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What is the estimated in cost for opening a dessert shop in San Francisco or surrounding areas?

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05/15/2008 Lainey "LaineyPoo" H. says:

Either a small little dessert shop or coffee shop. This includes everything from beginning to the day the shop opens.
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05/15/2008 Ralph "HNIC" C. says:

i could tell you but then i'd have to kill you
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05/15/2008 kari t. says:

A lot....and we have enough of those cafes/ pastry shops in SF already.  If you open one, you'd better be darned exquisite and distinguished.  Can you open a dog cafe?? that would be so awesome..and preferably within  block or 2 from my house.  thanks.
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05/15/2008 Lance H. says:

If you're thinking about opening a business, this question isn't the place to start.
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05/15/2008 Sharon "Missy" J. says:

I've used this to find information about opening a business http://www.sba.gov/
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05/15/2008 Kevin "Is Filled with Angst, Contempt, Booze, and Trivia" H. says:

If people wanna go to the desert, why don't they just drive there?
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05/15/2008 NISHisHOT g. says:

A SBA loan of $250,000 would be a nice start.  

Lease.  Supplies.  Marketing.  Employees.
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05/15/2008 Jeff "The Cheesemonger" D. says:

couldn't say about dessert, but our budget for a cheese and wine store was over 300K.  i'd think that with the ovens and grease traps and full on food service stuff, 500K at least

and woh, nishishot is back.  hey baby!
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05/15/2008 Sharon "Missy" J. says:

This also has good information http://www.startupnati...
Get a solid business plan down
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05/16/2008 Sun E. says:

Besides a large amount of $ to invest in a small business,
you might want to consider the economy right now...not in great shape.

I think many people are cutting out luxuries at all price points.

Yet, it will get better!
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05/16/2008 Gil "chickencat" S. says:

I would guess $150K to $500K.  $150K would be no cooking facilities or alcohol license, no serious key money to purchase existing business, minimal renovations on place that's already up to code.

If you look at a place like Citizen Cake I would guess $500K to $1M to duplicate that.  

On the very low end it's possible to buy an existing small coffee shop in some out of the way place for $30K to $50K, but you'd have quite a tough time making a living at it.

Also factor in the risk (meaning you need extra money in reserve) and the lead time.  Watch out for labor.  Anytime you have to hire people you have a very big expense plus liability, risk of theft, quality control issues, etc.
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05/16/2008 Cheryl D. says:

it depends - on everything
a rough business plan might help you estimate better
maybe you can try to work at a dessert shop to know the ins and outs and get a good idea, make vendor contacts, do research, county codes,  etc
good luck.

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