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Obama Honors Fallen Soldiers In Surprise Visit To Dover MD

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10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

My husband actually is in the unit who does these Dover Missions and receive the fallen soldiers. It's suppose to be an honoring of the soldier not the president. Using dead soldiers to get publicity. How low can you go? It pisses me off that the Press was even their. How did they find out that obama was going to visit the fallen soldiers. People should be giving tribute to the men who have lost their lives not giving props to the pres for saluting them. Common people.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    uh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh spaghettOs....grabs popcorn.

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Hi Shan! Is this seat taken?

  3. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    Right.

    We should "honor" our war dead they way the last administration did: by  hiding them.

    He's the Commander in Chief; it's his DUTY to publicly recognize and honor our war dead, and I am glad we have a president to takes that duty seriously.

    What's "low" is to try to hide the sacrifice of these men and women because it's politically expedient NOT to honor them publicly.

    Cripes, woman.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    Hi Melany.  I'm sorry you're upset.  I heard about the visit on NPR this morning.  Since the military lifted the ban on the coverage of fallen soldiers coming home, the media was allowed to be there.  I believe of the 18 soldiers, only one gave permission for the coverage, and so they reported on that one soldier, but also got to scoop that Obama was there.  While I can't imagine the grief of the families and close friends and other soldiers in their unit, I don't think that Obama was using the issue strictly for publicity.  As the President presiding over this war, I think he owes it to those soldiers to pay his respects, and he should do it to as many as he possibly can.  Now, covering it and making it a media spectactle, yeah that's disgusting--but I thnk that's more of the media's fault in general.  I'm sorry it upsets you though.  War is one of the few things I don't argue about.

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    So would it have been better if he just flipped them the bird? the headlines read "obama receives fallen soldiers" not LOOK IT'S DA PREZZZ!!!!!

    @How did they find out that obama was going to visit the fallen soldiers?  This is the deadliest month in Afghanistan, Melany. Let the man pay his respects.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    and by one* I meant his family gave permission.  Sorry for the creepy mistake

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    how would you like to recieve your dead husband after not seeing him for months with cameras around, it's not a funeral. these men are on ice coming home in crates. uit's discusting that the president is using this to get him publicity. the ceremony is suppose to be silent.

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    SB took the words right out of my mouth.
    People have short memories and like to twist things to fit the way they see them.
    Bush forbidding media coverage of fallen soldiers might mean honoring to you, but dishonoring and dishonest to me.
    Obama's act might mean publicity to you, but it seems like long overdue public honoring and recognition to me.

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    I personally would be honored to have my husband honored by the president of the US. Luckily the closest he ever got to a war zone was Bahrain (it's still considered combat zone, btw) and I got to greet him at home.

    I think you're missing the part where the family gave the media permission to cover it.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    It is not dishonest. it's suppose to be a privet event. Only family members are usually invited to recieve their family members from dover. it's not suppose to be a spectical. Again this is not a funeral. Its a man coming home for the first time. his family should get to see him first with out making it into the next big thing.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    Very true Melany, but I think it's important to remember that this didn't happen for all the soldiers that came on those planes.  All those pictures you see are of ONE soldier and his family gave permission for that to happen.  Every other soldier was received in silence and had the full respect of the media at that time. Obama met separately with the families and he went inside alone--no entourage in the chapel.  He paid respects alone.  I don't believe it was a media circus.

  12. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    Melany ... please pay attention: the families of the war dead have the CHOICE of whether or not there's a public recognition of their loved one's remains when they are returned.

    A CHOICE.

    It's disgusting to you? Fine. Don't look. But I believe that family will proudly keep a copy of the newspapers announcing that the Commander-in-Chief, the person who takes responsibility for this war and for our troops, publicly mourned with them.

    He did that on my behalf (on behalf of the whole country, who elected him) , at the family's  request.

    If you  want to be outraged by that, fine. But you're looking like you're coming down with the Dana Virus.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Melany, so are you trying to say that Obama was there when the families were identifying the deceased? Do me a favor, tell your husband to not believe everything they say down there at the "shop" (His unit) those military guys can do a lot of useless gossip.

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Privet=http://images.google.c...

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    I really dont see what the big deal is. I honestly just feel he is paying his respects to people who died. Unfortunately this makes me feel you have an issue with Obama and are basically looking for reasons to bash him. This may be an incorrect assumption, but it unfortunately is the first thing I think of.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Oh and Melany, and take that gossip with a grain of salt. I remember we used to call wives who were clueless and going off their husband's shop gossip "mushroom wives" LOL so funny...

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone MiC "odemus" g. says:

    Melany - I'd like say first off, that I'm glad to see you back on the threads after what happened last time. You got moxy.

    Moving on, I haven't heard about what you have posted, but with all things dealing in politics - perception is based in one's ideleogical bias.

    As for the lowest you can go - I think lying about a football star that died under friendly fire, covering the facts up, and then making a media show about his heroic actions in fighting terrorists is the lowest thing a president can do.

    We don't have to agree, but we can be civil......     right?

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    @ Keon...Her husband probably has an issue with him and she's probably just repeating what she heard him complain about (hence not knowing the facts) and he probably heard it from some of the boneheads in his unit.

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    You're brainwashed, honey.  

    And why are you directing this towards the Pres, and not the media?  Let me guess, your husband feels exactly the same way you do...

    and if the family gave permission?

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    The military calls the process a dignified transfer, not a ceremony, because there is nothing to celebrate. The cases are not labeled coffins, although they come off looking that way, enveloped in flags. The media should not be ther. If the president wants to honor the soldiers I think that is great. I think that lifting the media ban should have not happened.

    as for Vigorian: Do not talk about my husband You have no idea what he does. He actually has recieved many of the soldiers at Dover. He had missions at the tomb of the unknow. He was there working security at Obama's inogeration. So seriously dont just and say that these men gossip and dont know their stuff.

    My point is the media shouldnt be there.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    Press... not president.. my bad i can see how you could thought President....

    Press=Media

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    Shan...jinx!

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    @ Mic, being civil on here is no fun. She can talk the way she wants, it's more interesting than the scripted phoney-like etiquette replies people dish out on here.

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    dammit it's always the media's fault.

    except fox news.
    that's the most unbiased channel i ever did see.

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    Ok, Melany, I understand your feeling against the press being there, but at the same time it's very easy for us to forget that people are out there dying... I think this is a reminder to the country that yes, there is a war going on and lives are being lost...

    Kind of like out of sight, out of mind.

  26. 10/29/2009 B M. says:

    So be angry at the family that chose to allow the media there.

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Your point is that families should be silenced. The greatest honor any nation can bestow on it's fallen, is to allow the families who have lost a loved one to choose how they wish to receive their soldier. You are arguing that a family that wanted the media present should have that wish denied. You are arguing for fascism.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    haha, sigh at Faux News.

    Melany, I think it should have always been up to the family to make that decision and it should never have been taken away.  It's a family moment--let em have it if they want it.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    Adding on to Nas: that's how the Vietnam War ended--when people are forced to look at the death, destruction, and sacrifice, it makes them really think hard about whether it's worth it.  It helps remind us that war is no joke, that real lives are at stake, and we shouldn't take these freedoms for granted.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Melany, I don't give a flying toothless old lady's right boob what your husband does and I can talk about whoever the hell I want.

    Again, maybe you shouldn't just go off SHOP GOSSIP. You and your hubby complaining at Obama over stuff neither of you know nothing about. Like bitter old ladies.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    @ Nas, I agree with you. It IS easy for people to forget there is a War going on and people are dying.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone MiC "odemus" g. says:

    If you guys can't behave, then I'm sending you all straight to your rooms....

    and no ice cream!

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Opti, LOL you got out of your seat!

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    18 soldiers were recieved. 1 family wanted the press their. Is it fair that the rest of the families were subjected to the media being their because of this one family? Maybe only man was shown being recieved but the media was still their and it's unfair to the other families.

    everyone has an arguable statement...

    except for Vigoian who makes ignorant comments disrespecting people that she doesnt know. Yeah my husband doesnt know crap about the dover missions other than he leads a squad that performs them.

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Wait, why is it okay to talk about someone's son but not their husband?

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    @ Shan. Had to. Didn't want to. Had to.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Melany go cook dinner.

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    I agree, Melany, it does not seem fair that 1 family resulted in the press being there.  Seems it should be at least the majority of the families.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    thanks

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Melany, your initial post was a rant about the media honoring the President and him making it a publicity stunt. You know nothing about what's going on, and have been corrected here. You are going off SHOP TALK, repeating what you hear without research like 4 year olds do when they hear a curse word.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    I'm alot more informed than the Media and their spin off of what they sasy. i dont need to research when i have hands on experiance. no shop talk here

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    The media is kept in check during the transfer.  It's not like paparazzi for The Enquirer.  It's actual respectable news organizations (AP) that would like to maintain a cordial relationship with the military, so I'm sure they wouldn't be so rude as to talk to, photograph, harass the other families that did not give permission for them.  As you can see, even for the one soldier and Obama himself, there's only a small number of pictures that have been released.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    Did any one notice the "inogeration?" sorry thought that was funny. It's "inauguration" hon. Anyhow, this is an opportunity for all of the country to honor the lives that were lost in this war. And not only lives lost but lives that are still there. Jeez.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    yea i suck at spelling thanks

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    Isn't that what's important here? Our soldiers ! God bless f*ckng america!

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Yes, Mai...and privet, and pres, and sasy, and so on.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Right @ Bassey. I don't even understand what she's talking about.

    @ Melany, what hands on experience do you have with the military other than having your hands ON a military guy at night? Seriously, being the wife of a serviceman doesn't qualify you as a professional. How long have you been a military wife?

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    I ran into a group of the injured vets at McGinty's and bought them a few rounds.  Very sad, missing limbs, in wheelchairs, etc.  I had never seen them before even though I pass Walter Reed everyday.  Sweet group of guys.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    The pee thread was more fun.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    Let's go back to what you DO know hon.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    lmao @ Mai!

  52. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    "The media should not be ther. If the president wants to honor the soldiers I think that is great. I think that lifting the media ban should have not happened."

    But it did, Melany. That media ban was put into place during a largely discredited administrations, campaign to manipulate public perceptions of a tragically mistaken war it was waging and to "smooth over" the tragic consequences of that war.

    That, we hope, is over. Government will always have some secrets. But making it *policy* to make the mourning of war dead a "private matter" is a false and cynical way of dealing with what is a very public, political, and important event.

    President Obama was doing an important part of his job. A job that was not merely neglected, but actually eschewed by his predecessor.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    The problem is when you start off a post making a very opinionated statement, you have to expect responses that counter or react to that opinion. It's not that people aren't allowed to have opinions on yelp, but you basically are jumping to conclusions or at least making a very opinionated guess about what you think happened.

    Who says they were honoring the president? That's not what I thought at all.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    wow so the pee thread was a big hit huh, i got a few pm days after

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    You're a gem, Melany. I am sure you did get PMs and could probably list who you got them from, lol.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    yea these kind of comments were expected but my stand on the issue is still the same.

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  58. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    Heeeere, troll ... heeeeere, troll ... nice troll ... how 'bout a nice snack, little troll?

    Some SPAM, little troll? How about some Spotted Dick, little troll?

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Melany, what is your stand? That you truly believe President Obama used "dead soldiers" for publicity?

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    well he didnt need to lift that media ban did he.. yea my stand is the same

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    LOL and what is your "stand" my dear?

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    10/29/2009 N S. says:

    Melany, why do you think there was a media ban in the first place?  Please answer me that question.

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    10/29/2009 Derryk "The Samurai" A. says:

    I believe that Bush also attended these same returns to Dover years ago when the first wave had arrived back from Iraq. I will have to research further.

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Melany, why do you hate the Bill of Rights?

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Wait a minute people, I'm still trying to find out what "stand" she's on.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    1) Secretary Gates lifted the ban.  And the key word is lifted, remember that it wasn't always there--just since Bush Senior, and it was only cuz he made that epic gaffe with the coverage of the fallen soldiers coming home in the background.  
    2) I'm surprised that the wife of a soldier is advocating the denial of basic constitutional freedoms that her soldier fights to protect.  
    3) It's the family's decision, you cannot ask a family to remain silent for YOUR comfort.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    No, President Obama lifted the ban himself right before he decided to make his publicity stunt. You know, he just made a phone call and told them to lift it for a few hours so he can make his performance..er...I mean appearance.

  71. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    There is only one, true, Universal Internet Troll, who manifests in a thousand thousand forms and has a thousand thousand names. It stalks the interwebs and the blogospheres, where it feeds on carrion it finds there.

    We know this Universal Troll as Dana K; we know her as Jessika; and now we know her a Melany.

    Feed her, and she will thrive.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Bassey your number 2, don't be shocked at all. Happens all the time..do we have any military brats here? We call these kind of military wives "Mushroom wives"

    They are good at 3 or more of the following:

    1. Cleaning
    2. Making babies
    3. Taking credit for their hubby's service to the country just because they are married to them
    4. Spending the BAH
    5. Cheating
    6. Cooking
    7. Looking cute

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    10/29/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    My 2 cents:
    1) We need to get out of Afghanistan STAT.  Bring back the troops, alive.
    2) The president, no matter who he is, shouldn't be berated for visiting the dead in a respectful way.
    3) The president shouldn't be a media whore.
    4) The media shouldn't be a whore for any administration or political wing.
    Ok.  I think that covers it.

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    10/29/2009 Derryk "The Samurai" A. says:

    Okay I'm sorry no Bush did not ever attended or had honor the fallen soldiers he met with some of the families in private only. Taken from http://Chron.com: "President George W. Bush, visited the families of hundreds of fallen soldiers but did not attend any military funerals or go to Dover to receive the coffins. In a 2006 interview with the military newspaper "Stars and Stripes," Bush said he felt the appropriate way to show his respect was to meet with family members in private."

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    10/29/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    I couldn't help it, SB... I like petting zoos.

  77. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    Now see, me, I like a whore.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    @ Derryk, oh how honorable of Mr. Bush.

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    where's "mushroom wives" come from? never heard of that, but shan is pretty much right on the ball with her requirements... hate to say it... but there is a stereotype.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Yep @ Olivia...which is why I "cringe" when anyone thanks a military WIFE for her husband's "sacrifice" to this Country. Especially a young, naive one.

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    10/29/2009 Derryk "The Samurai" A. says:

    We should have never left Afghanistan in the first place that is where our fight was PERIOD not Iraq, that was W's war. Those who attacked us were in Afghanistan and they are still there because we had to abandon that to foolishly invade Iraq. The Taliban in Afghanistan "the forgotten war" thrived under our obsession with Iraq which had absolutely nothing to do with Binladen or the Taliban. Iraq was the biggest waste ever in our history. Don't get me started on the subject.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    I hate Dick Cheney...

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    I'm fascinated by Cheney.  Just such evil.  so unapologetic. so. evil.  Seriously.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    fast forward to 4:29. soooo Dick.  http://www.hulu.com/wa...

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Where's Melly Mel?

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    LMAO, that's a hilarious clip!

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    She pm'd me.. She had mushroom duties to tend to

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    LOL! Probably grocery shopping or shoe shopping. Maybe divorce court is on.

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    10/29/2009 Vasily T. says:

    The man is the Commander in Chief at a time of war, and carries the burden of sending men and women into combat in defense of his nation's interests and security with the full realization that some will not make it home to their families.  Don't over-politicize this, neither he nor the families involved deserve to be used as a political football.  I'm extremely partisan, but there are times when a president is the President.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone Mai T. says:

    Oh crap divorce court is on!

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    LMAO! Mai, i love you! LOL!!

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    1 hour ago Melany "Bite Size" S. says:

    well he didnt need to lift that media ban did he.. yea my stand is the same
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    So Mel, who did you vote for last November?

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    10/29/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    Here's my prob with this whole thing... (cracking open can o' worms)
    9 months in, and no decision at all on Afghanistan after the report from the general was turned in in August...
    I feel like maybe if he had made a decision, either to surge or to pull out or do SOMETHING after he got his recommendations, he may not have had to visit that dead soldier.

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  98. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    ... and here I was feeling glad we have a President who doesn't just jump in on things that require thought, planning, consultation with his peeps, and with our allies.

    This is not a time for MBA's proving their decisiveness in order to nail down that December bonus for a short-term gain. We've been there (Iraq) and need to go ahead, accept the fact that whatever happens in Afghanistan will be blamed on the President not acting fast enough, and THINK.

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    10/29/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    When has he thought, planned, or consulted?  I see him at fund raisers and press ops more than anything.  He met with the guys whose business is war once in how many months?
    Meh.
    Planning, consultation, and thought are welcome... and I'd love to see evidence that any of that is going on.

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    10/29/2009 Derryk "The Samurai" A. says:

    You won't cause all that going on is kept a secret for a reason.

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    10/29/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    It's not a secret when he speaks with or doesn't... just what they're talking about...
    Part of an interview with the general in charge of Afghanistan about the Pres:

    "You've talked to him once in 70 days?" Mr. Martin followed up.

    "That is correct," the general replied.

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    this walks the line between FINALLY doing something presidential and cheap theater. When in doubt, wrap yourself around the flag and the military. Bush used to go to Walter Reed - without the press following him around - and visit the families and soldiers there. He'd been doing it for quite some time before it came out in the news. I got the feeling he was genuine.

    For those who are asking, yes I do have a problem with him going to Dover for this "meet and greet" photo-op. This is the same man who before the election on his world tour didn't have time to visit with our wounded troops in Germany because he couldn't have his entourage (including photographers) in there with him. So he went to the gym and played basketball. This is the same man who a couple of days ago in Jacksonville told sailors he wouldn't rush his decision on Afghanistan and risk more lives. Yet his very waffling on the subject in the mean time is putting the troops already there in more danger. The same man who said during the elections that "Afghanistan is the right war." Who hand picked Gen McChrystal because he believed him to be the right man for the job. Who he then didn't have the time of day to meet with and study his proposal until the General brought it up in the press. He is playing politics with the lives of our brave men and women who are over there. Get off the pot Mr President and make a decision. Fight to win or bring them home!

    Whats my stand? who did i vote for? only and idiot would need to ask.

  103. 10/29/2009 B M. says:

    Wait, wars are political issues now? Say it ain't so!

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    I hope we don't keep focus on Obama here...I think about the solider in the casket and his/her family waiting for them.

    Thats the last thing i have to ssay here.

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    10/29/2009 Tracey "Who Gon Check Me Boo?" C. says:

    Talked to as in communicated or as in had a face to face? You can't tell me Obama isn't "talking" to the man on a more consistent basis.

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Melany says "Whats my stand? who did i vote for? only and idiot would need to ask."

    Well in that case, you should have voted for instead of watching Divorce Cout that Tuesday.

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Melany "Bite Size" S. says:

    I hope we don't keep focus on Obama here...I think about the solider in the casket and his/her family waiting for them.

    Thats the last thing i have to ssay here.
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    OMG, there is a photo of casket! Of COURSE the focus is the fallen soldier(s). YOU are the one putting the focus on the President.

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  109. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    That trashtalk about Obama playing basketball was debunked internet legend - anyone who looks past Faux News saw that. Cripes, even Faux finally had to report on the phony email and pic that was circulating.

    Is anyone else noting a distinct change in um ... "literary style" in Mellie's latest posts?

    And does anyone else wanna bet whether this promise: "... Thats the last thing I have to ssay here" will be kept?

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    10/29/2009 G "sPOT" K. says:

    that last little speech was totally a cut and paste, or someone else's thoughts...

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    10/29/2009 G "sPOT" K. says:

    yep SSB, I totally caught that.

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    i REALLLLLY doubt she voted, period nor does she know the difference between the views of Bill O'Reily vs. Anderson Cooper. Shop talk indeed.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    If only Sarah Palin was here, she would save everyone! everyone i tell you!

    Let's please not get started on presidents and wars. I get the feeling you think george bush did a great job in the iraq war and bungling all the rest of shit that got totally f'd up. I'm sorry but your rants just seem like someone who can't stand Obama and is just nitpicking on anything to get upset with them. If you wanna get mad at presidents, get mad at the last administration who spent most of their time deceiving and bungling. WMD in iraq.. all sorts of stupid crap like that. I honestly get tired of people whining and crying when you had an administration before that blatantly lied about things. Are you one of those people who also believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11. I'm sorry to bash and get personal but there is only so much I can take. I think a lot of people could benefit from watching a lot less Faux (fox) news and learning more facts. The point is, Obama and congress are cleaning up the messes left from the last 8 years.

    /end rant

  114. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    Oh, and by the way: often, the Joint Chiefs and the Pentagon - who actually run ALL  wars in a civilian society, as opposed to a military junta - prefer that the Commander-in-Chief communicate with field command through them, rather than trying to pretend that the President is a rough-and-tumble military Joe ... helps prevent scenes of draft dodgers posing on aircraft carriers and ...

    oh, god. somebody stop  me ...

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    In this case, 11 of the 17 families had already reached a decision against coverage before they were notified that Obama would be there, said White House press secretary Robert Gibbs.

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    10/29/2009 Melany S. says:

    didnt finish reading did ya?

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Melany, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    helps prevent scenes of draft dodgers posing on aircraft carriers and ...
    yep Mike

    pulling out big ass MISSION ACCOMPLISHED signs.

    LOLLL

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    Billy Madison!! FTW!!

  122. 10/29/2009 B M. says:

    I'm amazed this troll isn't full, as much as you guys are feeding it.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    what I dont get in this outrage is what the big deal is if the president visits someone to mourn with them. BIG DEAL. The way this outrage is framed you swear Obama pulled out his thing and peed on them or something. Give me a break, he visited them, he left. Did someone get shot or killed because of this? It's framed as if some irreparable damage was done to the families and arguments like these really test my patience. I have a feeling if it was George Bush you wouldn't be upset about this at all. It's not like the familes are gonna poop their pants at night after seeing Obama or something....

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Ben, I don't classify of her as a troll. She really believes on this tom foolery unlike *cough8 DANA K

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Keon, this isn't an Democrat vs. Republican thing with her. It's based off some warped opinion she formed based on lots of gossip from her husband, other little housewives, and perhaps her sister's myspace blog.

  126. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    @ Ben ... and I'm amazed that I'm back in here feeding it.

    Cripes.

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    10/29/2009 from Yelp for iPhone MiC "odemus" g. says:

    Who wants butt sechs?

    For realz, peeps.

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    10/29/2009 Vasily T. says:

    Have you actually seen the video?: http://www.youtube.com...

    Someone is actually talking crap about this?

    I'm mentally curb-checking the shit out of Beck's and Limbaugh's fat fucking faces right now.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    did you read some of the youtube comments. They are priceless HAHAHAHHHHA. People responded to people complaining about it, in not so nice ways.

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    Wow Vasily.   Also, not quite the media circus "some" believed it to be.

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  132. 10/29/2009 S B. says:

    What a dumb fooking question, mic. ... everyone wants buttsechs.

    Cripes.

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    omg mic & sb hahahaha you guys are too much

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    10/29/2009 olivia "mama said knock you out" d. says:

    i mean

    how dare you desecrate this very serious thread with your childish antics. this is DISRESPECTFUL to the SOLDIERS guys.

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    10/29/2009 Keon "Dancing Santa" D. says:

    olivia "holllaaaa" d. says:

    i mean

    how dare you desecrate this very serious thread with your childish antics. this is DISRESPECTFUL to the SOLDIERS guys.
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    Exactly! People died today because Obama made a brief visit. Lives were shattered, and things will never be the same for those families because they happened to see Obama briefly! Some of these peoples children might even start pooping themselves in bed after this. This is serious!!!

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    10/29/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    haha keon. i just giggled out loud.  GOL, is that a thing?

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    Melanie, I asked you a question: why do you hate the Bill of Rights? Can I refer you to the first Amendment? (It's my favorite.)

    Do you really think coming here and trashing your husband's boss is a good idea? Does he know what you do with the laundry while he's at work?

    And GOL is my new thing. Love it.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Gloria! You are so smart, I noticed the cut and paste of someone elses thoughts as well. That is CRAZY, she is so illiterate that she has to go to other forums and copy and paste other people's posts. There is no one someone who goes from not knowing how to spell, saying "inogeration" as Inauguration will be able to articulate their thoughts in a flash. Or, I would not be shocked her husband is typing that out for her. Melanie, your real name wouldn't be "Krystal" would it?? Hmmm...

    This bird is cooked.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    @ Opti,

    Her husband is probably the one putting the thoughts in her head, lol. I have heard this kind of military smack so many times. God bless those guys but a lot of them are gossip eating drones and many(not all) are very close minded. That's my personal opinion of dealing with military my entire life, and I am sticking with it. Also depends on the branch, also.

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    10/29/2009 Kim T. says:

    Melany - you have beautiful family (your kids are ridiculously adorable). The idea of you filling their heads with dribble bumbs me out.

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Doesn't shock me one bit @ Kim T

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    10/29/2009 Kim T. says:

    @ Shan - Maybe we can make arrangements for your kids to reprogram hers...any procreating plans in the near future? UYE "Play-Date"

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    10/29/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    @ both of you, LOL!!!!

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    Kim, no pro-creating days for me any time soon, lol. Plus my babies if my plan is right and I stay with the same person-- will be biracial and angry..therefore will believe "re-programming" ones kid means beating it up. So the UYE, will really turn into the UFC LOL

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    10/29/2009 Virgoian W. says:

    aaaaaaaand, I'm kidding, btw ;) I do not advocate violence at all. And will WHOOP my kid's ass if they ever hit anyone. LOL (sniggle)

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    10/29/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Don't ask me how... or why... but Keon's last post made me think. I think any family would be HONORED if the President showed for this, especially if there were children. When people shout what a senseless war this is and the child cries that daddy died in vain, mama can show her child that the President thought daddy was an American HERO. (or mama died).

    I will admit I did not vote for Obama nor did my family (not trying to start shit, just stating a fact about me). However, I was honored that he was involved in my sister's graduation from the US Naval Academy. Did I think the press being there took away from her glory? Not at all. Regardless of my political views, I am proud that my sister got to shake that man's hand.

    And as far as this latest move on Obama's part, as  (realllly liberal) Republican, Obama won points with me. So Melany, your views are warped like Dana K, babe. You talk about American pride? You have none.

    Kick Rocks, Deuces.

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    Every family is given three options as it pertains to the media: 1. Allow the media access, 2. Don't allow any media, or 3. Don't allow media access but have an internal military service tape the proceedings.  The family gets a DVD of the service if they wish with options 1 and 3.  The decision makers are the family, as it should be.

    The President, or more fitting in this situation The Commander-In-Chief, can show up anytime he wants.  I don't get why this is an issue.... would you rather him show up to the World Series opener while 18 servicemembers are arriving at Dover AFB?  You fox"news" flunkies would have loved that....

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Melany, I got bad news for you. You're gonna be pissed. The shit will hit the fan in your house today:

    http://yourfuneralguy....

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    11/10/2009 from Yelp for iPhone MiC "odemus" g. says:

    Oh crap.

    Who wants lemonade?

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    11/10/2009 Bassey "Wrong girl, wrong kind, wrong hand 2B holding" E. says:

    who farted?

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    11/10/2009 Hannah "Empress of The Universe" C. says:

    Smells like everybody did.

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Melany Says "Get off the pot Mr President and make a decision."

    There is far too much emphasis placed on the toilet with this lady

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    11/10/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    The Funeral Guy? Michelle, you're a frickin genius! Seriously.

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Damnit opti, I'm at work. All the other news stories to this were blocked and this was all i could find.

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Damnit opti, I'm at work. All the other news stories to this were blocked and this was all i could find.

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    11/10/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    No, it was perfect. Plus...I love the idea of a blog about funerals! It's like the opposite extreme from the slow cooker lady...

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    who is this elusive slow cooker lady

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    who is this elusive slow cooker lady

  160. 11/10/2009 B M. says:

    You seem to have a double clicking problem today. Too much coffee?

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    11/10/2009 Áine "A with a vent" F. says:

    This, my darling Michelle, is the slow cooker lady:

    http://crockpot365.blo.../

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    11/10/2009 Michelle "NOTORIOUS C.H.I.N.K.Y" L. says:

    Damn the commonwealth

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