Obama Fatigue Sets In...

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2/26/2008 Mc Matty b. says:

I'd prefer her, but can deal with him.
I just hope Nader doesn't screw with the Independent votes.
I am so tired of the political cliche known as "CHANGE"
Whomever says CHANGE next is not getting my vote.
I am tired.

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2/26/2008 Julie F. says:

did anyone see the saturday night live sketch they did of the debate last week. Hilarious! "Senator Obama, is there anything we can get you. How are you feeling? Are you comfortable?"

2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

thats why last debate she ended by say how proud she was to be sitting with Obama in the campaign... oh yes real bitchy to me... but of course we already know that most men think powerful women MUST be bitches.  Well, I say, bring ON the bitches man!

2/26/2008 Beau G. says:

Not only is he a Somali terrorist, he also seems to be a Bollywood film star.

http://www.youtube.com...

Why do you hate Mom and Apple Pie Barack?

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2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

Julie, is there a youtube link?

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2/26/2008 Beau G. says:

"Obama's Support Grows Broader, New Poll Finds"

http://www.nytimes.com...

I'm so tired....   Tired of playing the game...

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2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

more broads support obama?

i thought hill had all the broads in her camp!

2/26/2008 David D. says:

The last time I checked, they were both Senators.  Calling either one a slacker is unrealistic.

2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

from the referenced NYT's article:

"When all voters are asked to look ahead to the general election, Mr. McCain is more likely to be seen as prepared for the presidency, able to handle an international crisis and equipped to serve as commander in chief than either of the Democratic candidates."

2/26/2008 Julie F. says:

Jim-
I work in a school and can't access youtube, sorry. But I found it just by searching  Saturday Nihgt Live Democratic Debate, or something along those lines.

2/26/2008 Devon "Completely Appropriate™" F. says:

I thought SNL was hilarious in their skewering of the media lovefest for Obama. Jim, you should also google the Tina Fey Weekend Update segment about how bitches get things done.

I clearly have been an ardent supporter of Clinton. I was an early sufferer of Obama-fatigue, and that has not dissipated, but spread to both candidates. I don't think Hillary should drop out prior to Texas and Ohio, but her days do seem to be numbered. She does seem desperate and exasperated at this point, but after the way the media has coddled Obama and treated her, it's not a surprise.

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

I find those beaded car seat covers to be helpful when I have obama fatigue.

2/26/2008 Beau G. says:

Team Clinton: Down, and Out of Touch
By Dana Milbank
Tuesday, February 26, 2008; A02

They are in the last throes, if you will.

As Vice President Cheney knows, such predictions can be perilous. Still, there was no mistaking a certain flailing, a lashing-out, as two Clinton advisers sat down for a bacon-and-eggs session yesterday at the St. Regis Hotel.

The Christian Science Monitor had assembled the minences grises of the Washington press corps -- among them David Broder of The Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times and columnist Mark Shields -- for what turned out to be a fascinating tour of an alternate universe.

First came Harold Ickes, who gave a presentation about Hillary Rodham Clinton's prospects that severed all ties with reality. "We're on the way to locking this nomination down," he said of a candidate who appears, if anything, headed in the other direction.

http://www.washingtonp...

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2/26/2008 Devon "Completely Appropriate™" F. says:

Jeremy G -

I think that pretty much everyone can agree that Jim and I are not only now professing to being suspicious of Obama. I am many things, but being flakily inconsistent is not one of them.

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

Unless you are okay with the prospect of President John McCain, the best thing everyone can do at this point is to stop the anti-Obama rhetoric and unite to make a change.  

Yes, I am an Obama supporter, but I would say the exact same thing if Clinton were the likely candidate.  Democratic divisiveness is a Republican's best friend.

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2/26/2008 Joe "Pickles" G. says:

I'm still holding out for Mary Carey to enter the race.

2/26/2008 Suge K. says:

president michael bloomberg

2/26/2008 Amy "www.maisonaime.blogspot.com" Z. says:

I'm sorry but her behavior is typical of a woman at the highest cattiest level.  When she gets down or is having problems, she pulls out the claws and jabs at whatever she can.  If she really had a high ground or a platform of change to stand on, now is the time to pull it out.  I just don't understand why she constantly has to hit below the belt.  People aren't dumb, and they see right through it.  Alls it does is make the people who already don't care for her make them dislike her more, and then the ones that were supporters are starting to stray.

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

With the exception of a very few politicians  they all act like bitches.  They all take low blows.  Sometimes it works and we call it a historical zinger ("You're NO Jack Kennedy!"), and sometimes it fails and we call it hitting below the belt.

I am not a huge fan of Mrs. Clinton, but I still think that her tactics are no bitchier than most male politicians.

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2/26/2008 Stinky M. says:

voting for any democrat or republican is a vote for more of the same. nader is the real voice of change. nader is the new black...

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

I do agree with Kevin MMM. that Obama had a much harder road to hoe campaign-wise.  I remember being laughed at last year when I talked about liking Obama for president.  I saw plenty of media that did everything short of calling her the  2008 Democratic candidate.

Granted, she's had her obstacles since them, some of them unfairly placed in her way and others of her own making.

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

"her" = Clinton

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

A lot of people, especially the darling young 20 and 30 something hipsters  on the Obama band wagon (not to insult those of you who support him for legitimate, political reasons) are going to lose interest as he becomes the established democratic presidential candidate.  They'll reminisce about the days when they used to watch him when the rallies were only several hundred, and how they like, totally discovered him before anybody else.  They'll further bemoan that he's now a sellout (how can anybody who suddenly becomes massively popular in these people's minds not be titled one?) and they'll talk about how he's lost, if not sold, his soul.  Obama is going to become too cool and too popular for his hipster supporters who know it all, calculate their jadedness in order to maximize their coolness, and exercise any other behavior that will allow them to extend their adolescence as far through their life as possible.  When this epiphany occurs, I imagine sometime in July or August, they'll fall into the open and waiting arms of Nader.   This of course will be hilarious, because the 'were-to-cool for the establishment' attitude that propelled Obama's candidacy and trashed another, very viable, very qualified one, will ultimately undermine Obama in the general election.  Chickens coming home as they say.  Forgive me if I sound like John Kerry, but I support Ralph Nader and John McCain.

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2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

yeah, well your post made no sense

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

It probably didn't make any sense, because usually when anything that remotely questions or criticizes his holiness the barack obama is said, his supporters cover their ears and start saying "laa laa laa laaa laa laaa I can't hear you"

2/26/2008 Suge K. says:

or it was just poorly written

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

very possible suge

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2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

thank you Jeremy, I should have just said that

2/26/2008 Suge K. says:

i know what you meant. i just think you usually express yourself better.

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2/26/2008 CINDY K. says:

Put it this way - I'd like to vote for Obama - in 2012.  

"That's not change you can count on, that's change you can xerox."  - I don't see how that's a 'bitchy' statement - that's absolutely my problem with Obama.  Every public figure I can recall from the last few years from other quarters has touted themselves as different from the establishment, all about change......and then nuthin'.
I think you need to have worked the establishment and understand it from the inside out before you can change anything.

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

I think that she got flack for the Xerox comment because 1) it was awkward and not funny, and 2) because it was in regard to the her accusations of Obama's plagiarism, which for the most part have been discounted.  Again, she was guilty of doing something all politicians do, but because she is a woman it is termed "bitchy" rather than just "dumb".

The irony is that at the end of that debate (when Clinton made those kind remarks about being proud to stand beside Obama and that they'd both be "okay"), her words were nearly *identical*l to the words John Edwards had spoken a few weeks ago.

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

Barack Obama plagarized his kindergarten essay that said he wanted to be president.  One of my friend's who was in his actually in his class-- a guy by the name of Ned Rierson, said that Obama totally copied his essay.  Ned said it was his idea and dream to be president.  The five year old Barack, punched him, took Ned's essay and wrote his own name on it.  that's true

2/26/2008 Tsada K. says:

(see the second video in this link)
http://wonkette.com/35...

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

ahem, correction, it should say "one of my friends who was actually in his class"

2/26/2008 Devon "Completely Appropriate™" F. says:

Ned Rierson? Needle-nosed Ned?

PHIL? PHIL CONNORS? I thought it was you!

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2/26/2008 Jim D. says:

Now look at poor Ned. Having to sell insurance to make a living.

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

Ned who got the shingles so bad he couldn't go to senior prom

2/26/2008 Brian "A 'Space Cowboy' but rarely a 'Gangster of Love'" B. says:

My problem with Hillary, other than that I don't feel she's the best candidate, is that no Republican will vote for her. If you get your wish and she wins the nomination, that's as far as it goes. When the campaign against McCain starts and she's sticking with her 'experience' theme, it may come up once or twice that 8 years of a front row seat is not the same as playing the game.

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

My problem with Obama is that he beat up my friend Ned

2/26/2008 Gio "Lemme hear ya say GO!" G. says:

5 minutes ago Devon F. says:

Ned Rierson? Needle-nosed Ned?

PHIL? PHIL CONNORS? I thought it was you!
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BING!!!!!  BING AGAIN!!!!!

2/26/2008 Jim D. says:

Watch that first step, it's a duhooooozy

2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

Kevin, I wrote this review back in January:

http://www.yelp.com/bi...

I suppose I could be more specific.  I will try to get more to the point of my support.  For one thing, I admired her position:  "Clinton Announces Plan to Fight HIV/AIDS at Home and Abroad" written back in November.  She clearly and articulately spells out her approach to this grave issue.  I've worked in the public health field nearly my entire career, mostly in HIV/AIDS.  It is a cause dear to my heart.  So this is an important distinction from obama.

http://www.hillaryclin...

anywaz, I appreciate the level headed responses to this thread... Thanks all.  I will follow your lead.  CHEERIO!

2/26/2008 Kimberly O. says:

The thing that I like about Obama is that he gives me hope. As an Obama supporter, I've learned that besides being a misogynist, I'm (by definition) almost completely incapable of intelligent thought. This sets the bar very low. So when I'm able to accomplish a simple task like tying my shoes or brushing my teeth without choking myself, I feel a great sense of accomplishment. And that gives me hope.

2/26/2008 Laurel B. says:

http://www.alternet.or...

Obama's favorite television show is the Wire.

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2/26/2008 Bill "billtron" M. says:

Kevin the Musician Magician M. says:
I think our friend Kimberly might have posted at the exact moment that Jim agreed to play in a more civil sand-box.
: )
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lol....true

2/26/2008 Matt H. says:

Whoever loses, we win.  McCain 08!

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2/26/2008 Robert M. says:

Matt H. says:

Whoever loses, we win.  McCain 08!

That sort of says it all -- keep up the poor performance and petty bitching, Democrats. At one point I was completely okay with either Hillary or Barack (although prefer Hillary) after Edwards had the good sense to get out of the picture.  Not that I wanted him to drop out, I just can't see him mired in the current cesspool.  How can any of them maintain their dignity in this mess?  Can we please get Britney back so the politicians can go back to being boring?

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

Robert M:

That's why I don't think I'll be voting for a democrat this fall(and I have voted democrat on every election since 1996).  Democrats can be counted on for 'poor performance and petty bitching' at every turn.  I'm sick of it.  I'm tired of playing for a losing team that doesn't seem to understand that in a nation of 300 million, politics require compromise, and when push comes to shove, differences need to be put aside to build a winning coalition.  They missed the boat in 2000, and they'll do it again this time.  Say hello to president McCain.  There's no way enough Hillary supporters are going to support Obama and vice versa.  Job well done folks!

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

Wait, I guess I'm part of the problem then.  I don't care though.  I'm over it.

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

And I kind of like McCain

2/26/2008 Poochie "Oh! Oh! Oh!" M. says:

Says Jim who is Hillary's #1 fan...

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2/26/2008 Craig M. says:

Remember what happened when Teddy Roosevelt disagreed with the Republican party? He got the boot the next term.
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I thought that when he took over from McKinley and finished that term then won his own election he said, "I shall not seek another term". (Which according to his backers was stupid, because he could have run for a second separate term.) Therefore he set in motion intraparty fratricide to be the next nominee. When he was out of power he then 'tried to get back in' Bull Moose Party (a third party) which turned our to be as successful as most 3rd parties are. Am I right , wrong or somewhere in between?

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

Thanks Michael, but I'm very well informed on both politics and history and don't need a lecture.  Yeah T.R. and the bull moose party and it didn't do so well.  Get back to me in four years and we'll see how well Obama has done passing the liberal bills you want.  He will be another one term joke like Carter.

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

and the "same dark master?"  You're reading too much Harry Potter.  Is that why ardent convservatives hate him so much?  Limbaugh?  Coulter?  Is that why he was booed several weeks ago?  These are the people who are the dark forces, and he does not answer to them.  That's why they hate him.

2/26/2008 Gilberto "Fluffy Bunny" Y. says:

mccain is gwb's biotch.  he's had his pinky in dubya's belt loop for 7yrs.

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2/26/2008 Cornelius "indigomaster" S. says:

If you have Obama-fatigue then it's likely that you consume too much mass-media in the form of television, internets, periodicals etc. I suggest limiting yourself to 1 hr per day of such media and using the rest of your time to work on something productive.

2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

Alien vs. Predator
"Whoever wins, we lose"

2/26/2008 Perci "When God closes a door, he opens a dress" N. says:

Jesus baby-raping christ, Jim, freaking give it up. We've heard you the first 50 threads you started.

2/26/2008 Craig M. says:

Uh oh. how many thread starts are too many?

 *Thinking to myself get off yelp ya dumb ass,*

2/26/2008 Ted H. says:

I have arguing politics on discussion threads fatigue.  I blame the crab people

2/26/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

he he he he... let's count the anti-Clinton threads vs. the anti-obama threads...

it has always been my argument that the anti-Clinton threads are more mean-spirited and insulting... the anti-obama threads are... well... all mine I guess.  WHEEEE!

but anyway - vote early and vote often!

2/26/2008 Craig M. says:

"but anyway - vote early and vote often!" said Mayor Richard Daly, in the election of 1960.

His was such a power that apparently dead democrats got up to vote for Kennedy. Now that's some political pull. Obama's got nuttin on JFK.

2/28/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

http://www.hillaryclin...

...don't mean to be redundant.  Of course if you're interested, here is Clinton's economic plan.  Interesting stuff:

2/28/2008 Christopher S. says:

I've got Jim S. anti-Obama thread fatigue.

Give it a rest.  They're playing for the same team...

2/28/2008 Greg L. says:

Here's when I got Clinton fatigue:

COURIC: If its not you, how dissapointed will you be?

CLINTON: Well it will be me, but of course I'm ready to support the Democtratic nominee, whoever it is.

COURIC: I know that you're confident it's going to be you, but there is a possibility it won't be, and and clearly you're you
have thought about that possibility.

CLINTON: No, I haven't...

2/28/2008 A "Let Me Be Great!" A. says:

I had Obama and Hill fatigue last fall. Both are so fking annoying.  While I lean left, I find the DNC so painfully disorganized. The only way a Dem will be in the White House next year is if the republicans screw up badly.  It seems like it's going to be like the super bowl.
My prediction: Dems will lose this elections.  Republicans won't win it.  It will be handed to them on a silver platter.  I know the GOP is prepping those lovely smear campaigns as I type this.  Really, they should just save their money, step aside and let the Dems screw up.  I don't agree with essentially all the neo-con stances, particularly on social issues but for the most part, they are good at winning elections and don't shoot each other down in times of crisis.

2/28/2008 Sara "housewife without the husband" F. says:

ugh, please don't say that!

2/28/2008 Matt "i don't wear pants" P. says:

i have mountain's mississippi queen in my head and it won't stop.

2/28/2008 Poochie "Oh! Oh! Oh!" M. says:

Geez, this thread is still going???  Hillary is SO 1994!

2/28/2008 Matt "i don't wear pants" P. says:

http://www.last.fm/mus...

your welcome

2/28/2008 Donkey K. says:

Jim is gay, and like most gay people like Clinton for biased reasons.

Clinton has only been a disapointment in her campain, and even thou NYT is a huge supporter of her, and a darling of the democratic establishment, she just come as a divisive and opportunistic biatch, that changes her statements depends on what direction the wind (or polls) is going.

Instead of arguing in policies, she just argues on why obama is using other people's sentences in his speach.  That just shows petinness.  Argue on politics, what you will do for people, and why you will be better president  (except the I have more "experience" bull crap line), she hasn't shown much.

She is more of the old same.   Obama is a fresh change, and actually he is much more in tune with younger people.

Check out even Hillary's campain song,  it is horrible,   only old people would like this shit:
http://www.youtube.com...

2/28/2008 Donkey K. says:

Haha
http://www.youtube.com...

2/28/2008 Poochie "Oh! Oh! Oh!" M. says:

I'm gay and I hate her fucking guts!  OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!!!

2/28/2008 Poochie "Oh! Oh! Oh!" M. says:

FYI:  I could never hate anybody.  I'd still vote for her over McCain...

2/28/2008 Jim D. says:

http://www.breitbart.t...

2/28/2008 T "to the" C. says:

Jim -- it may have jumped the shark -- the Obama-backlash backlash! It's like Generation Y...

2/28/2008 Nat M. says:

Ted:
Hipsters may be cool, but they don't decide elections. Regular-ass people in the middle of America do. And they like Obama.

2/28/2008 Ron "Foreign & oily" K. says:

I will vote for Obama. Even if he does 50% of what  he says he will do as president, he will be much better than current president and other candidates.

2/28/2008 Tsada K. says:

Donkey K. says:

Jim is gay, and like most gay people like Clinton for biased reasons.

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Yes, but is he THE gay?

2/28/2008 Jim D. says:

12 minutes ago Ron "How did you get so cynical?" K. says:

I will vote for Obama. Even if he does 50% of what  he says he will do as president, he will be much better than current president and other candidates
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I think 50% is 90%more than you will get from any of them.

2/29/2008 Omid "The Rock, Skipper, Urban Zen Master" T. says:

Clinton:  "Could I just point out that, in the last several debates, I seem to get the first question all the time? And I don't mind."

Of course you don't, Hil. That's why you brought it up.  At least it takes Bush entire speeches to contradict himself, not just one line.

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

Donkey, It's nice to see you've lapped up the media non-news-opinions we;ve been forced fed about Clinton.  gulp gulp.

Clinton is such a policy-wonk and all she does is talk about policies and details and politics.  To her detriment because all the average person listens to is media 'headline grabbers" such as "shame on you Obama" and the whole Kenya-yada yada.

But at this point I'd be happy if people just voted instead of paying more attention to American Idol.  What is the percentage of eligible voters who actually vote?

And, for all you folks who are telling me to give it a break already... why?  Am I interrupting your little obama-pajama-party?  ooops, go ahead and drink up the snotty remarks and sidewards glances you're pretty-boy is making.  In my opinion obama is tired and phony who'll say anything to get votes.  He'll be in the pocket of the Reps in no time.

Omid, btw, I love your new photo, excellent...

2/29/2008 Nat M. says:

By "pocket of the Reps" do you mean he'll be taking kick-backs or actually be working with them to change current policies? Because Hillary's hatred of Republicans will ensure the latter won't happen...nor will it win her the election.

2/29/2008 Craig M. says:

02/26/2008 Jim "smiles like a donut" S. says:

If I have to hear his irritating "motivational speaker" voice for the next four years I'm gonna puke...
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If I have to hear HER screeching laughter for the next four years I'M GONNA PUKE

2/29/2008 Nat M. says:

Hillary Clinton laughs?

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

I guess we'll just have to be listening to McCain's clenched jaw home-spun jabber then huh?

In any case there be a whole lotta puking going on.

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

oh yeah Nat.. god, Clinton's got that irritating wicked witch from the west cackle!

2/29/2008 Craig M. says:

Then I suggest we all get mouth guards to protect our teeth from periodic acid explosion out of our mouths. I don't like the prospect of our teeth being eaten away because of our lame politicians.

2/29/2008 Heather "Silly Psyche" P. says:

I've been following him for years and I never get tired of him :)
OMG...I'm totally a political groupie!

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

i saw a shirtless obama picture recently...um...yuck.

2/29/2008 Poochie "Oh! Oh! Oh!" M. says:

And this just in:  http://news.yahoo.com/...

2/29/2008 Kartik G. says:

geez... can't there be ONE, just ONE place where I don't have to heart about how Clinton's got man cooties and how obama got bitchslapped by my homie's mama or how McCain's gonna be smokin' some sugacane in his grave.

Jeez Yelp. just cool. it.

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

ha ha ha... we were just laughing about this so-called "news" item today at work.  It is hilarious Poochie!

Some......may......according to....somebody....out there....who heard ... someone.... say something...um... I think....

Hilarious!  Yahoo "news" is so entertaining.

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

here is another Yahoo "news" item:

http://news.yahoo.com/...

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

at least this last one is from AP...

2/29/2008 Beau G. says:

Here you go Jim.   More photos:

http://wonkette.com/36...
http://wonkette.com/36...

2/29/2008 Beau G. says:

and one more

http://southsidestar.b...

2/29/2008 G "(keeping on the D)" L. says:

well just to be balanced:
http://www.rushlimbaug...
http://www.nohillarycl...
http://images.huffingt...

2/29/2008 Ringo B. says:

I'd take Bushie for another 4 over Borat Osama

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2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

awww baby obama... he was a cute baby!

and that Hill... was she a looker!

2/29/2008 Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:

obama is my age so i recognize the fashions and cars... he's a man of my era... but i still do not want "Barry" to be my president.  but, i guess i'll have to just accept it... sigh.