C U Next Tuesday

01/03/2008 James "Hilldawgs for McCain" B. says:

I agree, Skank is much classier.

01/03/2008 Jerry "cupcake me" M. says:

You mean "Cinderella, Lisa? Pot, meet kettle.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

We had a conversation about it the other day ... I said that I find it to be *the* most abhorrent word out there. But, well, I guess I miss the whole "it empowers me" thing.

I'm not a feminist, I guess.

01/03/2008 Hannah "good & dirty sweet spot" D. says:

2008 is the Year of the Cunt

Time to reclaim the year as our own, and all the assholes can bow down.

01/03/2008 Mandi G. says:

I personally don't get that offended by it and use it quite frequently when discussing other people.

It's definitley not in the same ballpark as the n-bomb.

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Cinderella is because I cook and clean a lot, and on the rare occasions I do get out, I can't stay out past midnight.

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01/03/2008 Deanna "nary" M. says:

I second Hannah, 2008 IS the Year of the Cunt!

"I call it cunt.  I've reclaimed it--cunt.  I really like it.  Cunt.  Listen to it.  Cunt."

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

OH G-D ... if there's one argument I have absolutely no tolerance for it's the "The word loses its ugliness the more it's used."

That is the biggest cop-out on the planet.

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

I see.  It's like gay people calling each other "faggot."  

It still seems sort of ...oogy.... though.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Lisa, I think we should reclaim all those horrible slurs against Jews! What do you say!?

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Sure, you big Kike.

01/03/2008 thomas n. says:

Like the world needs more word nazis telling us what we words should and shouldn't say. The "n word" is pure haterd towards people, cunt is just another word, don't lose your shit over it.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Seriously. The word Nazi means one thing. There are no grammar nazis or parking nazis or anything else nazis. Get with the program Thomas, before I'm forced to sock you.

So, are you saying though, that black people have not reclaimed the n word because it is pure hatred?

01/03/2008 Mandi G. says:

well said, Thomas, you daft cunt!

01/03/2008 Hannah "good & dirty sweet spot" D. says:

Should we have a "Claim Your Cunt" yelp event?

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01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

What up, mah Yid Lisa.

I swear, as a person with a passion for words, an editor and past etymologist as myself, I find people's logic and psychology behind why we should and shouldn't use certain words to be really asinine sometimes.

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01/03/2008 Brandie "Faerie Godmother" T. says:

Chaviva, I'm with you.  to me the C word is just as abhorrent as the N word.  

I simply cannot bear the sound of it -- sets my teeth on edge.  

call me old fashioned....

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Speaking of Yiddish, we throw around terms like "schmuck" and "putz," both words denoting male genitalia, with reckless abandon.  (And nobody is terribly offended).  Yet I don't believe there is a Yiddish word for lady parts.

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

Chaviva, I understand what you're saying, but on the same note, you've referred to things as "retarded" in your posts, which is just as offensive

I don't like the word cunt any more than many people, but I don't get my chones in a wad about seeing it typed on a screen. Unless it's towards me. Then you will die. The end.

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

and to think Jared got flagged for just being Jared...

01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

Throwing in a bag o' popcorn - hopefully the flagging nazis aren't out tonite ;- )

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01/03/2008 Kathy R. says:

D'Elited you just used the "n" word.

*flag*

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

Brandie-- I think that is absolutely ridiculous.  Cunt and n*gger, the same thing.  No.

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01/03/2008 MaryAnne "Suedes blue mohawk is up for debate as is his name" M. says:

In Ireland /England it's equilevent to saying bitch or shit

01/03/2008 thomas n. says:

Gee, sorry Chaviva. I don't agree you. The term is more than common in it's usage, you called the History Channel, the Hitler Channel, so where does it stop and start. I'm more than aware of what went on in WW2, and not in any way making light of it, simply saying I don't care to be edited by everyone who doen't like a fucking word.

01/03/2008 Barry J. says:

Lisa,

that would be your knish.

01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

When in Rome..........

munch munch munch.....

here we go..........

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

When I use the word retarded, I use it as it meant to be used -- slow or limited in mental development. I choose my words very carefully. I can think of once I have used the word "retarded" recently and it was in reference to the way people on Yelp sometimes act, or the way people in general act on the Internet. I was not likening people on the Internet to "mentally handicapped" persons but was implying that the internet makes us slow to judgement. I can tell you that in the news business among the AP style, it has been debated for years what words are preferred and in many circles and organizations, "retarded" is preferred over "mentally handicapped" or even "disabled," because "disabled" does not equate to "retarded."

I'm a word person. I can't help it. I find the C Word to be crude, vulgar, just an ugly word and a word that's unnecessary when there are plenty of other non-ugly or crude words for the female bits. Did you know that some of the earliest uses of the word "cunt" appeared as street designations for whores and prostitutes?

01/03/2008 MaryAnne "Suedes blue mohawk is up for debate as is his name" M. says:

I can't spell equivalent

01/03/2008 Nina L. says:

i hate the word cunt. absolutely hate it.

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Really, Barry?  Well, that's good to know...

01/03/2008 Brandie "Faerie Godmother" T. says:

didn't say they were the same thing.

they're both abhorrent.   I bristle when EITHER is used.  no matter WHO is using it.  I'm not trying to say they're the same!

01/03/2008 Mandi G. says:

I agree on the "retarded" thing, Rosie. That is one thing I think people throw around freely that I'm really not cool with.

And some people still really hate "bitch" but it eventually got mainstream. Words are just words, unless they are steeped in hate.

Cunt doesn't sound nearly as bad as gash to me for some reason.

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

like Chaviva, I think throwing the term nazi around is offensive.
I don't really care about tke c word, but I personally wouldn't throw that kind of language around online b/c you never know who reads this stuff.  I would hate for an employer or prospective employer or whatever to see that. *shrug*

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

jared would have liked this thread

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

RIP levar

01/03/2008 Daniel "You Drive A Hard Bargain..." T. says:

HAS EVERYONE LOST THEIR MIND?!

There, I feel better.

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

jareds mere appearance would have doomed the thread

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Ya'll gonna make me lose my mind, UP IN HERE UP IN HERE ...

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Mandi makes a good point.  "Bitch" used to be a serious insult, but it got used so much that it is almost meaningless.  At this rate, kids will be saying it on television in a decade or two.  Would that be a good thing?

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

that's what i'm hearing    
guess the flaggers better get busy deleting his old threads   it may take 1-2 weeks

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

Saying the C word I mean.

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01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

I think it's funny that people are referring to "n" words and "c" words - the other day, someone was referring to sex as "S."

They referred to a cop's gun in a local article as his "service weapon."  Can we not say "gun" anymore?

PC Police force is getting bigger and badder all da' time.

01/03/2008 Stephanie "Maneki Neko" M. says:

Twat? I cunt hair you.

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

Yes, Chaviva...what you meant by your 'retarded' post was "the internet makes people slow or limited in mental development
Conversely,  I believe Hanna 'external female genitalia ruled by her emotions *jingle* D. is not a raging cunt. She is simply not offended by it. Big deal

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

can we start debating ethnic slurs now...

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

How do those things make me a hypocrite exactly?

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

No let's keep talking about cunts. Cunt cunt cunt.

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

Dan, you think it is ok to use the n word?
you are gonna get your ass kicked one of these days then.

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

I didn't mean by me...I meant by someone at large

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

Sorry Chaviva, I don't think cunt is an offensive word.  Ugly, maybe.  I also don't like the phrase "roast beef."  Yuck.  But you can still say it.

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

oh for fuck sake    thanks for pointing that out bryan, i usually skip long posts
back in the day retards were called idiots - check your state's code books, it's in there

01/03/2008 Miss Constance "Golden Hands" H. says:

I thought this thread was going to be about Gwyneth Paltrow.

01/03/2008 Kathy R. says:

OK, I'm gonna put it out there.....  

     BOOGER

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01/03/2008 Deanna "nary" M. says:

I actually think that cunt is a glorious, aesthetically pleasing word.  But I'm fucked up.

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

then they became retarded, then disabled, then challenged, then special, then differently abled, then exceptional

who can keep up    good grief.

01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

Lauren - keep your shirt on.

I meant writing the "n" word or "c" word - it just sounds stupid.  Like putting an * in the middle of the word masks its ugliness?

01/03/2008 thomas n. says:

Max! Hell yes.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

I was defending my use of the word asinine by explaining the definition ... when I say people's excuses are asinine, I point to the idea the happy flower ponies point of view that if you say something enough and make it your own, then suddenly it's BEAUTIFUL!

01/03/2008 Ingrid "I Heart Jonathan Rosenbaum!" G. says:

Remember this one?

http://en.wikipedia.or...

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

Lauren, Dan's talking about your tits. FLAG

01/03/2008 Daniel "You Drive A Hard Bargain..." T. says:

Haha, poor jared...

01/03/2008 Barry J. says:

shmoya

pirgeh

pizda

those all sound pejorative. I like knish best. sort of onomatopoetic. "sklish." Plus it's a food. It means "box."

german: muschi, fotz. I prefer muschi. same logic.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Ahem, I meant "I was defending my use of the word retarded* ...."

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

Rosie, I am not much of a flagger.  Plus, who said my shirt was on? ;)

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

D'Elite'd D. says:

Lauren - keep your shirt on.
---

or not, either way

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

Isn't using the word "retarded" in a derogatory way the same as using the word "gay" in a derogatory way.  An otherwise neutral word used in a negative way.

(although, yes I know we don't don't use the word retarded in a clinical context anymore)

01/03/2008 Lisa "Yo Mama" B. says:

I could see it's use in certain contexts (i.e. "ooh baby, I want you to touch my.....")  but to call someone that is essentially saying you are nothing but a sexual part.  It takes away a woman's humanity and wholeness.  

Sorry to have gotten everyone upset.  Gotta go to bed now.  Play nice, kids.

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

Haha, Lauren!
You're alright

01/03/2008 Stephanie "Maneki Neko" M. says:

Miss Constance-- LMAO. That tickled me.

The guy that writes DListed calls her "Fish sticks." That cracks me up.

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

how many other see the hypocrisy in flagging Jared but letting this shit go on...

oh yeah...  cunt

01/03/2008 nikki c. says:

this is only the 3rd day of the year...and I have to put it out there...

this could possible be the best thread ever.

seriously, grown people respecting each others opinions on such a toxic and taboo subject. no hate, no malice, just straightforward discussion...

so far.

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01/03/2008 Kathy R. says:

D'Elite - I see your point about saying "'n' word" for Nazi and the like.

From now on, you shall refer to them as flagging members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

I miss Jared, though..I hope he comes back. Til then,
May He Rest In Cunt

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

it's not about content, craig
it's about which yelpers hate each other around this place

01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

@ Craig B.

Word.

But I bet it will be gone by morning.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

I guess I assume that when I say something in a certain context that people will be bright enough to digest that my usage of "retarded" is not made with malice or hate, but rather in a way that suggests people allow themselves to become slowed mentally by the Internet. On the reverse, I don't think you can do that with the C word. Gay, on the other hand, applies with the same principles as retarded does, does it not?

Sigh. Anyway, I guess this is a no-way conversation. I have my word principles, ya'll have yours. That's that.

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

i don't understand why they aren't flagging me    
jared is a nice guy -
i am a total asshole

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

But you wouldn't call some gay if they were being mentally slow, would you?

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

(People, witness how I continue to discuss the topic without going off topic despite the random, irrelevant comments!? IT CAN BE DONE!!!!!!! It's all for you, Nikki.)

01/03/2008 Koizumi Y. says:

Was Jared's account closed?

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Erica ... I don't get why you'd ask that. I would not call someone gay, no. I would say "I met this really nice couple the other day. They happen to be gay and are adopting a baby." I grew up in the generation of people saying "GAH! THAT IS SO GAY" ... and I would always correct people and speak out against it. It's a misuse of the word and is also derogatory.

Your question is ... I'm not sure what your question means.

01/03/2008 Kathy R. says:

Is the term "Indian giver" considered offensive to Native Americans?

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

not saying you are unprincipled, chaviva
but i'd be happy to say don't trip over yourself trying to be so PC!

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

not when i was a kid, kathy
but back then we told polack jokes

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Believe me ... I'm not as uptight as I might be appearing ... I just ... love words.

And Kathy: Yes. It's also why you don't call police trucks "Paddy Wagons" anymore.

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

I guess my question is: Why is it OK to say something's "retarded" if it bothers you when it is so clearly wrong to use words like "gay" in a derogatory manner.  I think it is one and the same.

01/03/2008 Rosie V. says:

Koizumi, apparently, something happened this afternoon that caused him to pull his photos but his reviews are still there...not sure, since I, you know, WORK during the day

That was an enjoyable burst of pent up "Gasp! You Can't Say THAT On Yelp!"

'night-

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

according to my native american friends, Kathy, yes, it is.

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

Um ... retarded can be used in its legitimate meaning as well as in a derogatory matter, the same as the word gay. Your comments aren't making any sense to me. I was saying the Internet makes people retarded, but was not saying it with malice or to be derogatory ...

Maybe I'm just tired. But likewise, couldn't it be said that the mentally handicapped/disabled can RECLAIM the word retarded!? Just like the word faggot or cunt or bitch or the "n" word?

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01/03/2008 Koizumi Y. says:

Thanks, Rosie -- I seem to have missed the pulled threads and flagging fest as well. Not a big deal; merely curious as it keeps coming up.....

01/03/2008 Erica A. says:

Hrmm...I guess we won't get anywhere on this.  Surprise!

So a cunt walks into a bar...

01/03/2008 Mr. Yelpitude .. says:

ok i have started a separate thread so as not to derail this retarded discussion

01/03/2008 Chaviva "Intertextuality" E. says:

I'm heading to bed. But I just want to conclude by saying this: As I believe about religion and political beliefs and all that other junk, people are born with the right to believe and say what they like. In my opinion, words like "cunt" are rude and vulgar and I could go without the word the rest of m life and be all the better for it. But if people want to say words like cunt or the n word or whatever, be my guest. They are on the bottom of the vocabulary chain in my mind and are treated as such.

But it's a free world, where people can say and do what they like. And I'm glad to be in that world. So carry on all you empowered folks :) I'm proud of you for owning it. Just try not to issue those words around me, mmk? Out of respect and stuff.

01/03/2008 Xtie "Gen. X" G. says:

I still call them paddy wagons...

and as far as "cunt" is concerned, it's a word I find particularly powerful when referring to a particularly offensive man

01/03/2008 John "Ceci n'est pas une nickname" B. says:

Oh Xtie, you're such a prick.

01/03/2008 Craig "hold my beer and watch this" B. says:

paddy wagons aren't near as fun when you are on the inside looking out....

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01/03/2008 Kathy R. says:

Never really thought about the offensiveness of "paddy wagon." Only know that cops don't like to be called pigs.

01/03/2008 D'Elited D. says:

Words evolve over time and have multiple meanings - the context in which you use a term or word, and if you use it properly, is what should be evaluated.

According to the dictionary - and this is just one example - look up retarded, nazi, and the other words for yourself that people get offended by:

Gay means merry, joyous, bright, lively - along with 19 other things - and yes, homosexual is one of them obviously.

I think a lot of people overlook the context of how a word is used and just jump on the PC bandwagon because lawyers and the media have brainwashed you into thinking that you should be offended when you hear certain words.

And when I say "you" - I am not referring to anyone specifically - just people in general.

01/03/2008 Geovanny "The Infamous Penguin" N. says:

The thing about words is that for most cases is that we all look at it different. We all get offended with so many different words. For my part I try to respect that but I can't stop or lecture someone else on how to use there words. I can only say Live Free & Live Wild!

01/03/2008 Iris S. says:

I was actually reviewing today and came in late to this thread, but I find it amusing.
Please don't flag it on me.

01/03/2008 Lauren "Order" H. says:

Dan, I can only speak for myself, but I get PC when I am or see people offended by the use of a term in a derogatory fashion.  When I hear people use the word gay to imply it is an insult or that there is something wrong with being gay, I will speak up, because I know it hurts people I care about.  I know parents who have retarded children and see how hurt they get when that term is thrown around as well, so I try to curb that when I hear it too.  Maybe I am oversenstive, but I would rather choose another word if I can.

01/03/2008 Xtie "Gen. X" G. says:

John B:  why thank you!!!

Craig: ain't THAT the ugly truth!

D'Elited: you forgot one - a "faggot" is a bundle of sticks