what "briskly" means for me - lifting up your arm, swatting and taking out ten of the little things with a blow. Really, seriously, bring your insect repellant, or failing that, stick to the northern half of the park, where the bugs are less numerous in most years. But give serious thought to bringing the deep woods off, because missing the Burr Reed Marsh would be a shame, and let's keep this in perspective - they're just mosquitos. It's not like I'm reporting the presence of rabid grizzlies and telling you to bring a taser. Simple preparedness should solve this problem, or at least greatly reduce it.

The best part of the park, I think, is to be found on loops three and four, where the woods are the densest, especially along the stretch of loop three between the junctions with loop four. Get to that stretch on a bright day, and you'll be treated to the sight of a tall coniferous forest, a "cathedral in the pines", stretching out over gently rolling hills and ravines. The Arboretum offers a nice and needed remnant of nature surviving in the middle of the suburban sprawl, probably the best that could exist in that location, and even if it isn't the Redwoods, it will give a local visitor plenty of reasons to keep coming back. I'm just not sure that a visitor from elsewhere would see any reason to make the trip.

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200 W North Ave
Chicago, IL 60654
(312) 867-0186

Starbucks  

Category: Coffee & Tea
Neighborhood: Near North Side

2.0 star rating
10/16/2007
For reasons I've explained elsewhere

http://www.yelp.com/bi...

I'm moving this review off of Yelp. If you'd like to bookmark it, you can find copies of it at these two locations

http://joseph-dunphy.t...

http://joedunphy.poste...

Other material which is, in my view, better suited to Yelp as it exists today, will take its place. If you have bookmarked this review, or are one of the people who marked it as useful, in either case thank you for doing so, but those who have bookmarked it will need to update their links, since I plan to remove it in one month (by July 23, 2011) , at the very latest.

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235 S Columbus Dr
Chicago, IL 60604
(773) 866-9740

Chicago Blues Festival  

Category: Jazz & Blues
Neighborhood: The Loop

4.0 star rating
10/5/2007 1 photo First to Review
The show can get a little draggy and repetitious at mid day, which is why only four stars, and Chicago's finest is out forcibly closing the park at 10 sharp (not cool), but on Friday and Saturday night toward closing one gets a show and an audience that is not to be missed. Get in a little before sunset, and seats should be available inside the fence - just be sure to leave your cameras and your glass bottles at home.

If you get there late, no worries, just bring a chair, and be amazed at how friendly a crowd of a quarter of a million people can be. The food stands behind the shell tend to be overpriced, ounce for ounce, but if you pass through that line of stalls, on some years a nice art show can be found in the park, and there are the hopefuls busking away on the sidewalks leading up to the fest.

Bashing this event has become a rite of passage for the terminally cool, who will point to the "safe" nature of many of the acts, but if you aren't concerned with impressing somebody, you might be willing to admit that you enjoyed seeing B.B. King on stage, who looked like he was having a grand old time up there - and so were we.

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The Last Great Book I Read

Dostoevsky, Crime and Punishment. Only in translation, I'm afraid.

My First Concert

Too poor to afford concerts

My Favorite Movie

Not really applicable, because I don't tend to watch movies more than once.

My Last Meal On Earth

I don't really tend to have a favorite anything. Only a favorite somebody.

Don't Tell Anyone Else But...

You can return to your ring by going to my homepage.

Most Recent Discovery

Evening Island at the Chicago Botanical Garden in Autumn

Current Crush

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