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Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
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1/18/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
A friend said to me last night, "Why did no one tell me that when I moved to NYC I'd have so many more boogers?!"
And I thought two things... first off she's right - I have more junk caught up in my nose than I did pre-Manhattan (dirty city that it is), and secondly - what else should we be warned about upon making the decision to come here?
I also would like to warn you that just because that patch of pavement, curb or step looks clean, that doesn't mean that someone wasn't puking there a few hours ago.
A friend said to me last night, "Why did no one tell me that when I moved to NYC I'd have so many more boogers?!"
And I thought two things... first off she's right - I have more junk caught up in my nose than I did pre-Manhattan (dirty city that it is), and secondly - what else should we be warned about upon making the decision to come here?
I also would like to warn you that just because that patch of pavement, curb or step looks clean, that doesn't mean that someone wasn't puking there a few hours ago.
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1/18/2008
R "Meat baby" P. says:
don't pick up "female" prostitutes between 14th and 30th Streets on the westside.
don't pick up "female" prostitutes between 14th and 30th Streets on the westside.
1/18/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
That isn't mud on your shoe. Ever.
Also I wish someone had told me how sick I would get here. When I first moved to the city it was like I was fighting off a cold or stomach virus every six weeks. Now it's better--yay for a supercharged immune system.
That isn't mud on your shoe. Ever.
Also I wish someone had told me how sick I would get here. When I first moved to the city it was like I was fighting off a cold or stomach virus every six weeks. Now it's better--yay for a supercharged immune system.
1/18/2008
Kaelea "Crack Fox" A. says:
don't live with your boyfriend who "USED" to be a ballerina mime.
don't live with your boyfriend who "USED" to be a ballerina mime.
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1/18/2008
JP B. says:
The boogers thing is not just because the air here is less clean than in other places. NYC apartments are very dry in the winter. Like CRAZY dry. I keep three humidifiers running in mine all winter just to keep my guitars from splintering into firewood. Keeps the boogers to a minimum as well.
The boogers thing is not just because the air here is less clean than in other places. NYC apartments are very dry in the winter. Like CRAZY dry. I keep three humidifiers running in mine all winter just to keep my guitars from splintering into firewood. Keeps the boogers to a minimum as well.
1/18/2008
Steven "Team Snarky™" V. says:
Exploding streets
Mystery odors
Potholes of doom
Everything is under construction always
Donald Trump will try to kill you
Exploding streets
Mystery odors
Potholes of doom
Everything is under construction always
Donald Trump will try to kill you
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1/18/2008
R "Meat baby" P. says:
don't tell the guys talking in the movie theater to "Shut the fuck up."
don't tell the guys talking in the movie theater to "Shut the fuck up."
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1/18/2008
R "Meat baby" P. says:
don't tell an emergency room doctor that you don't have insurance and that the pain is not that bad.
don't tell an emergency room doctor that you don't have insurance and that the pain is not that bad.
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1/18/2008
Mindy Z. says:
That air conditioners leak on you if you walk too close to the buildings...it took around five times of getting dripped on for me to learn my lesson.
Don't look people in the eye (i've mastered this now)
You have to actually pick up your feet when you walk...the pavement and sidewalks aren't always flat.
That air conditioners leak on you if you walk too close to the buildings...it took around five times of getting dripped on for me to learn my lesson.
Don't look people in the eye (i've mastered this now)
You have to actually pick up your feet when you walk...the pavement and sidewalks aren't always flat.
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1/18/2008
Anna L. says:
- separate downtown and uptown train entrances, that somehow become apparent only after you swiped your metrocard
- cabs -- when the number on top is lit up - it's empty, when it's not - someone is in there, and when the whole thing is on - it's off duty
- when a subway car is significantly emptier during rush hour than all the others, it's for one of two reasons: there is a smelly bum stinking up the place, or the AC is broken
- that 5 dollars for a pint of domestic beer is totally reasonable
- separate downtown and uptown train entrances, that somehow become apparent only after you swiped your metrocard
- cabs -- when the number on top is lit up - it's empty, when it's not - someone is in there, and when the whole thing is on - it's off duty
- when a subway car is significantly emptier during rush hour than all the others, it's for one of two reasons: there is a smelly bum stinking up the place, or the AC is broken
- that 5 dollars for a pint of domestic beer is totally reasonable
1/18/2008
JoJo "the Jo-jitsu Master" C. says:
you will live in a shoebox and/or pay a smal fortune in rent
you will have roommates and/or pay a small fortune in rent
people will molest you if you fall asleep on the train - and sometimes even if you don't fall asleep
you will live in a shoebox and/or pay a smal fortune in rent
you will have roommates and/or pay a small fortune in rent
people will molest you if you fall asleep on the train - and sometimes even if you don't fall asleep
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
The gutters have a slight green slime known as garbage juice. It's from stores and restaurants putting their trashbags on the curbs late at night (there are no back alleys for trash pickup). So wear flip flops at your own risk.
The gutters have a slight green slime known as garbage juice. It's from stores and restaurants putting their trashbags on the curbs late at night (there are no back alleys for trash pickup). So wear flip flops at your own risk.
1/18/2008
JoJo "the Jo-jitsu Master" C. says:
RATS: there are lots of them - they might be in your new apartment
BEDBUGS are a problem - if you get them you'll be screwed!
RATS: there are lots of them - they might be in your new apartment
BEDBUGS are a problem - if you get them you'll be screwed!
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
the subway lines are repaired on the weekend, so there are often long delays and sometimes whole lines are shut down (midnight to 5 am)
sucks if your're trying to get back to brooklyn on a saturday night and you have to take the other, really slow line that gets you nowhere near your aparment
the subway lines are repaired on the weekend, so there are often long delays and sometimes whole lines are shut down (midnight to 5 am)
sucks if your're trying to get back to brooklyn on a saturday night and you have to take the other, really slow line that gets you nowhere near your aparment
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1/18/2008
Koku "stretch LMAOzine" K. says:
There are these huge metal plates in the street. Sometimes there are also these live wires. Rarer, someone gets electrocuted and dies from stepping on them.
You can walk over the grates; it's fine. Although there was that one woman who fell 10 feet through the sidewalk grate into a transformer vault. She's chillin.
I've never seen anyone fall into a cellar, but you'd probably be better off walking around the cellar doors.
There are these huge metal plates in the street. Sometimes there are also these live wires. Rarer, someone gets electrocuted and dies from stepping on them.
You can walk over the grates; it's fine. Although there was that one woman who fell 10 feet through the sidewalk grate into a transformer vault. She's chillin.
I've never seen anyone fall into a cellar, but you'd probably be better off walking around the cellar doors.
1/18/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
you can know what part of the corner you are standing on and what direction you exit the subway from, if you pay attention to the SW-NW-SE-NE directional signs near the exits. Saves time staring up and down the street trying to read the street signs before taking off in a particular direction.
you can know what part of the corner you are standing on and what direction you exit the subway from, if you pay attention to the SW-NW-SE-NE directional signs near the exits. Saves time staring up and down the street trying to read the street signs before taking off in a particular direction.
1/18/2008
Max "Mugged by the Hamburglar" S. says:
* Cart food is not only fresh & clean - it's also very healthy for you and a great way to save your money if you can't cook.
* You don't have to look both ways when crossing a 1-way street
* It's okay to cross on red
* Cart food is not only fresh & clean - it's also very healthy for you and a great way to save your money if you can't cook.
* You don't have to look both ways when crossing a 1-way street
* It's okay to cross on red
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1/18/2008
Jennifer "all murried up" S. says:
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1/18/2008
Koku "stretch LMAOzine" K. says:
Avenue blocks are longer than street blocks. In fact, here it is explained:
"So walking from 42nd Street & 1st Avenue to 42nd Street & 3rd Avenue (2 Avenue blocks) is much longer than walking from 42nd Street & 1st Avenue to 44th Street & 1st Avenue (2 Street blocks).
I've been told that for the numbered streets, 20 blocks = 1 mile. For the avenues, a "short" avenue block = 2 street blocks, and a "long" avenue block = 4 street blocks. "Short" blocks include Fifth Ave to Madison, Mad to Park, Park to Lex, and Lex to Third. The rest are "long."
Another Webpage put it this way: 20 street blocks = 1 mile and 4 avenue blocks = 1 mile, but they didn't distiguish between short and long avenues. This also indicates that 1 avenue block = 5 street blocks, so who knows what the ratio really is.
BTW, I think the Avenue blocks on the west side are longer than the Avenue blocks on the east side. They seem it anyway! For example, it seems like the distance between 6th Ave & 7th Ave is longer than the distance between 1st Ave & 2nd Ave. But maybe that's just me."
source: http://www.vnsn.com/ne...
Avenue blocks are longer than street blocks. In fact, here it is explained:
"So walking from 42nd Street & 1st Avenue to 42nd Street & 3rd Avenue (2 Avenue blocks) is much longer than walking from 42nd Street & 1st Avenue to 44th Street & 1st Avenue (2 Street blocks).
I've been told that for the numbered streets, 20 blocks = 1 mile. For the avenues, a "short" avenue block = 2 street blocks, and a "long" avenue block = 4 street blocks. "Short" blocks include Fifth Ave to Madison, Mad to Park, Park to Lex, and Lex to Third. The rest are "long."
Another Webpage put it this way: 20 street blocks = 1 mile and 4 avenue blocks = 1 mile, but they didn't distiguish between short and long avenues. This also indicates that 1 avenue block = 5 street blocks, so who knows what the ratio really is.
BTW, I think the Avenue blocks on the west side are longer than the Avenue blocks on the east side. They seem it anyway! For example, it seems like the distance between 6th Ave & 7th Ave is longer than the distance between 1st Ave & 2nd Ave. But maybe that's just me."
source: http://www.vnsn.com/ne...
1/18/2008
Chris "Film by Uwe Boll" H. says:
If a restaurant or store special is too good to be true, it probably is. I'm looking at you, Curry Row restaurants.
If a restaurant or store special is too good to be true, it probably is. I'm looking at you, Curry Row restaurants.
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1/18/2008
Anwar "The Infidel" A. says:
Well I grew up here and still can't figure out cross streets if I'm only given the building #. Who the hell can????
Well I grew up here and still can't figure out cross streets if I'm only given the building #. Who the hell can????
1/18/2008
Max "Esq. in training" M. says:
for $37, that steak doesn't not come with a side.
Happy hours do exist on Saturdays.
someone already said it (Anna) but it is worth repeating, empty subway car is not a good thing.
for $37, that steak doesn't not come with a side.
Happy hours do exist on Saturdays.
someone already said it (Anna) but it is worth repeating, empty subway car is not a good thing.
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1/18/2008
Joolie "mzjoolz if you're nasty!" T. says:
as much as people advertise NY is "The city that never sleeps" is pure bullsh*t, ca ca, poo poo.
only people i see up all night are my fellow Korean Killaz in K-Town. almost everything is open 24/7. tis ALL. it's truly disappointing.
i totally agree with the booger thing.
also, my face feels grimey when i get home (like tiny dirt particles) from the polluted air and debris from subways/buses/cars/etc. yuck.
as much as people advertise NY is "The city that never sleeps" is pure bullsh*t, ca ca, poo poo.
only people i see up all night are my fellow Korean Killaz in K-Town. almost everything is open 24/7. tis ALL. it's truly disappointing.
i totally agree with the booger thing.
also, my face feels grimey when i get home (like tiny dirt particles) from the polluted air and debris from subways/buses/cars/etc. yuck.
1/18/2008
Kate "the present king of france" T. says:
don't feel guilty about totally ignoring the people trying to shove a leaflet into your hand as you pass them on the sidewalk.
don't feel guilty about totally ignoring the people trying to shove a leaflet into your hand as you pass them on the sidewalk.
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
"The even numbered streets go east, the odd numbered ones go west."
good one (although there are lots of exceptions, e.g. E. 60th Street goes west, as does 61st)
"The even numbered streets go east, the odd numbered ones go west."
good one (although there are lots of exceptions, e.g. E. 60th Street goes west, as does 61st)
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
Streets are "East" or "West" depending on whether they're east or west of 5th Avenue, with building numbers getting higher the further you get from 5th ave. So 650 W. 42nd St is so far west it is practically in the hudson, and 600 E. 42nd is so far east, it is practically in the east river (NB: 5th Avenue doesn't go below 14th St, so I have no idea what the rule for East-West is below there, but then again, West 10th and West 4th streets cross each other, so it's all screwed up down there).
Streets are "East" or "West" depending on whether they're east or west of 5th Avenue, with building numbers getting higher the further you get from 5th ave. So 650 W. 42nd St is so far west it is practically in the hudson, and 600 E. 42nd is so far east, it is practically in the east river (NB: 5th Avenue doesn't go below 14th St, so I have no idea what the rule for East-West is below there, but then again, West 10th and West 4th streets cross each other, so it's all screwed up down there).
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1/18/2008
Colum B. says:
And I totally agree re the sinus/booger/cold thing - but as I am getting to the end of my first year I am starting to feel better too.
And I totally agree re the sinus/booger/cold thing - but as I am getting to the end of my first year I am starting to feel better too.
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
The wider, two-lane cross streets of the Manhattan grid are 14th, 23rd, 34th, 42nd, 57th, 72nd, 86th, 96th, 106th, 116th, 125th, 135th, 145th and 155th Streets.
Seems random.
For the most part, though, these were determined by where the ancient Native American footpath that became Broadway crosses a north-south Avenue.
The "Squares" of New York exist at each of these intersections.
Broadway crosses:
4th Ave, aka at 14th (Union Square)
5th Ave at 23rd (Madison Square)
6th Ave at 34th (Herald Square)
7th Ave at 42nd (Times Square)
8th Ave at 57th (Columbus Circle)(was moved to 59th when the park was put in)
10th Ave, aka Amsterdam Ave, at 72nd (Verdi Square)
Don't ask me why they skipped 9th Ave, or what's going on above 72nd - they probably just wanted to space things out more or less evenly
The wider, two-lane cross streets of the Manhattan grid are 14th, 23rd, 34th, 42nd, 57th, 72nd, 86th, 96th, 106th, 116th, 125th, 135th, 145th and 155th Streets.
Seems random.
For the most part, though, these were determined by where the ancient Native American footpath that became Broadway crosses a north-south Avenue.
The "Squares" of New York exist at each of these intersections.
Broadway crosses:
4th Ave, aka at 14th (Union Square)
5th Ave at 23rd (Madison Square)
6th Ave at 34th (Herald Square)
7th Ave at 42nd (Times Square)
8th Ave at 57th (Columbus Circle)(was moved to 59th when the park was put in)
10th Ave, aka Amsterdam Ave, at 72nd (Verdi Square)
Don't ask me why they skipped 9th Ave, or what's going on above 72nd - they probably just wanted to space things out more or less evenly
1/18/2008
Fabian T. says:
Don't live on a parade route.
Living in Little Italy - nice.
Living in Little Italy during the San Gennaro Festival - not so nice.
Don't live on a parade route.
Living in Little Italy - nice.
Living in Little Italy during the San Gennaro Festival - not so nice.
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1/18/2008
Max "Mugged by the Hamburglar" S. says:
There is no such thing as a cashmere scarf/gloves/hat/anything for $5 or $10.
There is no such thing as a cashmere scarf/gloves/hat/anything for $5 or $10.
1/18/2008
Jonathan "JWeg" W. says:
That there are plenty of parks and places to exercise and bike and run outside. That though manhattan is an island, it's large enough that you won't notice and won't feel claustrophobic. I had imagined the city as a but of a cement prison/pressure cooker before i moved here..
That there are plenty of parks and places to exercise and bike and run outside. That though manhattan is an island, it's large enough that you won't notice and won't feel claustrophobic. I had imagined the city as a but of a cement prison/pressure cooker before i moved here..
1/18/2008
Olivia "soon to be Mrs." G. says:
please don't carry your mega large umbrella when you're out for a day of shopping.
bring something to read or look at while you're on the train.
don't bother racing for a seat on the train when your stop is next.
let the people off the train before you go running inside.
give the man/woman in the conductor car a smile and they won't slam the door on you. (works for me anyway)
don't expect to get a seat if your with-child or with a child.
don't ask the person looking on the subway map if they know how to get where you're going.
please don't carry your mega large umbrella when you're out for a day of shopping.
bring something to read or look at while you're on the train.
don't bother racing for a seat on the train when your stop is next.
let the people off the train before you go running inside.
give the man/woman in the conductor car a smile and they won't slam the door on you. (works for me anyway)
don't expect to get a seat if your with-child or with a child.
don't ask the person looking on the subway map if they know how to get where you're going.
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1/18/2008
Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Don't move here it is already over populated and way too expensive. Oh and roaches are everywhere,
Don't move here it is already over populated and way too expensive. Oh and roaches are everywhere,
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1/18/2008
bill "ddog" b. says:
I lived through 9/11 and left very disenchanted. I wanna come back, kinda. What's it like now? Good idea or bad idea?
I lived through 9/11 and left very disenchanted. I wanna come back, kinda. What's it like now? Good idea or bad idea?
1/18/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
you will look forward to the high holy days, and know in advance when they fall on the calendar, because you know half your office will be out and no work will get done for two weeks (at least if you're a lawyer but probably in a number of other fields as well)
you will think it's totally normal to make plans to meet someone somewhere at 1 am, "just when it's starting to get a little busy"
you will start to say "can I get" instead of "may I please have" and think it sounds normal. You might even say "stand on line" if you have really gone native.
you will think it's totally normally to have to visit your storage locker every two weeks to get that outfit you stored there, or the other vacuum cleaner, or your good hiking shoes, and you will pay $150 a month in some dodgy area that requires a $15 cab ride to get to
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
you will look forward to the high holy days, and know in advance when they fall on the calendar, because you know half your office will be out and no work will get done for two weeks (at least if you're a lawyer but probably in a number of other fields as well)
you will think it's totally normal to make plans to meet someone somewhere at 1 am, "just when it's starting to get a little busy"
you will start to say "can I get" instead of "may I please have" and think it sounds normal. You might even say "stand on line" if you have really gone native.
you will think it's totally normally to have to visit your storage locker every two weeks to get that outfit you stored there, or the other vacuum cleaner, or your good hiking shoes, and you will pay $150 a month in some dodgy area that requires a $15 cab ride to get to
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1/18/2008
Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
@ Bill. NYC is over populated and housing ( rents ) are astronomical. Europeans are buying -we are dying. Lots of luxury 2 million + condos going up on the bowery and Hell's Kitchen. Unless you're loaded........................ ........................
Good site http://www.curbed.com
@ Bill. NYC is over populated and housing ( rents ) are astronomical. Europeans are buying -we are dying. Lots of luxury 2 million + condos going up on the bowery and Hell's Kitchen. Unless you're loaded........................ ........................
Good site http://www.curbed.com
1/18/2008
Joanna L. says:
-A walk-up means exactly what it sounds like... a walk-up. Moving furniture up 3 flights of stairs was hell.
-Your upper-middle class childhood home in Michigan will seem like a sprawling mansion after moving to NYC for the first time for your first job... I practically live in a shoebox.
-If you weren't materialistic before you moved here... you may become materialistic and brand-oriented after.... All I see when I go home are GUCCI, CHANEL, PRADA... and it makes me feel oh so poor.
-Don't expect the same prices for groceries as you'd find outside of the city... $10 for a baby watermelon!?!? Are you kidding me!?
-Walking everywhere is not as bad as it looks/sounds. 10 (street) blocks is not a lot. Even 20 blocks is not a lot. It sounds a lot, but don't be fooled... or you could be out of shape...
-A walk-up means exactly what it sounds like... a walk-up. Moving furniture up 3 flights of stairs was hell.
-Your upper-middle class childhood home in Michigan will seem like a sprawling mansion after moving to NYC for the first time for your first job... I practically live in a shoebox.
-If you weren't materialistic before you moved here... you may become materialistic and brand-oriented after.... All I see when I go home are GUCCI, CHANEL, PRADA... and it makes me feel oh so poor.
-Don't expect the same prices for groceries as you'd find outside of the city... $10 for a baby watermelon!?!? Are you kidding me!?
-Walking everywhere is not as bad as it looks/sounds. 10 (street) blocks is not a lot. Even 20 blocks is not a lot. It sounds a lot, but don't be fooled... or you could be out of shape...
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1/18/2008
Emily S. says:
1. you will see something very very terrible and sad - possibly about once a week (daily?) - which will shake you. (like the guy at jay street borough hall station who is almost dead, i would say, practically dripping mucous and blood and can't hold his dirty sweatpants up - i've seen him a couple times and have been reconsidering previous thoughts of raising my children in an urban environment.
2. do NOT economize on rent. you're not smart. you will get mugged. i personally know 3 people who were mugged. now they pay 200-300 dollars more. (unless you've somehow managed to pay 600 for a room in great apartment on 7th avenue, p slope - like someone i know, but then you are very special and exceptional and it's not even fair)
3. try to be early rather than "on time" - there WILL be a problem with the trains.
4. people you don't want to talk to you won't if you don't look at them.
5. people you WANT to talk to you won't.
6. ipods - very good or very bad things depending on the types - see #4 and 5 - of people who surround you.
7. do NOT wear flip flops beach shoes in the city far from home base. it WILL rain, you will slip on the slippery sidewalks, your feet will be NASTY when you get home. the rain is relaxing, therapeutic in other cities. in nyc it's disgusting.
8. taxis are not easy to find when it's snowing and 3 am and you're wearing party shoes. on a sunny afternoon in july, they are everywhere.
1. you will see something very very terrible and sad - possibly about once a week (daily?) - which will shake you. (like the guy at jay street borough hall station who is almost dead, i would say, practically dripping mucous and blood and can't hold his dirty sweatpants up - i've seen him a couple times and have been reconsidering previous thoughts of raising my children in an urban environment.
2. do NOT economize on rent. you're not smart. you will get mugged. i personally know 3 people who were mugged. now they pay 200-300 dollars more. (unless you've somehow managed to pay 600 for a room in great apartment on 7th avenue, p slope - like someone i know, but then you are very special and exceptional and it's not even fair)
3. try to be early rather than "on time" - there WILL be a problem with the trains.
4. people you don't want to talk to you won't if you don't look at them.
5. people you WANT to talk to you won't.
6. ipods - very good or very bad things depending on the types - see #4 and 5 - of people who surround you.
7. do NOT wear flip flops beach shoes in the city far from home base. it WILL rain, you will slip on the slippery sidewalks, your feet will be NASTY when you get home. the rain is relaxing, therapeutic in other cities. in nyc it's disgusting.
8. taxis are not easy to find when it's snowing and 3 am and you're wearing party shoes. on a sunny afternoon in july, they are everywhere.
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Emily S. says:
if you say "hello" and "goodbye" and "thank you" people will ask you if you're from the midwest.
they like it dirty. "it's supposed to be dirty. it's nyc."
if you say "hello" and "goodbye" and "thank you" people will ask you if you're from the midwest.
they like it dirty. "it's supposed to be dirty. it's nyc."
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1/18/2008
Quinn "Hussein" R. says:
DO NOT TURN RIGHT ON RED.
For that matter, do not bring your car. All you'll need is a metrocard and maybe a bicycle.
DO NOT TURN RIGHT ON RED.
For that matter, do not bring your car. All you'll need is a metrocard and maybe a bicycle.
1/19/2008
lynn "conchita" n. says:
Just 3 things:
1. The lovely senior citizen couple sitting next to you in your neighborhood diner are just as likely to cuss at you as any random teenager on the sidewalk;
2. Everyone has an piss poor attitude; and
3. Expect to pay over $5.00 for a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
Just 3 things:
1. The lovely senior citizen couple sitting next to you in your neighborhood diner are just as likely to cuss at you as any random teenager on the sidewalk;
2. Everyone has an piss poor attitude; and
3. Expect to pay over $5.00 for a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
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Phil "Redsox Nation" M. says:
Dont expect there NOT to be a bumb drooling (or something else) on your stoop when you wake up just because you pay $4000 a month to live in your building.
Also, Get in the cab fully with doors closed before you tell him you want to go to a place somewhere else far from the city. He cant refuse, and if he does, ask for his hack license - you'll be there in no time!
Dont expect there NOT to be a bumb drooling (or something else) on your stoop when you wake up just because you pay $4000 a month to live in your building.
Also, Get in the cab fully with doors closed before you tell him you want to go to a place somewhere else far from the city. He cant refuse, and if he does, ask for his hack license - you'll be there in no time!
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1/19/2008
Emily S. says:
carrie - that's just it.... the trick with new yorkers (and i am not one) is that they adore their own filth. it makes for the "charm" of the place.
there's this old guy who lives in my building - where i pay, i might add, a sizable amount for a studio. and he's supposed to take out the garbage and recycling, which he does. but he GOES THROUGH IT and salvages things which he then puts on the stairs. so it mounted and mounted and mounted for months all the way up the stairs - i bitched about it with various sympathetic new yorker neighbors....
then, finally, because i had a lot of other important shit to do and think about - i called the landlord and said if it wasn't gone in 2 hours i was putting it all on the sidewalk myself. AND i said, AND i quote, in best Good Girl From the Midwest Voice, "I'm sorry, but I'm not from New York and We Just Don't Do Things like this in the Midwest...."
it was NOT gone in 2 hours, so i put it all into garbage bags, put it outside and cleaned the stairs. not a peep from anyone since and the place has remained clean -
you can discipline small parts of nyc - don't worry. and don't let that "it's-filthy-and--we-love-it" thing intimidate you....
carrie - that's just it.... the trick with new yorkers (and i am not one) is that they adore their own filth. it makes for the "charm" of the place.
there's this old guy who lives in my building - where i pay, i might add, a sizable amount for a studio. and he's supposed to take out the garbage and recycling, which he does. but he GOES THROUGH IT and salvages things which he then puts on the stairs. so it mounted and mounted and mounted for months all the way up the stairs - i bitched about it with various sympathetic new yorker neighbors....
then, finally, because i had a lot of other important shit to do and think about - i called the landlord and said if it wasn't gone in 2 hours i was putting it all on the sidewalk myself. AND i said, AND i quote, in best Good Girl From the Midwest Voice, "I'm sorry, but I'm not from New York and We Just Don't Do Things like this in the Midwest...."
it was NOT gone in 2 hours, so i put it all into garbage bags, put it outside and cleaned the stairs. not a peep from anyone since and the place has remained clean -
you can discipline small parts of nyc - don't worry. and don't let that "it's-filthy-and--we-love-it" thing intimidate you....
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Emily S. says:
i mean fuck it - we were paying the MOST RIDICULOUS amount of money to live in that building - the stairwell of which looks like that of an abandoned middle school in the south bronx ANYWAY - or in the ukraine or something - i mean not REAL CLASS, let's say... and then our crap is lining the stairs like some sort of squat - like i found an old NAIL FILE of mine which i threw out. i think the nail file was the last straw....
i mean fuck it - we were paying the MOST RIDICULOUS amount of money to live in that building - the stairwell of which looks like that of an abandoned middle school in the south bronx ANYWAY - or in the ukraine or something - i mean not REAL CLASS, let's say... and then our crap is lining the stairs like some sort of squat - like i found an old NAIL FILE of mine which i threw out. i think the nail file was the last straw....
1/19/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
I still say "Hello" and "Goodbye" and "Thank you" and even "Please" because I am civilized. I don't care if it indicates I'm not from New York--in that regard, I'm a proud Okie.
I don't make eye contact with people or smile back at them though. Helloooo, tourist!
I still say "Hello" and "Goodbye" and "Thank you" and even "Please" because I am civilized. I don't care if it indicates I'm not from New York--in that regard, I'm a proud Okie.
I don't make eye contact with people or smile back at them though. Helloooo, tourist!
1/19/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
I love NY. I wish people had told me how great a solo sunny Sat afternoon can be when walking around Chelsea to all the galleries sipping deli coffee, then stopping at better burger for lunch before hitting up Reminiscece to pick up some fun retro/funny/awesome crap I dont need but love.
I am so off to do that now! Yay!
I love NY. I wish people had told me how great a solo sunny Sat afternoon can be when walking around Chelsea to all the galleries sipping deli coffee, then stopping at better burger for lunch before hitting up Reminiscece to pick up some fun retro/funny/awesome crap I dont need but love.
I am so off to do that now! Yay!
1/19/2008
Srini "®" V. says:
Perhaps I should have been told that --
Anything one does in New York, be it is photography, banking, picking one's nose or someone's pocket, there is always a bunch of people who do it much better than you.
Perhaps I should have been told that --
Anything one does in New York, be it is photography, banking, picking one's nose or someone's pocket, there is always a bunch of people who do it much better than you.
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Richard H. says:
Don't expect people to have manners. Even if you're an old lady or a pregnant woman don't assume someone will give up their seat on the bus or the subway.
Don't expect people to have manners. Even if you're an old lady or a pregnant woman don't assume someone will give up their seat on the bus or the subway.
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Jess Y. says:
Nothing in life is ever free. Craiglist is full of scammers. Expect to find brokers posting on the no-broker, no fee part of teh apartment site. They rarely tell the truth. And if it's too good to be true, it is. With almost 99.99% certainity.
That said, the very few things that are free are the the best the city has to offer like a movie caught at the piers during the summer, concert in central park, a walk along the FDR.
The city really changes by the seasons. Even the squirrels get fatter come winter time.
Groceries are really expensive.
Nothing in life is ever free. Craiglist is full of scammers. Expect to find brokers posting on the no-broker, no fee part of teh apartment site. They rarely tell the truth. And if it's too good to be true, it is. With almost 99.99% certainity.
That said, the very few things that are free are the the best the city has to offer like a movie caught at the piers during the summer, concert in central park, a walk along the FDR.
The city really changes by the seasons. Even the squirrels get fatter come winter time.
Groceries are really expensive.
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Anna L. says:
Emiy S. wrote "the trick with new yorkers (and i am not one) is that they adore their own filth. it makes for the "charm" of the place."
I usually avoid being rude, but you started it. If you hate New York and everyone who lives here so much, leave. We don't live in "filth." New York is a fantastic place, a one of a kind place. There are negative parts about every part of the world. This is just a thread where these negative aspects can be expressed. And calling us all pigs that roll around in dirt and love every moment of is effed up.
Thank you,
A proud civilized New Yorker, who says "excuse me," "please" and smiles back at people on a regular basis.
Emiy S. wrote "the trick with new yorkers (and i am not one) is that they adore their own filth. it makes for the "charm" of the place."
I usually avoid being rude, but you started it. If you hate New York and everyone who lives here so much, leave. We don't live in "filth." New York is a fantastic place, a one of a kind place. There are negative parts about every part of the world. This is just a thread where these negative aspects can be expressed. And calling us all pigs that roll around in dirt and love every moment of is effed up.
Thank you,
A proud civilized New Yorker, who says "excuse me," "please" and smiles back at people on a regular basis.
1/19/2008
Liiisa "Klein Bottle" C. says:
Everyone wants / expects / demands a tip. The city is run on money.
Everyone wants / expects / demands a tip. The city is run on money.
1/19/2008
Jonathan "JWeg" W. says:
Can we make a new rule? Positive comments about nyc only? This thread is getting depressing..
Can we make a new rule? Positive comments about nyc only? This thread is getting depressing..
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Rebecca "the Claw" H. says:
That no matter how many people are around, and how busy this city is all the time. It can really be a lonely place.
That no matter how many people are around, and how busy this city is all the time. It can really be a lonely place.
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1/19/2008
Quinn "Hussein" R. says:
Thank you Anna and Jonathan for straightening this kids out.
If you other folks can't deal with New York City, please fucking move. You are driving our rents up, creating a demand for chain stores, and sucking the culture out of our City.
You have no fucking idea how much dirtier and rougher this city was. You want New York to be just like whatever boring place you came from, except interesting. Well it can't be interesting with you around, now can it?
And unless there's a damn good reason (such as you moving to my city just so you can insult it) I am extremely fucking polite.
Thank you, have a nice day.
Thank you Anna and Jonathan for straightening this kids out.
If you other folks can't deal with New York City, please fucking move. You are driving our rents up, creating a demand for chain stores, and sucking the culture out of our City.
You have no fucking idea how much dirtier and rougher this city was. You want New York to be just like whatever boring place you came from, except interesting. Well it can't be interesting with you around, now can it?
And unless there's a damn good reason (such as you moving to my city just so you can insult it) I am extremely fucking polite.
Thank you, have a nice day.
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Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
Man, for New Yorkers some of you have some really thin skin. This thread is for people who moved to New York and the things we wish we had known beforehand. It's possible to have gripes about a place and still love it to death. I enjoy New York more than any other city in which I've lived (about a dozen at this point) and won't be leaving because you can't stand that I acknowledge how dirty my shoes get by the end of the day.
Man, for New Yorkers some of you have some really thin skin. This thread is for people who moved to New York and the things we wish we had known beforehand. It's possible to have gripes about a place and still love it to death. I enjoy New York more than any other city in which I've lived (about a dozen at this point) and won't be leaving because you can't stand that I acknowledge how dirty my shoes get by the end of the day.
1/19/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
Good and bad, it's all funny and true! It's helpful insdier's knowledge! I meant only to share some interesting tidbits and commiserate with m' neighbors on the idiocyncracies of living here that we only know once we've set up shop.
No personal offense meant to anyone, native born or otherwise.
I think most will agree that not one thing on this thread is so awful that it holds much weight when compared to all the fantastic reasons I choose to live here!
Good and bad, it's all funny and true! It's helpful insdier's knowledge! I meant only to share some interesting tidbits and commiserate with m' neighbors on the idiocyncracies of living here that we only know once we've set up shop.
No personal offense meant to anyone, native born or otherwise.
I think most will agree that not one thing on this thread is so awful that it holds much weight when compared to all the fantastic reasons I choose to live here!
1/19/2008
Fabian T. says:
The city is the epitome of change. You will walk down the same street today and come tomorrow it'll be different.
You'll be in a subway car with 30 other people from 30 different nationalities / ethnicities / religions / races and it will seem perfectly routine.
People from the world over will move to NYC and lose any sense of manners and niceties ("please", "thank you", "excuse me") because they think that's what makes a New Yorker.
You will become suspicious of the sound of silence.
Bring it. Bring your A-Game.
If you can make it here, you really don't give a shit if you make it anywhere else.
You're not the smartest, funniest, prettiest, coolest, or greatest one here - that's what motivates you.
The Sunday paper can give you a hernia - lift with your legs.
The city is the epitome of change. You will walk down the same street today and come tomorrow it'll be different.
You'll be in a subway car with 30 other people from 30 different nationalities / ethnicities / religions / races and it will seem perfectly routine.
People from the world over will move to NYC and lose any sense of manners and niceties ("please", "thank you", "excuse me") because they think that's what makes a New Yorker.
You will become suspicious of the sound of silence.
Bring it. Bring your A-Game.
If you can make it here, you really don't give a shit if you make it anywhere else.
You're not the smartest, funniest, prettiest, coolest, or greatest one here - that's what motivates you.
The Sunday paper can give you a hernia - lift with your legs.
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Anna L. says:
It's possible to have gripes about a place and express them as adults, instead of calling people filthy.
It's possible to have gripes about a place and express them as adults, instead of calling people filthy.
1/19/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
But New York IS filthy. So are Paris, London, and Hong Kong. It's the consequence of cramming 8 million people into a small space. Why would you take offense to that?
But New York IS filthy. So are Paris, London, and Hong Kong. It's the consequence of cramming 8 million people into a small space. Why would you take offense to that?
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Mindy Z. says:
I didn't realize "real New Yorkers" don't say hello, goodbye, please, thank you. I'm from NJ (definitely not midwest...) and whenever I go in and out of a store I either say hello or smile, always say thank you, and say bye (or thank you) if I'm at a small store browsing. I just see that as simple respect, not as a badge of being a tough New Yorker. I give tourists directions because I'm not an asshole and I know the pain of being lost on your own. One time this mom and her boy asked me for directions, I pointed them the way, and the boy kept looking back at me terrified. So, I SMILED and he gave me this huge smile that didn't go away. What's so hard?
One thing I don't think anyone mentioned is to BRING SNOW AND RAIN BOOTS.
Sometimes the city can wear you down with all its energy and things to do. You do NOT have to go out everyday and night, sometimes a night in is as good as any.
There's a place for you here, you just have to find it.
I didn't realize "real New Yorkers" don't say hello, goodbye, please, thank you. I'm from NJ (definitely not midwest...) and whenever I go in and out of a store I either say hello or smile, always say thank you, and say bye (or thank you) if I'm at a small store browsing. I just see that as simple respect, not as a badge of being a tough New Yorker. I give tourists directions because I'm not an asshole and I know the pain of being lost on your own. One time this mom and her boy asked me for directions, I pointed them the way, and the boy kept looking back at me terrified. So, I SMILED and he gave me this huge smile that didn't go away. What's so hard?
One thing I don't think anyone mentioned is to BRING SNOW AND RAIN BOOTS.
Sometimes the city can wear you down with all its energy and things to do. You do NOT have to go out everyday and night, sometimes a night in is as good as any.
There's a place for you here, you just have to find it.
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JP B. says:
No matter how expensive groceries might be in your neighborhood (where the markets are paying high rents, too) there ARE places in the city where groceries are cheap. They bear little resemblance to suburban grocery stores, and shopping is sometimes easier if you speak a little Spanish or Chinese. But fortune favors the bold, and bargains come to the adventurous.
Actually, that holds up for many things in this town: The more you push this city to be an urban version of upper middle class suburban American living the more expensive it gets, until it hits complete outrageousness. Revise your concept of what's "nice", get a little more adventurous and rub shoulders with immigrants - suddenly everything except the rent becomes much more reasonable. The money you save buys your dose of "nice" when you need it.
No matter how expensive groceries might be in your neighborhood (where the markets are paying high rents, too) there ARE places in the city where groceries are cheap. They bear little resemblance to suburban grocery stores, and shopping is sometimes easier if you speak a little Spanish or Chinese. But fortune favors the bold, and bargains come to the adventurous.
Actually, that holds up for many things in this town: The more you push this city to be an urban version of upper middle class suburban American living the more expensive it gets, until it hits complete outrageousness. Revise your concept of what's "nice", get a little more adventurous and rub shoulders with immigrants - suddenly everything except the rent becomes much more reasonable. The money you save buys your dose of "nice" when you need it.
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Alex "Jando" S. says:
Abigail, Hong Kong has laws that fine people for littering, spitting, and even smoking. It used to be dirty, but has impressively clean since 2003 (SARS Outbreak)
Abigail, Hong Kong has laws that fine people for littering, spitting, and even smoking. It used to be dirty, but has impressively clean since 2003 (SARS Outbreak)
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Marisa B. says:
Olivia G., I totally agree.
- Golf umbrellas belong on the GOLF COURSE, not on the NYC sidewalk.
- Also: walk on the left, stand on the right.
- Be assertive (not bitchy, just assertive) and you will usually get better service at the crowded deli for lunch.
Olivia G., I totally agree.
- Golf umbrellas belong on the GOLF COURSE, not on the NYC sidewalk.
- Also: walk on the left, stand on the right.
- Be assertive (not bitchy, just assertive) and you will usually get better service at the crowded deli for lunch.
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1/19/2008
Emily S. says:
anna L., have you been to chicago, for instance? new york IS dirty - i didn't say anything was wrong with that, but people should know it! defending it so shrilly reminds me of "my country right or wrong" type of sentiment... yes i do have a right to live here and say it's filthy 'cause it is.
but dirtiness is part of the charm and cultural shtick of nyc!! think of the cover of Freewheeling Bob Dylan!!! or that photo of audin in the snow -- nyc has this rough, industrial thing going on - not like paris for instance. and that's definately part of the charm.
but i think it's empirically true that nyc is not as clean as chicago or san francisco, for example. on my street if a trash can is overturned it stays like that all day.
one time i saw someone shitting in a park. i guess that could happen anywhere.
anna L., have you been to chicago, for instance? new york IS dirty - i didn't say anything was wrong with that, but people should know it! defending it so shrilly reminds me of "my country right or wrong" type of sentiment... yes i do have a right to live here and say it's filthy 'cause it is.
but dirtiness is part of the charm and cultural shtick of nyc!! think of the cover of Freewheeling Bob Dylan!!! or that photo of audin in the snow -- nyc has this rough, industrial thing going on - not like paris for instance. and that's definately part of the charm.
but i think it's empirically true that nyc is not as clean as chicago or san francisco, for example. on my street if a trash can is overturned it stays like that all day.
one time i saw someone shitting in a park. i guess that could happen anywhere.
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Emily S. says:
oh wait ONE VERY POSITIVE THING that i Love about new yorkers - born and just moved - is that if something is a pain in the ass (late train, crowds, expense) you will ALWAYS find a sympathetic ear - you can groan and someone will smile at you.
if you are impatient, everyone is impatient with you,
i remember waiting for a metro in another city and the train was literally ON THE TRACKS in front of us, but it wasn't moving forward and the whole crowd on the platform just stood there very very impassively and quietly -- in new york someone would have been going off about what complete bullshit it was... and why wouldn't the goddamn doors open etc etc.
and in nyc i don't even know how many friendly conversations i've had with total strangers about stuff.
i don't think new yorkers say "please" and "thank you" very often b/c everyone's too rushed to both about formalities, but there's a kind of common sympathetic spirit not expressed in words. you can always find someone who agrees with you...
oh wait ONE VERY POSITIVE THING that i Love about new yorkers - born and just moved - is that if something is a pain in the ass (late train, crowds, expense) you will ALWAYS find a sympathetic ear - you can groan and someone will smile at you.
if you are impatient, everyone is impatient with you,
i remember waiting for a metro in another city and the train was literally ON THE TRACKS in front of us, but it wasn't moving forward and the whole crowd on the platform just stood there very very impassively and quietly -- in new york someone would have been going off about what complete bullshit it was... and why wouldn't the goddamn doors open etc etc.
and in nyc i don't even know how many friendly conversations i've had with total strangers about stuff.
i don't think new yorkers say "please" and "thank you" very often b/c everyone's too rushed to both about formalities, but there's a kind of common sympathetic spirit not expressed in words. you can always find someone who agrees with you...
1/19/2008
Fabian T. says:
Emily - I think the tone and the blanket statement are the issue. There are plenty areas in NYC that are as clean as any place in SF or Chicago - and likewise crapholes in parts of both those cities. Paris may be cleaner - if the dog shit has been picked up that day - but it's not unlike a white couch with plastic covers.
Emily - I think the tone and the blanket statement are the issue. There are plenty areas in NYC that are as clean as any place in SF or Chicago - and likewise crapholes in parts of both those cities. Paris may be cleaner - if the dog shit has been picked up that day - but it's not unlike a white couch with plastic covers.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Not to ask a thug who has a gun pointed at your head..."What are you going to do shoot me?" um..yeah... you will get shot dead! Remember 28 y.o Nicole Dufrense (Clinton st 3 years ago)? So fucked up.
Not to ask a thug who has a gun pointed at your head..."What are you going to do shoot me?" um..yeah... you will get shot dead! Remember 28 y.o Nicole Dufrense (Clinton st 3 years ago)? So fucked up.
1/19/2008
Fabian T. says:
That head-turner you just saw - there are a million more straight ahead. Keep walking.
That head-turner you just saw - there are a million more straight ahead. Keep walking.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
90% of the hot, in shape, well dressed, polite men who smell so good are not into chicks.
90% of the hot, in shape, well dressed, polite men who smell so good are not into chicks.
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1/19/2008
Gracie "Apache" G. says:
That yogurt and cereal are insanely overpriced. I used to pay 33-50 cents for a cup of yogurt in Florida. And here?? Here it pushes a dollar! That's absurd. I never thought I'd pay $4.99 for a box of Special K, either.
That yogurt and cereal are insanely overpriced. I used to pay 33-50 cents for a cup of yogurt in Florida. And here?? Here it pushes a dollar! That's absurd. I never thought I'd pay $4.99 for a box of Special K, either.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Quinn said" You want New York to be just like whatever boring place you came from, except interesting."
True that!
It makes you wonder why they move to NYC in the first place? Why must they bring these dorky chain places with them, when there are tons of Applebees, Dunkin Donuts, Blockbusters etc back home in Any town USA? Nostalgia? Natives welcome all ....however.....please refrain, or we will respectfully request that you go back to where you came from.
Thank you and have a lovely evening.
Tori K.
Native Ny'er who says "excuse me" " thank you" "you're welcome" " can you please pass the " "Goodnight : ) "
Quinn said" You want New York to be just like whatever boring place you came from, except interesting."
True that!
It makes you wonder why they move to NYC in the first place? Why must they bring these dorky chain places with them, when there are tons of Applebees, Dunkin Donuts, Blockbusters etc back home in Any town USA? Nostalgia? Natives welcome all ....however.....please refrain, or we will respectfully request that you go back to where you came from.
Thank you and have a lovely evening.
Tori K.
Native Ny'er who says "excuse me" " thank you" "you're welcome" " can you please pass the " "Goodnight : ) "
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Sam "The Ex-Mayor" P. says:
Wow - I love this thread!
A few of my favorties:
W4th Street Crosses W10th Street and that's totally OK.
9th Ave becomes Columbus, 10th Ave becomes Amsterdam, and 11th becomes West End - very useful when traveling by cab between Hell's Kitchen and the UWS.
If it's less than two subways stops, you should walk.
Getting across town will always take you 10 minutes longer than you think, no matter what time of day (rush hour, add 30min)
There are really only two places where you can get a full meal (like with a drink, etc.) for under $10: on the street and in Chinatown (exceptions include Mamouns and Grey's Papaya).
People here care more about how you look in your clothes than out of them (as opposed to L.A. or Miami). Dress to impress, baby!
You pay for what neighborhood you live in, not what kind of apartment you live in.
Wow - I love this thread!
A few of my favorties:
W4th Street Crosses W10th Street and that's totally OK.
9th Ave becomes Columbus, 10th Ave becomes Amsterdam, and 11th becomes West End - very useful when traveling by cab between Hell's Kitchen and the UWS.
If it's less than two subways stops, you should walk.
Getting across town will always take you 10 minutes longer than you think, no matter what time of day (rush hour, add 30min)
There are really only two places where you can get a full meal (like with a drink, etc.) for under $10: on the street and in Chinatown (exceptions include Mamouns and Grey's Papaya).
People here care more about how you look in your clothes than out of them (as opposed to L.A. or Miami). Dress to impress, baby!
You pay for what neighborhood you live in, not what kind of apartment you live in.
1/19/2008
beth p. says:
from TIME OUT this week:
"No, I love New York City. I used to live there. Sometimes I miss it so much, I'll fill my humidifier with urine."- Emo Philips
from TIME OUT this week:
"No, I love New York City. I used to live there. Sometimes I miss it so much, I'll fill my humidifier with urine."- Emo Philips
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Quinn "Hussein" R. says:
To those who think that NYC is dirty, I have to laugh. I just got back from New Delhi... some of you guys would have a nervous breakdown in New Delhi. I love it, but your shoes might get a little dusty and then you would cry.
To those who think that NYC is dirty, I have to laugh. I just got back from New Delhi... some of you guys would have a nervous breakdown in New Delhi. I love it, but your shoes might get a little dusty and then you would cry.
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George "Uniquewa" K. says:
No one ever told me that I needed to know how to rap. I was given mic time during those dance offs in the train and ran like a little girl.
No one ever told me that I needed to know how to rap. I was given mic time during those dance offs in the train and ran like a little girl.
1/19/2008
Ed "they talk of my drinking but never my thirst." H. says:
Walking out of the subway at night and it's snowing. The only time I found the city quiet.
All of the awesome free events, movies in the park, concerts in the park, etc...
Getting used to "To stay." versus "For here" at a fast food joint. Makes sense.
Have a friend on the West coast whom you can call at 3am. Really is handy when you're lost downtown, and a wee drunk.
The city will teach you to trust yourself and be confident, you don't have to be dick or rude or anything, unless you naturally are, and you can go on with your bad self.
Walking out of the subway at night and it's snowing. The only time I found the city quiet.
All of the awesome free events, movies in the park, concerts in the park, etc...
Getting used to "To stay." versus "For here" at a fast food joint. Makes sense.
Have a friend on the West coast whom you can call at 3am. Really is handy when you're lost downtown, and a wee drunk.
The city will teach you to trust yourself and be confident, you don't have to be dick or rude or anything, unless you naturally are, and you can go on with your bad self.
1/19/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
Sam "The Mayor" P. says:
Wow - I love this thread!
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I do too, Sam--it's hilarious and useful. I just wish the local New Yorkers weren't taking outsider observations like a personal attack. I don't get why it's not okay to make lighthearted posts about a city's warts and quirks, but it is okay to troll a thread for people who aren't native New Yorkers with insults and derision. You can call us what you like but we're here to stay and it would be pretty cool if you'd accept that fact instead of calling us names and making ignorant, mean-spirited generalizations about us. Just my $0.02.
Now excuse me, I'm off to a party being thrown by two lovely native New Yorkers who, fortunately, didn't automatically assume that I'm a chain-store-loving bumpkin who places no value on local culture because I wasn't born here.
Sam "The Mayor" P. says:
Wow - I love this thread!
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I do too, Sam--it's hilarious and useful. I just wish the local New Yorkers weren't taking outsider observations like a personal attack. I don't get why it's not okay to make lighthearted posts about a city's warts and quirks, but it is okay to troll a thread for people who aren't native New Yorkers with insults and derision. You can call us what you like but we're here to stay and it would be pretty cool if you'd accept that fact instead of calling us names and making ignorant, mean-spirited generalizations about us. Just my $0.02.
Now excuse me, I'm off to a party being thrown by two lovely native New Yorkers who, fortunately, didn't automatically assume that I'm a chain-store-loving bumpkin who places no value on local culture because I wasn't born here.
1/19/2008
Jim "The Revolution Will Not Be Pasteurized" W. says:
Awesome thread for a frequent visitor! Thanks...
Awesome thread for a frequent visitor! Thanks...
1/19/2008
Melanie "Cinnamuffin" R. says:
I definitely think that stand on the right, MOVE on the left is some of the best advice you can give to anyone coming to NY.
I definitely think that stand on the right, MOVE on the left is some of the best advice you can give to anyone coming to NY.
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Guy "JuST*GuY" O. says:
Great thread!!
That a lot of people here are REALY antipathetic!!!
And they should've told me I would spend tonz of money!!!!!!!
Great thread!!
That a lot of people here are REALY antipathetic!!!
And they should've told me I would spend tonz of money!!!!!!!
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BLAKTINO "jive ass turkey" G. says:
Fabian "Ca-Caw" T. says:
That head-turner you just saw - there are a million more straight ahead. Keep walking.
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so fucking true. although i just can't turn away from a fat bum.
shout out to big bunda
Fabian "Ca-Caw" T. says:
That head-turner you just saw - there are a million more straight ahead. Keep walking.
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so fucking true. although i just can't turn away from a fat bum.
shout out to big bunda
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Quinn "Hussein" R. says:
Beth- that Emo Philips joke is hilarious- I saw it too.
Abigail- I think we all got turned off by the tone some people were taking. My parents, my wife, and many of my friends are transplants.
We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities.
I agree with that basic principle that NYC is constantly changing, and is even defined by this. But the goal is to make sure it changes for the better.
I think I was also a little turned off because I've found that most New Yorkers are actually quite polite and welcoming-- when I'm not baited into obscenity-laced tirades on Yelp, I am too. It's generally people who come here with something to prove that end up being nasty.
Beth- that Emo Philips joke is hilarious- I saw it too.
Abigail- I think we all got turned off by the tone some people were taking. My parents, my wife, and many of my friends are transplants.
We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities.
I agree with that basic principle that NYC is constantly changing, and is even defined by this. But the goal is to make sure it changes for the better.
I think I was also a little turned off because I've found that most New Yorkers are actually quite polite and welcoming-- when I'm not baited into obscenity-laced tirades on Yelp, I am too. It's generally people who come here with something to prove that end up being nasty.
1/20/2008
Guy "JuST*GuY" O. says:
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1/20/2008
lynn "conchita" n. says:
Some positives that no one warned me about:
Street fairs and green markets - lovely.
Summer, Fall, Spring and Winter in Central Park - lovely.
There's a heart beat to the City.
Stop on the sidewalk, in a historical part of the city, look around and it's easy to imagine the generations that lived here prior.
Free events each week.
I've never felt threatened.
Some positives that no one warned me about:
Street fairs and green markets - lovely.
Summer, Fall, Spring and Winter in Central Park - lovely.
There's a heart beat to the City.
Stop on the sidewalk, in a historical part of the city, look around and it's easy to imagine the generations that lived here prior.
Free events each week.
I've never felt threatened.
1/20/2008
Caroline M. says:
-- If a clueless European or Midwestern tourist asks you for directions and you DO help them (and don't try pointing them in the wrong direction as a prank, because that's mean!), they will absolutely glow and the expressions on their faces will be enough to make your day worthwhile. Chances are, you're the eighth person they've asked.
-- If you're a good-looking, decently-dressed guy (business casual counts) who works out, you'll get hit on by men and you'll just have to deal with it.
-- Corollary: If you are a straight girl, you should not expect to meet your future boyfriend at the gym. 90 percent of the straight New York men who work out are only doing it because their wives/girlfriends are making them do it. This rises to 95 percent if the gym in question is Equinox or David Barton.
-- Paying the premium to live in a neighborhood where you feel safe at any time of the day/night is unbelievably worth it.
-- If you wear stilettos to the Meatpacking District, prepare to get laughed at as you teeter around in the cobblestone streets. You'll get laughed at by chicks like me who wore flats.
-- Girls, when you meet a guy, one of the first questions you should ask him is what part of town he hangs out in. You'll learn a ton about him (if that hipster-looking guy says he hangs out in West Chelsea, he's either an uber-poser, which is lame, or he likes men, which is cool but means he's not going to date you).
-- Get the most out of your neighborhood. Try every restaurant and bar, even if you end up splurging a bit, because you never know when you'll find a new favorite, or when that place you've always wanted to go to will lose its lease.
-- Don't bother with those "skip the line!!!" club promoters on MySpace. You can find much, much, MUCH better things to do at night, no matter how much of a loser you are.
-- If you're moving to NY soon, start reading Gothamist, Curbed, Eater, and the NYMag blogs NOW, even though you will at first have no idea what they are talking about. Once you get here, you'll start finding niches of local blogs to diversify your office procrastination time that fit your interests/neighborhood more specifically (brooklynvegan, vanishingNY, etc.)
-- If a clueless European or Midwestern tourist asks you for directions and you DO help them (and don't try pointing them in the wrong direction as a prank, because that's mean!), they will absolutely glow and the expressions on their faces will be enough to make your day worthwhile. Chances are, you're the eighth person they've asked.
-- If you're a good-looking, decently-dressed guy (business casual counts) who works out, you'll get hit on by men and you'll just have to deal with it.
-- Corollary: If you are a straight girl, you should not expect to meet your future boyfriend at the gym. 90 percent of the straight New York men who work out are only doing it because their wives/girlfriends are making them do it. This rises to 95 percent if the gym in question is Equinox or David Barton.
-- Paying the premium to live in a neighborhood where you feel safe at any time of the day/night is unbelievably worth it.
-- If you wear stilettos to the Meatpacking District, prepare to get laughed at as you teeter around in the cobblestone streets. You'll get laughed at by chicks like me who wore flats.
-- Girls, when you meet a guy, one of the first questions you should ask him is what part of town he hangs out in. You'll learn a ton about him (if that hipster-looking guy says he hangs out in West Chelsea, he's either an uber-poser, which is lame, or he likes men, which is cool but means he's not going to date you).
-- Get the most out of your neighborhood. Try every restaurant and bar, even if you end up splurging a bit, because you never know when you'll find a new favorite, or when that place you've always wanted to go to will lose its lease.
-- Don't bother with those "skip the line!!!" club promoters on MySpace. You can find much, much, MUCH better things to do at night, no matter how much of a loser you are.
-- If you're moving to NY soon, start reading Gothamist, Curbed, Eater, and the NYMag blogs NOW, even though you will at first have no idea what they are talking about. Once you get here, you'll start finding niches of local blogs to diversify your office procrastination time that fit your interests/neighborhood more specifically (brooklynvegan, vanishingNY, etc.)
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Don't expect phony exchange of pleasantries. Natives are forthright, honest and tell it like it is. Does my ass look fat in this city? Why yes it does! You need a thick skin and a good regime.
Don't expect phony exchange of pleasantries. Natives are forthright, honest and tell it like it is. Does my ass look fat in this city? Why yes it does! You need a thick skin and a good regime.
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Sandra B. says:
-You will struggle to find edible produce, unless you go to one of the City's Greenmarkets.
-Subway transportation to and from Queens while it is raining is a figment of your imagination
That being said, I believe NYC is one of the best places on earth. You have endless options of things to do. You can eat in a different restaurant every single day. The people may appear to be rude, but in fact are some of the kindest, most generous, people in the world. I was born in Boston, and bred to hate NYC. When I told friends and family that I was moving, they looked at me like I told them I had a disease. But upon moving here, and standing on the sidewalk, looking bewildered with a map in my hands, was asked by several different people if I needed help. That never happened in Boston.
Also, this city has a number of bars that are considered Red Sox bars. How can you not love a city that hosts multiple watering holes for their arch rival baseball team?? Boston will always be home, but NYC is where I want to be.
-You will struggle to find edible produce, unless you go to one of the City's Greenmarkets.
-Subway transportation to and from Queens while it is raining is a figment of your imagination
That being said, I believe NYC is one of the best places on earth. You have endless options of things to do. You can eat in a different restaurant every single day. The people may appear to be rude, but in fact are some of the kindest, most generous, people in the world. I was born in Boston, and bred to hate NYC. When I told friends and family that I was moving, they looked at me like I told them I had a disease. But upon moving here, and standing on the sidewalk, looking bewildered with a map in my hands, was asked by several different people if I needed help. That never happened in Boston.
Also, this city has a number of bars that are considered Red Sox bars. How can you not love a city that hosts multiple watering holes for their arch rival baseball team?? Boston will always be home, but NYC is where I want to be.
1/20/2008
Jennifer "I'd rather run 10 miles then skip dessert" N. says:
I think the less you know the better. When it comes to this beautiful city-ignorance is bliss.
I miss it. My ignorance I mean.
I think the less you know the better. When it comes to this beautiful city-ignorance is bliss.
I miss it. My ignorance I mean.
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1/20/2008
Eileen D. says:
"In New York even if you're one in a million there are ten others just like you"
-Have a good idea of how to get where you're going when you hop in a cab. They will fuck you.
-Time goes twice as fast here as it does in the rest of the country.
-You can find anything here. But it won't be at the first ten places you look.
-Ladies you will get bizarre catcalls at any hour of the day.
-Don't buy food in touristy areas. They will fuck you.
-If you are here visiting and you go to TGI Fridays, chili's or any of that shit shame on you.
-Don't listen to your parents. They're talking about NY in the seventies and it's different now.
-The city is not handicapped friendly. I learned this the very very hard way. good luck getting to the subway on crutches.
-Good customer service is rare.
-Don't hug, lean on, embrace, or do anything to the pole in the subway except hold it.
-Hold it with your hand, not some sanitary barrier. No one peed on the damn pole.
-Don't fuck with the homeless. I saw a couple tourists taking pictures of a homeless lady on 36th st. Go home.
-Sometimes the signs in the subway just don't make sense. Sometimes you have to go up to another platform then down and then up, and then down a long hallway. Just be patient. Everyone is confused to.
-Only the downtown six stops at the Broadyway/Lafayette station. Uptown you have to go outside. It's weird.
when I talk about new york all i do is complain. But if I have to leave I am met with this debilitating sadness. I think that means I'm in love
"In New York even if you're one in a million there are ten others just like you"
-Have a good idea of how to get where you're going when you hop in a cab. They will fuck you.
-Time goes twice as fast here as it does in the rest of the country.
-You can find anything here. But it won't be at the first ten places you look.
-Ladies you will get bizarre catcalls at any hour of the day.
-Don't buy food in touristy areas. They will fuck you.
-If you are here visiting and you go to TGI Fridays, chili's or any of that shit shame on you.
-Don't listen to your parents. They're talking about NY in the seventies and it's different now.
-The city is not handicapped friendly. I learned this the very very hard way. good luck getting to the subway on crutches.
-Good customer service is rare.
-Don't hug, lean on, embrace, or do anything to the pole in the subway except hold it.
-Hold it with your hand, not some sanitary barrier. No one peed on the damn pole.
-Don't fuck with the homeless. I saw a couple tourists taking pictures of a homeless lady on 36th st. Go home.
-Sometimes the signs in the subway just don't make sense. Sometimes you have to go up to another platform then down and then up, and then down a long hallway. Just be patient. Everyone is confused to.
-Only the downtown six stops at the Broadyway/Lafayette station. Uptown you have to go outside. It's weird.
when I talk about new york all i do is complain. But if I have to leave I am met with this debilitating sadness. I think that means I'm in love
1/20/2008
Joseph M. says:
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
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That some fouled mouth guy named Trump runs the place.
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
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That some fouled mouth guy named Trump runs the place.
1/20/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
I always thought people saying a city is "clean" = code word for mostly White. They like Boston because it's so "clean" compared to other cities in the Northeast. Or they really like Seattle because it's "clean". Whether they're even aware they're doing it is another matter.
I always thought people saying a city is "clean" = code word for mostly White. They like Boston because it's so "clean" compared to other cities in the Northeast. Or they really like Seattle because it's "clean". Whether they're even aware they're doing it is another matter.
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Denise "my name is Denise not Dennis" L. says:
I live in the midwest and we're not that nice. People will bump HARD right into your ass and not say shit. "Excuse me" and "sorry" are foreign language here.
Nice thread though. I still want to move to nyc.
I live in the midwest and we're not that nice. People will bump HARD right into your ass and not say shit. "Excuse me" and "sorry" are foreign language here.
Nice thread though. I still want to move to nyc.
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1/20/2008
J O. says:
CB M: Really? I always went by the amount of litter, dog shit, and garbage juice I see on the sidewalks, and the amount of grime on the buildings. In this respect, New York is fairly dirty, but I just attribute it to the number of people living here, not the ethnicity of the people living here.
CB M: Really? I always went by the amount of litter, dog shit, and garbage juice I see on the sidewalks, and the amount of grime on the buildings. In this respect, New York is fairly dirty, but I just attribute it to the number of people living here, not the ethnicity of the people living here.
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BLAKTINO "jive ass turkey" G. says:
Sandra W. says:
I was born in Boston, and bred to hate NYC.
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i'm not going to tell you how you were raised but being from Boston i wasn't taught to hate new yorkers, i was taught to hate the yankees. we don't even blame the mets for beating the red sox, we blame buckner. with that said i have to say that growing up new york was the place to party along with montreal because of it's proximity. i know a lot of people with friends and relatives in ny.
i don't know many people that wish that they were older, but in a sense i do because i wish experienced ny during the creation of hip hop, or during the jazz renaisance. but still, nyc nightlife kicks Boston's ass.
Sandra W. says:
I was born in Boston, and bred to hate NYC.
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i'm not going to tell you how you were raised but being from Boston i wasn't taught to hate new yorkers, i was taught to hate the yankees. we don't even blame the mets for beating the red sox, we blame buckner. with that said i have to say that growing up new york was the place to party along with montreal because of it's proximity. i know a lot of people with friends and relatives in ny.
i don't know many people that wish that they were older, but in a sense i do because i wish experienced ny during the creation of hip hop, or during the jazz renaisance. but still, nyc nightlife kicks Boston's ass.
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1/24/2008
Pierre Trudeau I. says:
I'm not from NYC (or even the east coast), but after reading this amusing thread I had to say something in defense of every New York native who's offended by the shit spewed about their city here. Why? Because people seem to do this everywhere they go, and they seem to be oblivious to how annoying it is.
If you don't like where you live, LEAVE. Is it really that complicated?
It's not about being "thin skinned". I feel exactly the same way about my hometown (Phoenix) that some of the New Yorkers do on this thread. It's actually kind of eye-opening to see that Phoenix isn't the only victim to this phenomenon. Phoenix is a city of transplants, with over 100,000 people from all over the US moving here per year. People come here from the midwest, the east coast, the cold western states, etc., and for some reason have the impression that those of us who live here actually give a shit about their opinions on how our city could be improved, or why it isn't as great as where they came from.
The sentiment is a simple one, and a shared one on behalf of all of us who love our hometowns: If you don't like it, just go home. No one likes whiners.
I'm not from NYC (or even the east coast), but after reading this amusing thread I had to say something in defense of every New York native who's offended by the shit spewed about their city here. Why? Because people seem to do this everywhere they go, and they seem to be oblivious to how annoying it is.
If you don't like where you live, LEAVE. Is it really that complicated?
It's not about being "thin skinned". I feel exactly the same way about my hometown (Phoenix) that some of the New Yorkers do on this thread. It's actually kind of eye-opening to see that Phoenix isn't the only victim to this phenomenon. Phoenix is a city of transplants, with over 100,000 people from all over the US moving here per year. People come here from the midwest, the east coast, the cold western states, etc., and for some reason have the impression that those of us who live here actually give a shit about their opinions on how our city could be improved, or why it isn't as great as where they came from.
The sentiment is a simple one, and a shared one on behalf of all of us who love our hometowns: If you don't like it, just go home. No one likes whiners.
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1/24/2008
JP B. says:
Pierre - Another part of New York culture is kevetching about everything. It's not called whining here.
Pierre - Another part of New York culture is kevetching about everything. It's not called whining here.
1/24/2008
Kate "the present king of france" T. says:
Pierre: you gotta truly love a city to whine (er, kvetch) about things like garbage juice on the sidewalks and still not even want to move out. We enumerate the flaws not because we hate NYC, but because we love it.
Pierre: you gotta truly love a city to whine (er, kvetch) about things like garbage juice on the sidewalks and still not even want to move out. We enumerate the flaws not because we hate NYC, but because we love it.
1/24/2008
Max "Mugged by the Hamburglar" S. says:
Pierre: Buy a season of Seinfeld on DVD. The entire show is based on kvetching.
It's just the way it is.
Pierre: Buy a season of Seinfeld on DVD. The entire show is based on kvetching.
It's just the way it is.
1/24/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
if you really want to understand kvetching, read "Born to Kvetch" by Michael Wex.
http://www.borntokvetc.../
I used to work at a law firm where nearly all the partners were born and raised new york jews, and let me tell you, this book helped me get closer to understanding all the whining/complaining/criticizin g/hand wringing
if you really want to understand kvetching, read "Born to Kvetch" by Michael Wex.
http://www.borntokvetc.../
I used to work at a law firm where nearly all the partners were born and raised new york jews, and let me tell you, this book helped me get closer to understanding all the whining/complaining/criticizin g/hand wringing
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JP B. says:
The way the French will critically discuss a meal while eating it is similar to the way New Yorkers will complain about everything wrong with the city while loving it! NYC wouldn't be any fun if there weren't things to complain about. For example, a great cheap meal in Chinatown wouldn't be nearly so satisfying if it didn't require braving crowded often dirty streets filled with a variety of aromas (some good, others not so god) to find the somewhat dingy hole in the wall that serves authentic food with little of no concern for atmosphere, presentation or decor. The feeling that a $5 plate of pork and bitter melon is something hard-won and not for everyone is part of what makes it so great in the first place. That goes for the whole damned city as well!
The way the French will critically discuss a meal while eating it is similar to the way New Yorkers will complain about everything wrong with the city while loving it! NYC wouldn't be any fun if there weren't things to complain about. For example, a great cheap meal in Chinatown wouldn't be nearly so satisfying if it didn't require braving crowded often dirty streets filled with a variety of aromas (some good, others not so god) to find the somewhat dingy hole in the wall that serves authentic food with little of no concern for atmosphere, presentation or decor. The feeling that a $5 plate of pork and bitter melon is something hard-won and not for everyone is part of what makes it so great in the first place. That goes for the whole damned city as well!
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JP B. says:
One more thing:
NYC is no longer such a tough place that the simple act of living here gives you instant cred as a badass. It is still a place where on a daily basis one deals with sights, smells and situations that folks who live in "nicer" places would find appalling, disgusting, outrageous or simply unacceptable. Most New Yorkers wear their ability to deal with such things like a badge of honor - and they'll give you every detail of their daily tribulations to make sure you notice that badge!
One more thing:
NYC is no longer such a tough place that the simple act of living here gives you instant cred as a badass. It is still a place where on a daily basis one deals with sights, smells and situations that folks who live in "nicer" places would find appalling, disgusting, outrageous or simply unacceptable. Most New Yorkers wear their ability to deal with such things like a badge of honor - and they'll give you every detail of their daily tribulations to make sure you notice that badge!
1/24/2008
Michael D. says:
That when you order a hamburger, you only get a hamburger patty and a bun, no tomato, no lettuce, no pickles, no nuthin'.
That when you order a hamburger, you only get a hamburger patty and a bun, no tomato, no lettuce, no pickles, no nuthin'.
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1/24/2008
Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:
01/18/2008 Jennifer "gimme some sugah" S. says:
I've lived in NY my whole life but....
dont ever walk into a cloud of steam or whatever....because when you do that you will probably be stepping into a puddle up to your knee of diseased AIDS infested water
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she thinks she's being "edgy" or "funny" when in fact she is just being offensive. Flagged
01/18/2008 Jennifer "gimme some sugah" S. says:
I've lived in NY my whole life but....
dont ever walk into a cloud of steam or whatever....because when you do that you will probably be stepping into a puddle up to your knee of diseased AIDS infested water
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she thinks she's being "edgy" or "funny" when in fact she is just being offensive. Flagged
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Mark "Marky D" D. says:
when I moved here 15 years ago, the east village and LES were full of cool people, a studio rented for $700 a month, and a slice was $1. Now its full of B&T losers looking for the next hot "lounge" or puking in the gutters from too many cosmos.
when I moved here 15 years ago, the east village and LES were full of cool people, a studio rented for $700 a month, and a slice was $1. Now its full of B&T losers looking for the next hot "lounge" or puking in the gutters from too many cosmos.
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1/24/2008
Jim "cough cough facebook cough cough" S. says:
I live in San Francisco now - moved from NY - and I miss my roots! Some of the main things I wish I was told before moving to SF from NY:
- dumb yourself way down
- keep your cultural expectations very low
- soften your witty sharp sense of humor
- throwing paper or plastic in the trash is akin to murdering kittens
- forget about fashion
- don't bother packing a comb, razor, suits, nor ties
I live in San Francisco now - moved from NY - and I miss my roots! Some of the main things I wish I was told before moving to SF from NY:
- dumb yourself way down
- keep your cultural expectations very low
- soften your witty sharp sense of humor
- throwing paper or plastic in the trash is akin to murdering kittens
- forget about fashion
- don't bother packing a comb, razor, suits, nor ties
1/24/2008
Ben C. says:
If you need Sterno lanterns for your fondue pot, DO NOT walk up and down B'way trying to find them. None of the markets or convenience stores carry them. (Stock up at nearly any supermarket outside of Manhattan.)
If you need Sterno lanterns for your fondue pot, DO NOT walk up and down B'way trying to find them. None of the markets or convenience stores carry them. (Stock up at nearly any supermarket outside of Manhattan.)
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Pierre Trudeau I. says:
JP, I see what you're saying. I just think it takes a certain kind of personality to appreciate the grimier things in life, and maybe native New Yorkers are inherently like that. Other people want everything to be squeaky and shiny and clean, and that's what makes them happy even as it makes people like me sick. If I want shiny squeaky clean crap I'll go to the mall. But that's just me.
JP, I see what you're saying. I just think it takes a certain kind of personality to appreciate the grimier things in life, and maybe native New Yorkers are inherently like that. Other people want everything to be squeaky and shiny and clean, and that's what makes them happy even as it makes people like me sick. If I want shiny squeaky clean crap I'll go to the mall. But that's just me.
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1/24/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
Oh come off, it Pierre--the love it or leave it mentality is tired. It's okay to notice a city's warts and still love it so much you can't imagine living anywhere else. The high and mighty attitude is lame and yes, it's totally thin-skinned to be all "HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAIR CITY" when someone jokingly talks about garbage juice in a thread about a city that has lots and lots of garbage juice aflowin' through its gutters.
Other things I wish I'd known:
-Some Yelpers take jovial threads about New York way too seriously and will attempt to ruin any possible humor or fun within.
-Shopping at your average bodega is like shopping at a gas station. Learn to get your produce from the produce guy, your poultry from the poultry guy, your cosmetics and drugs from the drug store, and so on.
-It's 6th Avenue, not Avenue of the Americas. Don't use the latter or cabbies will assume you're a tourist and fuck you over.
-Normal, otherwise sane people will actually pay $35 for a stupid dog sweater. I know, because I am one of them.
-You will hear about your friend who is paying $2200 for a Manhattan studio and think to yourself, "What a steal!" Then you'll remember what you paid in other cities and die a little inside.
Oh come off, it Pierre--the love it or leave it mentality is tired. It's okay to notice a city's warts and still love it so much you can't imagine living anywhere else. The high and mighty attitude is lame and yes, it's totally thin-skinned to be all "HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAIR CITY" when someone jokingly talks about garbage juice in a thread about a city that has lots and lots of garbage juice aflowin' through its gutters.
Other things I wish I'd known:
-Some Yelpers take jovial threads about New York way too seriously and will attempt to ruin any possible humor or fun within.
-Shopping at your average bodega is like shopping at a gas station. Learn to get your produce from the produce guy, your poultry from the poultry guy, your cosmetics and drugs from the drug store, and so on.
-It's 6th Avenue, not Avenue of the Americas. Don't use the latter or cabbies will assume you're a tourist and fuck you over.
-Normal, otherwise sane people will actually pay $35 for a stupid dog sweater. I know, because I am one of them.
-You will hear about your friend who is paying $2200 for a Manhattan studio and think to yourself, "What a steal!" Then you'll remember what you paid in other cities and die a little inside.
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1/24/2008
Pierre Trudeau I. says:
There's a native New Yorker who said exactly what my thoughts are on this very thread:
"We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities."
Couldn't have said it better.
There's a native New Yorker who said exactly what my thoughts are on this very thread:
"We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities."
Couldn't have said it better.
1/24/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
If we wanted where we came from, we would have stayed there. I'm sorry that so many newcomers are inevitably bringing their tastes and opinions with them, but that's life in a city--any city worth living in, anyway. New York is not an impermeable bubble, no matter how much you might want it to be. This is a dynamic city that is constantly changing and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
I can only speak for myself of course, but I go out of my way to soak in as much local culture as possible. Prejudge at your own risk.
And seriously, please stop shitting on a thread that people have found genuinely funny and informative. Maybe you should start a "Transplants, don't say anything about New York that isn't positively glowing or we'll cut you" thread of your own.
If we wanted where we came from, we would have stayed there. I'm sorry that so many newcomers are inevitably bringing their tastes and opinions with them, but that's life in a city--any city worth living in, anyway. New York is not an impermeable bubble, no matter how much you might want it to be. This is a dynamic city that is constantly changing and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
I can only speak for myself of course, but I go out of my way to soak in as much local culture as possible. Prejudge at your own risk.
And seriously, please stop shitting on a thread that people have found genuinely funny and informative. Maybe you should start a "Transplants, don't say anything about New York that isn't positively glowing or we'll cut you" thread of your own.
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1/24/2008
Pierre Trudeau I. says:
In other words, "Here's my opinion, but please stop disagreeing with me with your own opinion." How about: No.
I think it's naive to think there is "nothing" wrong with change. Where I live, people moving in from other states and their expectations about life in the desert are literally destroying it, one grass lawn and swimming pool at a time.
In other words, "Here's my opinion, but please stop disagreeing with me with your own opinion." How about: No.
I think it's naive to think there is "nothing" wrong with change. Where I live, people moving in from other states and their expectations about life in the desert are literally destroying it, one grass lawn and swimming pool at a time.
1/24/2008
Abigail "Five Flavors" S. says:
It's also naive to assume that all change is bad, or that everyone who moves to a place should love it blindly without noticing its quirks.
But no matter. This thread is amusing for those of us who can see the humor in it. For everyone else, it's another reason to gripe about the foreign assholes who have taken over your city. Either way, I'm glad Kate F. made it.
It's also naive to assume that all change is bad, or that everyone who moves to a place should love it blindly without noticing its quirks.
But no matter. This thread is amusing for those of us who can see the humor in it. For everyone else, it's another reason to gripe about the foreign assholes who have taken over your city. Either way, I'm glad Kate F. made it.
1/24/2008
Steven "Team Snarky™" V. says:
that 70% of the restaurants in Brooklyn (and random places in Manhattan) are cash-only
What - I should walk around with a wad of cash?? This is bullshit!
that 70% of the restaurants in Brooklyn (and random places in Manhattan) are cash-only
What - I should walk around with a wad of cash?? This is bullshit!
1/24/2008
Sienna K. says:
If you see someone get hit by a cab, and then have to wait forever while writhing in pain for the ambulance on your first day in the city, it's actually some sort of bizarre coincidence; the city isn't that scary, but you probably should watch out for the cabs nonetheless.
Refills are not free.
Also, Tupac is not considered an unquestionable god of all that is good and poetic as he is back home.
If you see someone get hit by a cab, and then have to wait forever while writhing in pain for the ambulance on your first day in the city, it's actually some sort of bizarre coincidence; the city isn't that scary, but you probably should watch out for the cabs nonetheless.
Refills are not free.
Also, Tupac is not considered an unquestionable god of all that is good and poetic as he is back home.
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1/24/2008
Eric "loves to hear cowbell" B. says:
talking to strangers on the street is not encouraged... the only people willing to talk are some tourist, and drunk new yorkers after a Yankees or Mets win
talking to strangers on the street is not encouraged... the only people willing to talk are some tourist, and drunk new yorkers after a Yankees or Mets win
1/25/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
"that 70% of the restaurants in Brooklyn (and random places in Manhattan) are cash-only
What - I should walk around with a wad of cash?? This is bullshit!"
On the flipside, there is a bodega on every corner. They'll have an ATM that will dispense cash... for $2.00.
"that 70% of the restaurants in Brooklyn (and random places in Manhattan) are cash-only
What - I should walk around with a wad of cash?? This is bullshit!"
On the flipside, there is a bodega on every corner. They'll have an ATM that will dispense cash... for $2.00.
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1/25/2008
Monica P. says:
Do not turn right on a lane that specifically says right turn for Buses Only.
Unfortunately, I found that out the hard way.
Do not turn right on a lane that specifically says right turn for Buses Only.
Unfortunately, I found that out the hard way.
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1/25/2008
JP B. says:
I think the lamenting the fact that some folks who move here try to make NYC into something reminiscent of whatever hideous place they came from carries some weight, but the city wouldn't be so amenable to that if we hadn't had two terms of a jerk like Giuliani as mayor. He seemed determined to clean this place up. Nothing wrong with that, but he took it WAY too far. I mean, what happened to the homeless, aside from the token few who remain? Times Square is now Disney Inc. (and there's a fucking Olive Garden there)! You can't legally dance in bars! Suburban chains like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods open up and people applaud?! Luxury condos are going up on the Bowery? Hipsters have replaced punkrock squatters in the East Village, where you can't even afford to squat anymore! There's a fucking K-Mart at Astor Place and a Starbucks on every corner that doesn't have a bank on it. Where am I? Fucking Minneapolis?
Yeah, change happens. But there's a reason why "Welcome to New York. Now Please Go Home" is funny, though. New York has been its own little world from the beginning. Seeing creepy shit from the rest of America popping up here is a little rough. Thankfully my little corner of the Lower East Side/Chinatown remains largely unscathed. A large number of places I go to are still "cash only", which is fucking beautiful!
I think the lamenting the fact that some folks who move here try to make NYC into something reminiscent of whatever hideous place they came from carries some weight, but the city wouldn't be so amenable to that if we hadn't had two terms of a jerk like Giuliani as mayor. He seemed determined to clean this place up. Nothing wrong with that, but he took it WAY too far. I mean, what happened to the homeless, aside from the token few who remain? Times Square is now Disney Inc. (and there's a fucking Olive Garden there)! You can't legally dance in bars! Suburban chains like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods open up and people applaud?! Luxury condos are going up on the Bowery? Hipsters have replaced punkrock squatters in the East Village, where you can't even afford to squat anymore! There's a fucking K-Mart at Astor Place and a Starbucks on every corner that doesn't have a bank on it. Where am I? Fucking Minneapolis?
Yeah, change happens. But there's a reason why "Welcome to New York. Now Please Go Home" is funny, though. New York has been its own little world from the beginning. Seeing creepy shit from the rest of America popping up here is a little rough. Thankfully my little corner of the Lower East Side/Chinatown remains largely unscathed. A large number of places I go to are still "cash only", which is fucking beautiful!
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1/25/2008
Shannon H. says:
I don't live there anymore, but a wise man once told me that New York City is the only city where, when it rains, it makes it's own gravy.
Yeah. This thread is cracking me up, making me nostalgic, and making me REALLY miss the deli near my old office.
* sniff *
I don't live there anymore, but a wise man once told me that New York City is the only city where, when it rains, it makes it's own gravy.
Yeah. This thread is cracking me up, making me nostalgic, and making me REALLY miss the deli near my old office.
* sniff *
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1/25/2008
Brad V. says:
Be open to living in the other burroughs. Rents in Manhattan are far too expensive for young people just starting out in any field but finance. There are many interesting neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn that are much cheaper.
What seems scary at first is usually just different... you'll get used to it and think it was stupid to ever have been scared of such a mundane thing. eg when I first moved here I was terrified of standing anywhere close to the edge of the subway platform lest some maniac should come by and push me in front of a train (your odds are just as good of being randomly shot by some maniac in a suburban shopping mall)
The subways aren't as dirty as most cities. Yeah, lots of people use them, but they had the good sense to make the seats out of plastic and everything is swept out and hosed down when the train reaches the end of the line. I've seen this personally in Coney Island. By contrast I lived in Boston for a number of years and those things are pretty messy by the evening commute.
It's going to sting a bit when your friends back home buy their first house or new car, but deep down you know you wouldn't trade your lifestyle and the city for some self-constructed suburban prison no matter what the square footage.
Be open to living in the other burroughs. Rents in Manhattan are far too expensive for young people just starting out in any field but finance. There are many interesting neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn that are much cheaper.
What seems scary at first is usually just different... you'll get used to it and think it was stupid to ever have been scared of such a mundane thing. eg when I first moved here I was terrified of standing anywhere close to the edge of the subway platform lest some maniac should come by and push me in front of a train (your odds are just as good of being randomly shot by some maniac in a suburban shopping mall)
The subways aren't as dirty as most cities. Yeah, lots of people use them, but they had the good sense to make the seats out of plastic and everything is swept out and hosed down when the train reaches the end of the line. I've seen this personally in Coney Island. By contrast I lived in Boston for a number of years and those things are pretty messy by the evening commute.
It's going to sting a bit when your friends back home buy their first house or new car, but deep down you know you wouldn't trade your lifestyle and the city for some self-constructed suburban prison no matter what the square footage.
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1/25/2008
Poe "lost my kitty cat" .. says:
This is making me feel better about living in SF. Thanks for the lift in my spirits.
This is making me feel better about living in SF. Thanks for the lift in my spirits.
1/25/2008
Julianne C. says:
Poe- I just moved here from SF (about a year and a half ago from Russian Hill) and I am SO glad I made the move. I loooove NYC. I'm sorry, SF is great but it's not NYC!!
CB M... I had no idea about the even and odd street # thing. That would have come in handy when I was lost in midtown last week...
Oh and that booger thing is SO true!!
I wish I took them seriously when they said, "No, it's really expensive to live in New York."
But I still love it here!
Poe- I just moved here from SF (about a year and a half ago from Russian Hill) and I am SO glad I made the move. I loooove NYC. I'm sorry, SF is great but it's not NYC!!
CB M... I had no idea about the even and odd street # thing. That would have come in handy when I was lost in midtown last week...
Oh and that booger thing is SO true!!
I wish I took them seriously when they said, "No, it's really expensive to live in New York."
But I still love it here!
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1/25/2008
Poe "lost my kitty cat" .. says:
Julianne, SF is SF. NY is NY. In other words it's true SF is not NY. But I gotta say, I've known that for a really long time. I love NYC. But right now after reading this thread, I'm appreciating SF a little bit.
Julianne, SF is SF. NY is NY. In other words it's true SF is not NY. But I gotta say, I've known that for a really long time. I love NYC. But right now after reading this thread, I'm appreciating SF a little bit.
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1/29/2008
Vanessa B. says:
i moved here about six months ago and i've noticed 2 things repeatedly. 1 - no one takes credit cards and 2 - there are no public bathrooms anywhere! i live in fear of not being able to make it to home/work/school without almost peeing my pants.
i moved here about six months ago and i've noticed 2 things repeatedly. 1 - no one takes credit cards and 2 - there are no public bathrooms anywhere! i live in fear of not being able to make it to home/work/school without almost peeing my pants.
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1/29/2008
Vanessa B. says:
it's nice to know others are encountering similar situations. i've been sick 4 times in the 6 months i've lived here. yuck. hello hand sanitizer.
it's nice to know others are encountering similar situations. i've been sick 4 times in the 6 months i've lived here. yuck. hello hand sanitizer.
1/29/2008
Joanna L. says:
Woohoo! I've almost forgotten about this thread...
I think it's interesting about how native New Yorkers want to preserve their way of live w/o bringing the rest of suburbia in. I've lived in another metropolitan city (Taipei,Taiwan) and every since they announced that they were bringing in Dunkin' Donuts, I've felt a little hurt that the city dynamics are changing so much. I used to revel in the fact that it was tough to find "real" American food there (excluding generic fast food chains).
For me, moving here was tough. Especially with the cost of rent (which I knew was high, but I never really imagined HOW HIGH), the cost of food (now $25-35 average for dinner is normal to me, but back home I'd eat for $7 average a meal) and just everything else added in.
What I wish people had told me was that I would get FAT moving here!!! I feel like I've gained 10lbs for the amount of yummy food, cupcakes, banana pudding, etc that I've eaten!!! Hahahaha ~ someone now needs to tell me to get used to going to the gym :) Despite the fact that my wallet is much lighter, I really love it here and everyone should know that, even if you "hate" it at first, you will learn to love how cool New York really is :)
Woohoo! I've almost forgotten about this thread...
I think it's interesting about how native New Yorkers want to preserve their way of live w/o bringing the rest of suburbia in. I've lived in another metropolitan city (Taipei,Taiwan) and every since they announced that they were bringing in Dunkin' Donuts, I've felt a little hurt that the city dynamics are changing so much. I used to revel in the fact that it was tough to find "real" American food there (excluding generic fast food chains).
For me, moving here was tough. Especially with the cost of rent (which I knew was high, but I never really imagined HOW HIGH), the cost of food (now $25-35 average for dinner is normal to me, but back home I'd eat for $7 average a meal) and just everything else added in.
What I wish people had told me was that I would get FAT moving here!!! I feel like I've gained 10lbs for the amount of yummy food, cupcakes, banana pudding, etc that I've eaten!!! Hahahaha ~ someone now needs to tell me to get used to going to the gym :) Despite the fact that my wallet is much lighter, I really love it here and everyone should know that, even if you "hate" it at first, you will learn to love how cool New York really is :)
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1/29/2008
mabel "mabel jean" s. says:
this is more apartment related undisclosed information before moving...i can't use my microwave and toaster oven at the same time, which is an ultimate time saver in the kitchen...instead it just leads to blowing the fuse at 10PM b/c i forget and i have to wait for my landlord in the morning....i heart ny
this is more apartment related undisclosed information before moving...i can't use my microwave and toaster oven at the same time, which is an ultimate time saver in the kitchen...instead it just leads to blowing the fuse at 10PM b/c i forget and i have to wait for my landlord in the morning....i heart ny
1/29/2008
Kate "the present king of france" T. says:
I've lived here for 7 months now, and i've been sick exactly once with a really mild headcold. What are you people doing, licking the subway turnstiles?
I've lived here for 7 months now, and i've been sick exactly once with a really mild headcold. What are you people doing, licking the subway turnstiles?
1/29/2008
Jen "Sporky" D. says:
Wow... Everyone's comments are so negative... This is a great city!!!!!
Good things you should have been told before moving here:
- Though our subway system does have its issues, it's one of the best in the world. You can get within 5-7 blocks of your destination by using the subway/bus.
- You can get almost every cuisine KNOWN TO MAN....
- There's endless shopping possibilities from expensive shit you can't even pronounce to buying a $5 Folex on Canal St.
- There are actually nice people who live in NYC who will stop to give you directions and who won't spit on you.
- Some of the most interesting people live in this city, including famous figures...
- THERE ARE JOBS AVAILABLE... If you can't find one, you must not be looking hard enough and/or want it bad enough...
- This city will make you ambitious... Come here a lazy ass and become super productive... (of course, this is all up to you)
- Endless amounts of activities, organizations, cultural venues...
- A short drive to the Atlantic, the Hamptons, Snowboarding, Hiking, Camping
to be continued...
Wow... Everyone's comments are so negative... This is a great city!!!!!
Good things you should have been told before moving here:
- Though our subway system does have its issues, it's one of the best in the world. You can get within 5-7 blocks of your destination by using the subway/bus.
- You can get almost every cuisine KNOWN TO MAN....
- There's endless shopping possibilities from expensive shit you can't even pronounce to buying a $5 Folex on Canal St.
- There are actually nice people who live in NYC who will stop to give you directions and who won't spit on you.
- Some of the most interesting people live in this city, including famous figures...
- THERE ARE JOBS AVAILABLE... If you can't find one, you must not be looking hard enough and/or want it bad enough...
- This city will make you ambitious... Come here a lazy ass and become super productive... (of course, this is all up to you)
- Endless amounts of activities, organizations, cultural venues...
- A short drive to the Atlantic, the Hamptons, Snowboarding, Hiking, Camping
to be continued...
1/29/2008
Mel F. says:
But I'm also born and raised New Yorker so I guess I should've been warned in the womb.
But I'm also born and raised New Yorker so I guess I should've been warned in the womb.
1/29/2008
Haley "drinking colt 45 because lando told me to" S. says:
Another native clocking in here:
When you want a slice of plain pizza call it a slice, or they'll think you're from Iowa.
If you order a burger with Mayo on it or a Pastrami sandwich on white bread they definitely will.
Hotels are the best source of public bathrooms and you will learn to blend in enough that you can sneak in and use one. The Hilton on 51st and the Grand Hyatt on 42nd are best bets because they're so big.
Learn the bus system. It's invaluable on the weekends and really the only way to get crosstown.
If you're transversing 42nd Street take the 7. The S is evil and full of tourists and you will never be able to figure out which track is leaving first.
Some chains are ok (Trader Joe's, Pinkberry)...some are not (Applebee's, Friday's)
You will learn many real estate holy grails...like the friend of a friend who has a $700 studio on avenue A that she got from her sister who lived there 15 years ago. You will hate her.
Another native clocking in here:
When you want a slice of plain pizza call it a slice, or they'll think you're from Iowa.
If you order a burger with Mayo on it or a Pastrami sandwich on white bread they definitely will.
Hotels are the best source of public bathrooms and you will learn to blend in enough that you can sneak in and use one. The Hilton on 51st and the Grand Hyatt on 42nd are best bets because they're so big.
Learn the bus system. It's invaluable on the weekends and really the only way to get crosstown.
If you're transversing 42nd Street take the 7. The S is evil and full of tourists and you will never be able to figure out which track is leaving first.
Some chains are ok (Trader Joe's, Pinkberry)...some are not (Applebee's, Friday's)
You will learn many real estate holy grails...like the friend of a friend who has a $700 studio on avenue A that she got from her sister who lived there 15 years ago. You will hate her.
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1/29/2008
Pierre "Da' Cuban" C. says:
Firt off: Born and raised in Manhattan - current Brooklyn resident
1) If you do not live in Manhattan you are known as "bridge and tunnel" and it is meant derogatory
2) To all of you non - New Yorkers, New York City = the 5 boroughs, not just Manhattan
3) Brooklyn is larger than Manhattan, more people, more parks, beaches, multi-million dollar mansions, not studios
4) Queens, exists as a place for Mets fans to live.
5) Staten Island is trying hard to become a Nascar city - btw, S.I. tried to secede from NYC twice, and for some reason the city did not let them
6) Manhattan is built on solid rock.
7) Alternate side parking sucks
8) Meter Maids exist to make your life suck
9) You should hate Boston if you live here
10) Do not live on an Ambulance block, i.e. 70th street East Side to
11) Being raised in the city is actually awesome
12) You can go to Beaches, with real sand and water via a subway
13) Only tourists have ever been to the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty or Circle Line
14) Manhattan is also on top of a fault line and has experienced earthquakes - although rare.
15) We are one of the most destroyed city in any movie
16) "Fuhgettaboutit" is pretty much only said in Brooklyn
17) People from Manhattan DO NOT have a NY accent (the cliche from TV) but we do say some words with a very new york twist, "coffee" for example.
18) You are not a New Yorker unless you were born here, you may feel like one through and through and we acknowledge your love for the city, but please it's like calling yourself an American just because you have a citizenship- lmao. ;) j/k you're NOT a New Yorker ------------------------------ ---------- NOOOOOOT. (Borat)
19) This list was too long for you
20) The New York Times can be folded better than Origami paper!
Firt off: Born and raised in Manhattan - current Brooklyn resident
1) If you do not live in Manhattan you are known as "bridge and tunnel" and it is meant derogatory
2) To all of you non - New Yorkers, New York City = the 5 boroughs, not just Manhattan
3) Brooklyn is larger than Manhattan, more people, more parks, beaches, multi-million dollar mansions, not studios
4) Queens, exists as a place for Mets fans to live.
5) Staten Island is trying hard to become a Nascar city - btw, S.I. tried to secede from NYC twice, and for some reason the city did not let them
6) Manhattan is built on solid rock.
7) Alternate side parking sucks
8) Meter Maids exist to make your life suck
9) You should hate Boston if you live here
10) Do not live on an Ambulance block, i.e. 70th street East Side to
11) Being raised in the city is actually awesome
12) You can go to Beaches, with real sand and water via a subway
13) Only tourists have ever been to the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty or Circle Line
14) Manhattan is also on top of a fault line and has experienced earthquakes - although rare.
15) We are one of the most destroyed city in any movie
16) "Fuhgettaboutit" is pretty much only said in Brooklyn
17) People from Manhattan DO NOT have a NY accent (the cliche from TV) but we do say some words with a very new york twist, "coffee" for example.
18) You are not a New Yorker unless you were born here, you may feel like one through and through and we acknowledge your love for the city, but please it's like calling yourself an American just because you have a citizenship- lmao. ;) j/k you're NOT a New Yorker ------------------------------ ---------- NOOOOOOT. (Borat)
19) This list was too long for you
20) The New York Times can be folded better than Origami paper!
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1/29/2008
Amy "Amita" S. says:
If you think someone is a crazy loon and talking to themselves..it is probably just a bluetooth. When they start punching walls and windows though, run the other way!
If you think someone is a crazy loon and talking to themselves..it is probably just a bluetooth. When they start punching walls and windows though, run the other way!
1/29/2008
Olivia "soon to be Mrs." G. says:
don't come here to eat at a chain restaurant... defeats the purpose
don't come here to eat at a chain restaurant... defeats the purpose
1/29/2008
andy t. says:
Slices are meant to be folded, like the NY Times or WSJ...a coffee shop and diner are completely different...eye contact on the street is strictly forbidden....downtown means below 14th Street...you can wear a hockey jersey at a hockey game (in fact, this is encouraged) but nowhere else....don't talk shit about our beaches (ie "California is so much better blah blah blah") until you've actually checked the good ones out...and never never NEVER wear a Red Sox cap in town...when did that become OK? I don't wear my Yankees cap in Boston (not that i ever go there).
Slices are meant to be folded, like the NY Times or WSJ...a coffee shop and diner are completely different...eye contact on the street is strictly forbidden....downtown means below 14th Street...you can wear a hockey jersey at a hockey game (in fact, this is encouraged) but nowhere else....don't talk shit about our beaches (ie "California is so much better blah blah blah") until you've actually checked the good ones out...and never never NEVER wear a Red Sox cap in town...when did that become OK? I don't wear my Yankees cap in Boston (not that i ever go there).
1/29/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
Since when do New Yorkers even pay attention to Boston?
You wouldn't go around paying attention to Philadelphia, would you? It's bigger and closer than Boston...
I guess it's a sports thing.
Since when do New Yorkers even pay attention to Boston?
You wouldn't go around paying attention to Philadelphia, would you? It's bigger and closer than Boston...
I guess it's a sports thing.
1/29/2008
Mel F. says:
hahahah Pierre C and andy t - great ones. especially the hockey jersey thing -SO TRUE!!!
hahahah Pierre C and andy t - great ones. especially the hockey jersey thing -SO TRUE!!!
1/29/2008
andy t. says:
CB M.
I do pay attention to Philly cause that's where my cousins live.
You are right, though, it's completely a sports thing.....
CB M.
I do pay attention to Philly cause that's where my cousins live.
You are right, though, it's completely a sports thing.....
1/29/2008
Jen "Sporky" D. says:
i hate Philly... and I used to live there, so I am allowed to say that. Hmmpphh...
i hate Philly... and I used to live there, so I am allowed to say that. Hmmpphh...
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JP B. says:
Being a sports fan here is fine, but advertising it to the world in any context outside of a game (or watching a game at a bar) is largely frowned upon, with the exception of the Yankees.
Being a sports fan here is fine, but advertising it to the world in any context outside of a game (or watching a game at a bar) is largely frowned upon, with the exception of the Yankees.
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Jon C. says:
This is definitely one of the funniest threads I have read.
My 2 cents, don't wear white socks unless you want yellow socks.
Having 2 cute dogs is a nice way to bring smiles to people's faces even on Wall Street.
Having to pay a street vendor and dollar for 3 bananas is Bananas.
Construction is everywhere all the time as is scaffolding and with the scaffolding its sometimes for no apparent reason.
A southern accent has helped tremendously as people let down their guard a bit ,thinking you are not that smart and then they spill their guts and show you who they really are, which can be either good or bad. Interesting but true.
More later.
This is definitely one of the funniest threads I have read.
My 2 cents, don't wear white socks unless you want yellow socks.
Having 2 cute dogs is a nice way to bring smiles to people's faces even on Wall Street.
Having to pay a street vendor and dollar for 3 bananas is Bananas.
Construction is everywhere all the time as is scaffolding and with the scaffolding its sometimes for no apparent reason.
A southern accent has helped tremendously as people let down their guard a bit ,thinking you are not that smart and then they spill their guts and show you who they really are, which can be either good or bad. Interesting but true.
More later.
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Connie M. says:
Just a comment on the "rudeness" of New Yorkers: rude is as rude does.
There are *ssholes in every city in America--NYC has more people, and so a greater proportion of *ssholes. I have found most people to be unfailingly helpful--they may not chat you up, but most people will help you with directions, etc. if you ask.
I've found that the best way to get decent service is to be friendly, smile and at least say "How are you?" to the cabbie, the bodega guy, even the notoriously surly Duane Reade staff. In fact, I make a point of chatting up cabbies because they have the BEST stories and also appreciate being acknowldeged as a human being. Plus, real conversation is 100% better than the mind-numbing blather coming out of the taxi TVs now.
Bottom line: if you put out good vibes, people will be nice to you. And a cute/friendly dog does help!
Just a comment on the "rudeness" of New Yorkers: rude is as rude does.
There are *ssholes in every city in America--NYC has more people, and so a greater proportion of *ssholes. I have found most people to be unfailingly helpful--they may not chat you up, but most people will help you with directions, etc. if you ask.
I've found that the best way to get decent service is to be friendly, smile and at least say "How are you?" to the cabbie, the bodega guy, even the notoriously surly Duane Reade staff. In fact, I make a point of chatting up cabbies because they have the BEST stories and also appreciate being acknowldeged as a human being. Plus, real conversation is 100% better than the mind-numbing blather coming out of the taxi TVs now.
Bottom line: if you put out good vibes, people will be nice to you. And a cute/friendly dog does help!
1/29/2008
Maria "The thrill is gone" M. says:
All the character will be seeped out of the city before you get there.
All the character will be seeped out of the city before you get there.
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1/29/2008
Mike D. says:
Don't be ashamed of using ear protection on the subway. The rail system is old and loud.. But enjoy the ride: You can enjoy a real connection with your fellow working poor on the 2:00 am Queens bound F train (just keep the good feelings to yourself).
Don't be ashamed of using ear protection on the subway. The rail system is old and loud.. But enjoy the ride: You can enjoy a real connection with your fellow working poor on the 2:00 am Queens bound F train (just keep the good feelings to yourself).
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1/29/2008
Brad V. says:
True Story: I grew up in Mass. a Red Sox fan. I've lived in Brooklyn 7 years now. My first year here I wore a Red Sox shirt outside my apartment to go grab a pizza 3 blocks away. I made it one block before an elderly man I did not know called me an *sshole. I just smiled and shrugged. He smiled back and laughed.
I think that hating all things Boston is almost a reflex here. I just keep a sense of humor about it and it is usually fine. Besides people in Boston are just as brutal to folks wearing Yankees gear. I was only scared once at a Yanks game when some drunk dudes started chanting "Kill the Red Sox Fans" and overturning trash barrels.
True Story: I grew up in Mass. a Red Sox fan. I've lived in Brooklyn 7 years now. My first year here I wore a Red Sox shirt outside my apartment to go grab a pizza 3 blocks away. I made it one block before an elderly man I did not know called me an *sshole. I just smiled and shrugged. He smiled back and laughed.
I think that hating all things Boston is almost a reflex here. I just keep a sense of humor about it and it is usually fine. Besides people in Boston are just as brutal to folks wearing Yankees gear. I was only scared once at a Yanks game when some drunk dudes started chanting "Kill the Red Sox Fans" and overturning trash barrels.
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jacqueline w. says:
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned drop off wash and fold laundry service. Its fantastic. Also, $15 mani/pedi's around every corner so you have no excuse for dirty fingernails.
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned drop off wash and fold laundry service. Its fantastic. Also, $15 mani/pedi's around every corner so you have no excuse for dirty fingernails.
1/29/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
"I can't believe that nobody has mentioned drop off wash and fold laundry service."
Or the flipside, that washer and dryer is pretty much illegal in apartments built before the 1960s. (water pressure issues, I think, leading to burst pipes??)
It's a racket to protect the dry cleaners and laundry service lobby, I say!
"I can't believe that nobody has mentioned drop off wash and fold laundry service."
Or the flipside, that washer and dryer is pretty much illegal in apartments built before the 1960s. (water pressure issues, I think, leading to burst pipes??)
It's a racket to protect the dry cleaners and laundry service lobby, I say!
1/29/2008
andy t. says:
Oh you're coming into town and you want a ride from the airport? Haaaaaahaaaaaa!
Oh you're coming into town and you want a ride from the airport? Haaaaaahaaaaaa!
1/29/2008
Karen "Sweeney" M. says:
...that you'd be temping for a full year because you can't find a full-time job three years after graduating cum laude from NYU.
Wow, I'm a loser.
...that you'd be temping for a full year because you can't find a full-time job three years after graduating cum laude from NYU.
Wow, I'm a loser.
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1/29/2008
Kristin A. says:
.... that if you're lucky a pimp who wears only silver (down to his silver false eyelashes) will chillax on your block and you will see him everyday as you get off the subway and he will smile at you in a way that makes you think he might be considering ways to add you to his harem. I named mine "Sir Sparkles" His flair made me smile. Why did I move to Greenwich again??
.... that if you're lucky a pimp who wears only silver (down to his silver false eyelashes) will chillax on your block and you will see him everyday as you get off the subway and he will smile at you in a way that makes you think he might be considering ways to add you to his harem. I named mine "Sir Sparkles" His flair made me smile. Why did I move to Greenwich again??
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1/29/2008
Allyson M. says:
- the Q train is the best
- you'll end up incorporating 1 or more Yiddish words in your everyday conversation and not realize it until a friend from back home asks you what "schlep" means.
- you'll justify the high rent by purchasing most of your furniture at Target or Ikea
- you'll eventually plan out which subway car is closest to the exit at your stop...but until then, tons of wrong trains will be taken
- feeling like a newbie and staring at the subway map is better than getting lost
FYI: Wall street used to actually be a wall that the Dutch settlers built to keep the Native Americans out of their settlements at the southernmost section of Manhattan. The circus that are the streets just north of that used to be the Native American footpaths....
- you'll love the city so much that you get really excited about it's history and what makes it what it is.
- the Q train is the best
- you'll end up incorporating 1 or more Yiddish words in your everyday conversation and not realize it until a friend from back home asks you what "schlep" means.
- you'll justify the high rent by purchasing most of your furniture at Target or Ikea
- you'll eventually plan out which subway car is closest to the exit at your stop...but until then, tons of wrong trains will be taken
- feeling like a newbie and staring at the subway map is better than getting lost
FYI: Wall street used to actually be a wall that the Dutch settlers built to keep the Native Americans out of their settlements at the southernmost section of Manhattan. The circus that are the streets just north of that used to be the Native American footpaths....
- you'll love the city so much that you get really excited about it's history and what makes it what it is.
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Lindsay D. says:
Aaawww Karen I am so in the same boat. But I'm working at a fine retail establishment.
Aaawww Karen I am so in the same boat. But I'm working at a fine retail establishment.
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Ken C. says:
You need to make good money to live in Manhattan because everything is expensive. I hope you have a unlimited creditcard from your parent...
You need to make good money to live in Manhattan because everything is expensive. I hope you have a unlimited creditcard from your parent...
1/29/2008
Maria "The thrill is gone" M. says:
I second Natalia's. But I knew that before I got to NYC too. Here, it takes on a new meaning, and that can be both good and bad.
I second Natalia's. But I knew that before I got to NYC too. Here, it takes on a new meaning, and that can be both good and bad.
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1/29/2008
Mindy Z. says:
That sometimes you have to remind yourself of the city you live in and how many people would kill to be here/live here/etc.
If you have never been to the city before you move here, do NOT hype it up....when I moved here for college I met many disappointed, disillusioned people....this has less to do with the city itself than the fact that high expectations beget disappointment.
That sometimes you have to remind yourself of the city you live in and how many people would kill to be here/live here/etc.
If you have never been to the city before you move here, do NOT hype it up....when I moved here for college I met many disappointed, disillusioned people....this has less to do with the city itself than the fact that high expectations beget disappointment.
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1/29/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
"- you'll eventually plan out which subway car is closest to the exit at your stop..."
It's called "pre-walking". While you're waiting, you walk down the platform to the right car so that you don't have any wasted steps at the other end.
You also learn to snicker at the people who wait for the stop while facing the doors on the wrong side of the car. Tourists! Out of towners! Get out of my way! I OWN THIS STOP
"- you'll eventually plan out which subway car is closest to the exit at your stop..."
It's called "pre-walking". While you're waiting, you walk down the platform to the right car so that you don't have any wasted steps at the other end.
You also learn to snicker at the people who wait for the stop while facing the doors on the wrong side of the car. Tourists! Out of towners! Get out of my way! I OWN THIS STOP
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Megan C. says:
All the homeless people feel the need to entertain you. Even though the majority of the time it is not that entertaining.
The kids selling candy on the subway are not on a basketball team raising money.
And the little lady selling flashlights down below will never fail and always be selling her batteries when/if there is a blackout.
All the homeless people feel the need to entertain you. Even though the majority of the time it is not that entertaining.
The kids selling candy on the subway are not on a basketball team raising money.
And the little lady selling flashlights down below will never fail and always be selling her batteries when/if there is a blackout.
1/30/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
If you come here and don't like it, leave. Whatever you do, don't talk shit to a native New Yorker about NY.
If you come here and don't like it, leave. Whatever you do, don't talk shit to a native New Yorker about NY.
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1/30/2008
Richard H. says:
Nobody's talking ishh. They're just telling it like it is. Everybody's entitled to a viewpoint/opinion. Ease up folks!
Nobody's talking ishh. They're just telling it like it is. Everybody's entitled to a viewpoint/opinion. Ease up folks!
1/30/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, no doubt. But when peeps come here from (insert state name here) and start complaining about how much they dislike New York it really goads those of us who remember when New York was not such a sunny place to live. Back in those days, Avenue C stood for "Call the Coroner"
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, no doubt. But when peeps come here from (insert state name here) and start complaining about how much they dislike New York it really goads those of us who remember when New York was not such a sunny place to live. Back in those days, Avenue C stood for "Call the Coroner"
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Ny is an amazing place full of opportunity. People have come here from all over the world with nothing and made whatever they wanted to make of their lives.
If you're coming here you'll be swimming with weights on your feet but don't worry either you'll get stronger and be able to swim or you'll just head off to the next place.
Frank Sinatra was an intelligent man who people quote for a reason.
Ny is an amazing place full of opportunity. People have come here from all over the world with nothing and made whatever they wanted to make of their lives.
If you're coming here you'll be swimming with weights on your feet but don't worry either you'll get stronger and be able to swim or you'll just head off to the next place.
Frank Sinatra was an intelligent man who people quote for a reason.
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Oh... and Alex (and other "Native New Yorkers") get off your high horse. NYC was an island with trees and grass and animals at one point... with NO people. Everyone came here from somewhere else so have a little respect that someone would want a little warning about things they didn't expect from the concrete jungle. You sound like a spoiled brat with a silver spoon in your mouth. Just because you think you're a member of the lucky sperm club doesn't mean that other people can't talk about NYC's quirkiness. I'd be willing to bet at some point your family came here from somewhere else too. Just because you didn't leave it's your choice. The city is whatever it is going to be, it lives it breathes and has it's own pulse.
I think this thread is quite comical. There were a lot of things I didn't expect when I came to NYC but then again I came to the city because of the unlimited possibilities. I love the culture, i love that so many people from around the world come here and I could give a rats about what generation ended up here first and who Claims to be a "real New Yorker" -- I'm just happy to be exposed to so many different types of people and so many amazing opportunities to learn and grow.
Sometimes I think people who come here from somewhere else get much more out of the city than the people who have just been around it all their lives. Not all but some.
Oh... and Alex (and other "Native New Yorkers") get off your high horse. NYC was an island with trees and grass and animals at one point... with NO people. Everyone came here from somewhere else so have a little respect that someone would want a little warning about things they didn't expect from the concrete jungle. You sound like a spoiled brat with a silver spoon in your mouth. Just because you think you're a member of the lucky sperm club doesn't mean that other people can't talk about NYC's quirkiness. I'd be willing to bet at some point your family came here from somewhere else too. Just because you didn't leave it's your choice. The city is whatever it is going to be, it lives it breathes and has it's own pulse.
I think this thread is quite comical. There were a lot of things I didn't expect when I came to NYC but then again I came to the city because of the unlimited possibilities. I love the culture, i love that so many people from around the world come here and I could give a rats about what generation ended up here first and who Claims to be a "real New Yorker" -- I'm just happy to be exposed to so many different types of people and so many amazing opportunities to learn and grow.
Sometimes I think people who come here from somewhere else get much more out of the city than the people who have just been around it all their lives. Not all but some.
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Honestly it's a shame if you call yourself a New Yorker and have never been to the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island or the Empire State Building.
Honestly it's a shame if you call yourself a New Yorker and have never been to the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island or the Empire State Building.
1/30/2008
Eric "Always hungry" S. says:
ha! OMG! I am so getting a kick out of this thread!!!!
(Atlanta boy)
ha! OMG! I am so getting a kick out of this thread!!!!
(Atlanta boy)
1/30/2008
Robin "Slippery When Wet" Z. says:
My brother and I were wearing New York Yankees t-shirts in Biloxi, Mississippi, once. Why didn't anyone tell us we couldn't do that? That was my first ass-whomping.
My brother and I were wearing New York Yankees t-shirts in Biloxi, Mississippi, once. Why didn't anyone tell us we couldn't do that? That was my first ass-whomping.
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1/30/2008
Patrick "4 Drink Whore" D. says:
Your neighbors WILL hear you having sex through the walls. Therefore...provide dialog.
Your neighbors WILL hear you having sex through the walls. Therefore...provide dialog.
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Scott M. says:
This is the only city I've been to that has a warning sign that you may get killed if you J-walk at this certain 5 point intersection. That rocked.
This is the only city I've been to that has a warning sign that you may get killed if you J-walk at this certain 5 point intersection. That rocked.
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1/30/2008
Mike M. says:
Reading this depressing thread makes me glad I live in Fresno. Clean, safe, new, not congested, affordable and friendly by comparison.
Best to all New Yorkers.
Reading this depressing thread makes me glad I live in Fresno. Clean, safe, new, not congested, affordable and friendly by comparison.
Best to all New Yorkers.
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
Megan well said!
I'm a native NY'er who still gets teary eyes when I see the stature of Liberty.
Alex- drop the tough guy stance, really.
Quick question to everyone on this thread...how do you tell the difference between a native New Yorker and a transplant?
Megan well said!
I'm a native NY'er who still gets teary eyes when I see the stature of Liberty.
Alex- drop the tough guy stance, really.
Quick question to everyone on this thread...how do you tell the difference between a native New Yorker and a transplant?
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Nicole R. says:
"We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities."
Or the "love it or leave it" crap--
Get off it. Just because someone who manages to notice differences in New York from other cities and mentions them doesn't mean they want it to turn into a fucking strip mall or that they wish things could be different (well, except for the expensive part). The fact is, New York IS dirtier than most other US cities because the lack of green space prevents dirt and dust from settling anywhere and because there are no alleys so the garbage has to be put right out in front of the buildings. But that's...OK! That and other observations are just that...observations, not knocks or necessarily negatives. I love NY, it's my favorite place in the world, I'd do anything to be able to afford to live there again, and I did nothing but decry the gentrification and Disneyfication that Giuliani did nothing but accelerate when he was mayor before I had to move away. Just because I have noticed that my skin has changed for the better since I moved to Chicago from New York or that my boogers are no longer black doesn't mean I want a Starbucks on every corner or that I want NY to lose what makes it unique.
Megan, well said, and thanks for the heads up on this thread. :)
"We natives' anger does not come from some kind of visceral xenophobic reaction, it comes from the genuine feeling that maybe some folks move here and want it to be just like where they're from. Over the years I've seen our City become more homogenized, and also much less affordable. Many of the things that make our town special are being replaced by things that can be found anywhere else in America. I think a lot of people all over the world have this same feeling about their cities."
Or the "love it or leave it" crap--
Get off it. Just because someone who manages to notice differences in New York from other cities and mentions them doesn't mean they want it to turn into a fucking strip mall or that they wish things could be different (well, except for the expensive part). The fact is, New York IS dirtier than most other US cities because the lack of green space prevents dirt and dust from settling anywhere and because there are no alleys so the garbage has to be put right out in front of the buildings. But that's...OK! That and other observations are just that...observations, not knocks or necessarily negatives. I love NY, it's my favorite place in the world, I'd do anything to be able to afford to live there again, and I did nothing but decry the gentrification and Disneyfication that Giuliani did nothing but accelerate when he was mayor before I had to move away. Just because I have noticed that my skin has changed for the better since I moved to Chicago from New York or that my boogers are no longer black doesn't mean I want a Starbucks on every corner or that I want NY to lose what makes it unique.
Megan, well said, and thanks for the heads up on this thread. :)
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Hahaha Mike NY is great!! If you're looking for what it offers. :o) Some people come for a day, a month, a year or a lifetime. Some never make it but NY certainly has an effect on all of us no matter where we live. That's what is so amazing.
Hahaha Mike NY is great!! If you're looking for what it offers. :o) Some people come for a day, a month, a year or a lifetime. Some never make it but NY certainly has an effect on all of us no matter where we live. That's what is so amazing.
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
I agree Nicole would hate to see NYC turn into Disneyland or Midwestville.
I love its charm and history.
I agree Nicole would hate to see NYC turn into Disneyland or Midwestville.
I love its charm and history.
1/30/2008
Nicolas "Pret a Manger" H. says:
Love you Meghan C. Way to state the plain and simple truth that we all know...but you said it in your own wonderful way. HUGS!
Things that I didn't know about when I went to NYC that I would have loved to know beforehand...
1. People will plow into you if you are walking along the street. [This happened to me]
2. When people plow into you, they expect you to apologize. [Since I was walking on the right section of the sidewalk, as opposed to the left section, and had large bags in my hand, when the man said "Oh...excuse you sir." I replied back - quite pleasantly - "I'm so sorry that this sidewalk is not paved with gold so your fat ass isn't happy your majesty. Try some respect, or catch a fucking cab!" My NYC friend thought that appropriate.]
3. When you walk outside, your nose will freeze to the point of feeling like it's going to break. Trust me...it will not break...but it will hurt for a moment.
4. Do not give dirty looks to people in restaurants of bars drinking at 10AM on a Tuesday. [Because if so, you might have been giving me dirty looks. WHAT?! I was on vacation!]
5. You always find out about the cool folks, like Meghan C., AFTER you leave. :(
Love you Meghan C. Way to state the plain and simple truth that we all know...but you said it in your own wonderful way. HUGS!
Things that I didn't know about when I went to NYC that I would have loved to know beforehand...
1. People will plow into you if you are walking along the street. [This happened to me]
2. When people plow into you, they expect you to apologize. [Since I was walking on the right section of the sidewalk, as opposed to the left section, and had large bags in my hand, when the man said "Oh...excuse you sir." I replied back - quite pleasantly - "I'm so sorry that this sidewalk is not paved with gold so your fat ass isn't happy your majesty. Try some respect, or catch a fucking cab!" My NYC friend thought that appropriate.]
3. When you walk outside, your nose will freeze to the point of feeling like it's going to break. Trust me...it will not break...but it will hurt for a moment.
4. Do not give dirty looks to people in restaurants of bars drinking at 10AM on a Tuesday. [Because if so, you might have been giving me dirty looks. WHAT?! I was on vacation!]
5. You always find out about the cool folks, like Meghan C., AFTER you leave. :(
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
Real New Yorkers are friendly, will give you directions and help out tourists
the transplants are the nasty ones, why? Because all they know of NYC is from the movies, so they figure the only way they can survive here is to be nasty and rude.
Real New Yorkers may be moving at light speed, but we're not nasty....most of the time. It's only when the tourists stand in the middle of the sidewalk and refuse to move that many New Yorkers wish they had a machete.
Real New Yorkers are friendly, will give you directions and help out tourists
the transplants are the nasty ones, why? Because all they know of NYC is from the movies, so they figure the only way they can survive here is to be nasty and rude.
Real New Yorkers may be moving at light speed, but we're not nasty....most of the time. It's only when the tourists stand in the middle of the sidewalk and refuse to move that many New Yorkers wish they had a machete.
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Pierre "Da' Cuban" C. says:
Great Points Megan! But sorry going to the statue voluntarily is a rarity for any New Yorker, you are too busy to do it generally - and who REALLY wants to get in the way of tourists having fun, lol. I have been there, but never for my own pleasure, for family, out of towners, etc. I agree it is sad to not go to such wonderful things that are at your fingertips - but the one thing you must know when you move to NYC:
You will ALWAYS have something better to do.
On the flip side, there is not a museum, show, or sports team I have not visited.
Ellis Island now - that is another deal all together - awesome.
Back to the thread:
1) You Should Tip your Super and Doormen - ONCE a year - at Christmas, you do not need to tip them daily/weekly, just ask a long time resident in the building what the usual custom is.
2) Tipping the Super or Doorman is always a good idea, even a bottle of wine, or a thank you note - it makes them faster to respond
3) Tip everyone.
4) A good tip is relative to the acitivity and savings - i.e. if they just saved you $100 bucks, tip $20 at least.
5) Restaurants at least 15%! if you want to keep up with inflation 18-20, and for great service, parties of 5 or more tip at least 18%
6) Cash tips are better.
7) You can report Cabbies for not stopping
8) IT IS ILLEGAL FOR CABS TO NOT ACCEPT C.C. if they have the machine!!!!! You can refuse to pay and leave the cab if they do not accept it - tell a cop and they will get a ticket.
9) Cabs cannot repeat - CANNOT refuse rides to boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, S.I., Bronx) You must pay tolls
- report them if they do
10) The ORIGINAL "Patsy's" is Grimaldi's at the base of the Brooklyn bridge - "Patsy Grimaldi" lost it's name to the franchise.
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Great Points Megan! But sorry going to the statue voluntarily is a rarity for any New Yorker, you are too busy to do it generally - and who REALLY wants to get in the way of tourists having fun, lol. I have been there, but never for my own pleasure, for family, out of towners, etc. I agree it is sad to not go to such wonderful things that are at your fingertips - but the one thing you must know when you move to NYC:
You will ALWAYS have something better to do.
On the flip side, there is not a museum, show, or sports team I have not visited.
Ellis Island now - that is another deal all together - awesome.
Back to the thread:
1) You Should Tip your Super and Doormen - ONCE a year - at Christmas, you do not need to tip them daily/weekly, just ask a long time resident in the building what the usual custom is.
2) Tipping the Super or Doorman is always a good idea, even a bottle of wine, or a thank you note - it makes them faster to respond
3) Tip everyone.
4) A good tip is relative to the acitivity and savings - i.e. if they just saved you $100 bucks, tip $20 at least.
5) Restaurants at least 15%! if you want to keep up with inflation 18-20, and for great service, parties of 5 or more tip at least 18%
6) Cash tips are better.
7) You can report Cabbies for not stopping
8) IT IS ILLEGAL FOR CABS TO NOT ACCEPT C.C. if they have the machine!!!!! You can refuse to pay and leave the cab if they do not accept it - tell a cop and they will get a ticket.
9) Cabs cannot repeat - CANNOT refuse rides to boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, S.I., Bronx) You must pay tolls
- report them if they do
10) The ORIGINAL "Patsy's" is Grimaldi's at the base of the Brooklyn bridge - "Patsy Grimaldi" lost it's name to the franchise.
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1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
That's true PJ - I think I was shocked by how friendly NYers really were.
Hahaha and yea there is a bit of annoying sidewalk congestion but hey it's a great workout walking around the city all the time.
I love that when you go out you don't have to worry about who's driving your friends home you stick them in a cab and send them home with their keys sooo much easier to have a couple glasses or wine or a crazy night out.
That's true PJ - I think I was shocked by how friendly NYers really were.
Hahaha and yea there is a bit of annoying sidewalk congestion but hey it's a great workout walking around the city all the time.
I love that when you go out you don't have to worry about who's driving your friends home you stick them in a cab and send them home with their keys sooo much easier to have a couple glasses or wine or a crazy night out.
1/30/2008
Josh "Team Fist Shakers: Get Off My Lawn!" R. says:
Haha PJ, I avoid Times Sq. because I don't have a machete. But I am sure I can find one in this city!
Haha PJ, I avoid Times Sq. because I don't have a machete. But I am sure I can find one in this city!
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jonathan h. says:
Hi transplants. This is from a lifelong NYC'er. Welcome :)
I love the transplants. Most of my friends are now transplants, if only because there are so few born-and-bred New Yorkers left. The revitalize the city, and they give us hard-boiled natives someone to pick on ;) Can't tell you how many folks I've taught that (E)ven numbered streets tend to go (E)ste, and that (O)dd numbered streets tend to go (O)este.
There are a few things about newcomers, tho, that get to me. The reason why we have things like Outback steakhouses is because transplants feel the need to still eat that crap after arriving in a city that has amazing food for any budget. Saddens me to see Domino's boxes in the garbage. My landlord hates me because I'm the only one in my building that knows what Rent Stabilization is, and makes sure he adheres to it. Sad to see newbs paying $1500 more than me, but them's the breaks. Oh, and newbies? Stay to the right when you walk. If everyone moves right, you're less likely to get in my way.
Oh, and my personal peeve: there are no "red lines", "green lines", etc. in the Subway. This ain't Boston. Everyone knows that there's the IRT, the BMT, and the IND lines :)
Otherwise, glad to you have you around. It seems that transplants typically represent the brightest and best looking of wherever they come from, no complaints there. All comments made strictly in jest. I kid! I kid!
Hi transplants. This is from a lifelong NYC'er. Welcome :)
I love the transplants. Most of my friends are now transplants, if only because there are so few born-and-bred New Yorkers left. The revitalize the city, and they give us hard-boiled natives someone to pick on ;) Can't tell you how many folks I've taught that (E)ven numbered streets tend to go (E)ste, and that (O)dd numbered streets tend to go (O)este.
There are a few things about newcomers, tho, that get to me. The reason why we have things like Outback steakhouses is because transplants feel the need to still eat that crap after arriving in a city that has amazing food for any budget. Saddens me to see Domino's boxes in the garbage. My landlord hates me because I'm the only one in my building that knows what Rent Stabilization is, and makes sure he adheres to it. Sad to see newbs paying $1500 more than me, but them's the breaks. Oh, and newbies? Stay to the right when you walk. If everyone moves right, you're less likely to get in my way.
Oh, and my personal peeve: there are no "red lines", "green lines", etc. in the Subway. This ain't Boston. Everyone knows that there's the IRT, the BMT, and the IND lines :)
Otherwise, glad to you have you around. It seems that transplants typically represent the brightest and best looking of wherever they come from, no complaints there. All comments made strictly in jest. I kid! I kid!
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
Hey Josh, I remember when Times Square had a Tad's steakhouse, tkts booth and a ton of sleezy peep bars. Now it looks like the set of Ridley Scott movie. I avoid it at all costs. It's heinous.
Hey Josh, I remember when Times Square had a Tad's steakhouse, tkts booth and a ton of sleezy peep bars. Now it looks like the set of Ridley Scott movie. I avoid it at all costs. It's heinous.
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Pierre "Da' Cuban" C. says:
Real New Yorker: I want to just quantify something, are talking NY the state or City - Did you guys know that upstate NY'ers sort of hate us in the city? well, let' ssay are sort of pissy b/c when they travel out of NY, and say they are from NY, everyone assumes the "city" so they have a chip on their shoulder... I found that learning very interesting.
Native NYC resident: Unquantifiable. The mosaic, stock, character of a NY'er is so diverse that you can never tell. What I can safely say, a Native NY'er is less likely to go to chain restaurants - especially Olive Garden. (note - less likely)
Non- Native: Unqantifiable as well. We are all not native, at some point. But, I would think that non native NY'ers are only identifiable if they are here less than 2 years. Because after 2 years, you are probably in a lease, obsess over real estate, know the good places to go eat, the right way to walk down stairs, or down a sidewalk, you understand uptown/downtown/midtown/east side/west side/Gramercy/Sutton/LEs, NoLita,etc.... and the NRT. You "pre-walk" on trains (LMAO), etc.
OH! A Non Native NY'er DEFINITELY would root for a non NY team. I am sorry, but a native NYC resident would be caught dead rooting for outside teams - for at least ONE sport, NHL,MLB, NFL, NBA - you have to have ONE NY team that you root for... if you moved from bsoton here 20 years ago, and still root for the Sox - IDC how much you love this city - you are not welcome ;) ..............i kid, srsly, love ya neway, but come on...?!?!!!
Real New Yorker: I want to just quantify something, are talking NY the state or City - Did you guys know that upstate NY'ers sort of hate us in the city? well, let' ssay are sort of pissy b/c when they travel out of NY, and say they are from NY, everyone assumes the "city" so they have a chip on their shoulder... I found that learning very interesting.
Native NYC resident: Unquantifiable. The mosaic, stock, character of a NY'er is so diverse that you can never tell. What I can safely say, a Native NY'er is less likely to go to chain restaurants - especially Olive Garden. (note - less likely)
Non- Native: Unqantifiable as well. We are all not native, at some point. But, I would think that non native NY'ers are only identifiable if they are here less than 2 years. Because after 2 years, you are probably in a lease, obsess over real estate, know the good places to go eat, the right way to walk down stairs, or down a sidewalk, you understand uptown/downtown/midtown/east side/west side/Gramercy/Sutton/LEs, NoLita,etc.... and the NRT. You "pre-walk" on trains (LMAO), etc.
OH! A Non Native NY'er DEFINITELY would root for a non NY team. I am sorry, but a native NYC resident would be caught dead rooting for outside teams - for at least ONE sport, NHL,MLB, NFL, NBA - you have to have ONE NY team that you root for... if you moved from bsoton here 20 years ago, and still root for the Sox - IDC how much you love this city - you are not welcome ;) ..............i kid, srsly, love ya neway, but come on...?!?!!!
1/30/2008
JoJo "the Jo-jitsu Master" C. says:
There are a ton of free things to do and UNLIMITED DRINK BRUNCH specials on weekends!!
YAY!! NYC!!
There are a ton of free things to do and UNLIMITED DRINK BRUNCH specials on weekends!!
YAY!! NYC!!
1/30/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
I'm certainly not taking a "tough guy stance" about this. And I'm certainly not trying to stir shit up. But not for nothing: it is a totally different place to someone from here whether or not you want to believe it.
I'm just saying that people should appreciate what the city has become and to those of us who are from here and yes, choose to stay its a different thing than it will be for someone else. New York is a singular place, with its own rhythms and idiosyncracies. Every town has them but here they are more magnified because of the intense pace of the city. People who move here, choose to stay, and complain about it do it a disservice. They also disrespect the work and sacrifice put into this town to make it the safe, clean, fun place it is today by people who were here long before they decided they wanted to move to NY when they dis it.
Some of us just love this place. And we welcome everyone who comes here with open arms. Yes, we are the nicest people on the street in my experience. I love giving out directions to visitors and helping newbies. Its like showing off your favorite thing to a new friend. Observations and insights are one thing; I'm talking about out and out dissing.
And getting to the original theme of the thread: If a cab driver's light is on unoccupied he HAS to take you. Don't stand on the curb asking to be let into the car. Just get in.
I'm certainly not taking a "tough guy stance" about this. And I'm certainly not trying to stir shit up. But not for nothing: it is a totally different place to someone from here whether or not you want to believe it.
I'm just saying that people should appreciate what the city has become and to those of us who are from here and yes, choose to stay its a different thing than it will be for someone else. New York is a singular place, with its own rhythms and idiosyncracies. Every town has them but here they are more magnified because of the intense pace of the city. People who move here, choose to stay, and complain about it do it a disservice. They also disrespect the work and sacrifice put into this town to make it the safe, clean, fun place it is today by people who were here long before they decided they wanted to move to NY when they dis it.
Some of us just love this place. And we welcome everyone who comes here with open arms. Yes, we are the nicest people on the street in my experience. I love giving out directions to visitors and helping newbies. Its like showing off your favorite thing to a new friend. Observations and insights are one thing; I'm talking about out and out dissing.
And getting to the original theme of the thread: If a cab driver's light is on unoccupied he HAS to take you. Don't stand on the curb asking to be let into the car. Just get in.
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jonathan h. says:
To expand on Alex' cab tip: if they still won't take you, do one of the following:
- Stay in the car and tell them you're not getting out and not to start the meter until they do. In fact, tell them to call a cop.
- Pull out your cell phone and tell them that you're calling TLC (the phone# is posted prominently) to report them. Even at night - you'll leave a message.
Both of those work 99% of the time, but don't push it. Cabbies have been known to get out the tire iron when they're cranky.
It isn't as bad as it used to be, but living in Brooklyn is tough with the cabs.
To expand on Alex' cab tip: if they still won't take you, do one of the following:
- Stay in the car and tell them you're not getting out and not to start the meter until they do. In fact, tell them to call a cop.
- Pull out your cell phone and tell them that you're calling TLC (the phone# is posted prominently) to report them. Even at night - you'll leave a message.
Both of those work 99% of the time, but don't push it. Cabbies have been known to get out the tire iron when they're cranky.
It isn't as bad as it used to be, but living in Brooklyn is tough with the cabs.
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
Regarding the cab thing, you can take them to court- they do have "cabbie court," it's not the real name, I forgot, but it's run by the taxi and limousine commission.
I had a taxi driver, who refused to go the route I wanted, went through Central Park instead- even after I told him not to- he did because it would drive his fare up, cursed me out etc., I wrote down his license number and called in a complaint.
We had an appearance in front of a cabbie judge, the cab driver couldn't tell him where north, south, east or west was, couldn't answer basic route questions. Turns out that he had been brought before the court before on the very same charges. In the end he was fined $300.
Regarding the cab thing, you can take them to court- they do have "cabbie court," it's not the real name, I forgot, but it's run by the taxi and limousine commission.
I had a taxi driver, who refused to go the route I wanted, went through Central Park instead- even after I told him not to- he did because it would drive his fare up, cursed me out etc., I wrote down his license number and called in a complaint.
We had an appearance in front of a cabbie judge, the cab driver couldn't tell him where north, south, east or west was, couldn't answer basic route questions. Turns out that he had been brought before the court before on the very same charges. In the end he was fined $300.
1/30/2008
Mike V. says:
In the words of some wise dude, nothing good comes easy.
Absent all these wonderful intricacies and inconveniences EVERYONE would come to New York. I personally, LOVE NY (but would never wear the T-shirt). I lost something dear when I finally lost my accent age 12 (of course I gain the ability to pronounce the letter "R"...thank you Sesame Street).
And if all these fantastic quirks were absent, all those bat-crazy western hippies, dim-witted Midwesterners, oh-too-factious-for-their-own- good Southerners, and stuck-up Tom-Brady-Loving-pricks from the NE would probably move to NY.
PS: Dear God, please give Umenyiora, Tuck and Strahan the strength to bury Brady 2 feet in the turf on the opening drive. (and every drive from there on out)
Thanks big guy.
In the words of some wise dude, nothing good comes easy.
Absent all these wonderful intricacies and inconveniences EVERYONE would come to New York. I personally, LOVE NY (but would never wear the T-shirt). I lost something dear when I finally lost my accent age 12 (of course I gain the ability to pronounce the letter "R"...thank you Sesame Street).
And if all these fantastic quirks were absent, all those bat-crazy western hippies, dim-witted Midwesterners, oh-too-factious-for-their-own- good Southerners, and stuck-up Tom-Brady-Loving-pricks from the NE would probably move to NY.
PS: Dear God, please give Umenyiora, Tuck and Strahan the strength to bury Brady 2 feet in the turf on the opening drive. (and every drive from there on out)
Thanks big guy.
1/30/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
Mike V. I second your emotion about Strahan, Umenyiora and Tuck. Cabbie court is like the boogeyman to cab drivers. Most of them are so scared of getting written up that all you have to do is pull out your cellphone when they balk about taking you anywhere. I wonder what they do to them behind closed doors ...
Mike V. I second your emotion about Strahan, Umenyiora and Tuck. Cabbie court is like the boogeyman to cab drivers. Most of them are so scared of getting written up that all you have to do is pull out your cellphone when they balk about taking you anywhere. I wonder what they do to them behind closed doors ...
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Cabbie court!!?? Nice. Had no idea that existed.
I can only imagine the stories they tell there.
Cabbie court!!?? Nice. Had no idea that existed.
I can only imagine the stories they tell there.
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
They have two entrances- one for cabbies and one for the victim- you only meet in the judge's chamber. The chamber is his office.
They have two entrances- one for cabbies and one for the victim- you only meet in the judge's chamber. The chamber is his office.
1/30/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
The city doesn't stop at Manhattan. Go to Brooklyn and Queens early and often and you'll find a whole world other than the one you've seen on TV.
The city doesn't stop at Manhattan. Go to Brooklyn and Queens early and often and you'll find a whole world other than the one you've seen on TV.
1/30/2008
andy t. says:
Do they have a court for Dial 7? I am still pissed that this driver ripped me off $2 last week...it was too early to realize....Damn him!
Do they have a court for Dial 7? I am still pissed that this driver ripped me off $2 last week...it was too early to realize....Damn him!
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Ben "there, done that" W. says:
When asked if you have a minute for any venerable charity on the street from a person on the street with a clipboard...
always say no.
You also don't like comedy if asked.
When asked if you have a minute for any venerable charity on the street from a person on the street with a clipboard...
always say no.
You also don't like comedy if asked.
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1/30/2008
Josh "Tenacious" G. says:
Where's the Megan C. fan club thread?
BTW: Unless it's snowing, NYC is one UUUUUUUUUUUUGLY place during the winter time. Which is just a good excuse to come kick it in SF, where everything turns green during the winter. And when it's raining here, it's usually dumping snow up in Tahoe.
Love it.
Where's the Megan C. fan club thread?
BTW: Unless it's snowing, NYC is one UUUUUUUUUUUUGLY place during the winter time. Which is just a good excuse to come kick it in SF, where everything turns green during the winter. And when it's raining here, it's usually dumping snow up in Tahoe.
Love it.
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Josh "Tenacious" G. says:
Where's the Megan C. fan club thread?
BTW: Unless it's snowing, NYC is one UUUUUUUUUUUUGLY place during the winter time. Which is just a good excuse to come kick it in SF, where everything turns green during the winter. And when it's raining here, it's usually dumping snow up in Tahoe.
Love it.
Where's the Megan C. fan club thread?
BTW: Unless it's snowing, NYC is one UUUUUUUUUUUUGLY place during the winter time. Which is just a good excuse to come kick it in SF, where everything turns green during the winter. And when it's raining here, it's usually dumping snow up in Tahoe.
Love it.
1/30/2008
Laurence H. says:
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
You should have moved to San Francisco.
Things you should have been told before you moved to NYC...
You should have moved to San Francisco.
1/30/2008
PJ "Mrs. Cara Squishenstein" G. says:
Andy- the Taxi and Limousine Commission covers them too. They do cabs et al.
Andy- the Taxi and Limousine Commission covers them too. They do cabs et al.
1/30/2008
Scott A. says:
Master the Arts of arguing, swearing, attitude, fast walking, dodging people, dodging shit on the sidewalks, seeing black ice before you step on it (falling if you don't), stomaching smells that you never would have thought existed, aggressive driving, knowing a tranny from a woman (if you have either preference or care), making decisions on where to eat (just too many choices - don't forget to Yelp it), shopping, getting out of the city now and then, tipping, freaking humidity in the summer and exceptionally dry and cold in the winter along with slush, rain and who knows what wheatherwise. Despite this little list, NYC still rocks!
Master the Arts of arguing, swearing, attitude, fast walking, dodging people, dodging shit on the sidewalks, seeing black ice before you step on it (falling if you don't), stomaching smells that you never would have thought existed, aggressive driving, knowing a tranny from a woman (if you have either preference or care), making decisions on where to eat (just too many choices - don't forget to Yelp it), shopping, getting out of the city now and then, tipping, freaking humidity in the summer and exceptionally dry and cold in the winter along with slush, rain and who knows what wheatherwise. Despite this little list, NYC still rocks!
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Jennifer M. says:
That just because you walk everywhere doesn't mean you can eat everything you want. Uhm, I did, and let's just say I gained the new york 10.
That just because you walk everywhere doesn't mean you can eat everything you want. Uhm, I did, and let's just say I gained the new york 10.
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eric d. says:
1) It's not nearly as glamorous as it looks in movies.
2) Shopping on 5th avenue around christmas is the worst idea. ever.
3) After living in the city for over a year you will want kill every person you hear say, "the big apple"
4) Chinese food is your main dietary staple.
1) It's not nearly as glamorous as it looks in movies.
2) Shopping on 5th avenue around christmas is the worst idea. ever.
3) After living in the city for over a year you will want kill every person you hear say, "the big apple"
4) Chinese food is your main dietary staple.
1/30/2008
Megan C. says:
Eric I second the 5th Avenue comment. No matter how bad you think you want to see the tree lit if you even try to go anywhere near the Tree on tree lighting day you're surely going to spend hours wading through the millions of other people who thought it was going to be a good idea.
Eric I second the 5th Avenue comment. No matter how bad you think you want to see the tree lit if you even try to go anywhere near the Tree on tree lighting day you're surely going to spend hours wading through the millions of other people who thought it was going to be a good idea.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
John H says...
" I love the transplants. Most of my friends are now transplants."
Sad but I don't have one true transplant friend : (
All my best friends/boyfriends are Natives. We are cut from the same cloth I suppose. It's not like I haven't given non-natives a chance. Something just doesn't gel. I really wish I knew why. Perhaps it is the lack of non-indigenous neurosis?
Thoughts?
John H says...
" I love the transplants. Most of my friends are now transplants."
Sad but I don't have one true transplant friend : (
All my best friends/boyfriends are Natives. We are cut from the same cloth I suppose. It's not like I haven't given non-natives a chance. Something just doesn't gel. I really wish I knew why. Perhaps it is the lack of non-indigenous neurosis?
Thoughts?
1/30/2008
Fabian T. says:
Just when you think you've seen the hottest collection of women ever, there's tomorrow to look forward to.
You want to have what done to you? !!! No problem!
The evening starts when you leave your house - don't rush, we'll be up all night.
That funky smell -- Jersey!
You saw a g-string wearing cowboy out in the middle of winter? Big deal! I saw a black clown rocking out "Stairway to Heaven" on a Fender in the subway!
Just when you think you've seen the hottest collection of women ever, there's tomorrow to look forward to.
You want to have what done to you? !!! No problem!
The evening starts when you leave your house - don't rush, we'll be up all night.
That funky smell -- Jersey!
You saw a g-string wearing cowboy out in the middle of winter? Big deal! I saw a black clown rocking out "Stairway to Heaven" on a Fender in the subway!
1/30/2008
Josh "Team Fist Shakers: Get Off My Lawn!" R. says:
Musicians on the subways: sometimes, they are actually good and you may decide "hey, I'll take the next train" just to hear a little more. Ahh, the free music. Can't find that in the suburbs.
Musicians on the subways: sometimes, they are actually good and you may decide "hey, I'll take the next train" just to hear a little more. Ahh, the free music. Can't find that in the suburbs.
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jonathan h. says:
Tori K....
I know exactly what you're saying. The transplants just don't get the punchline because they weren't raised with the joke. There's was something special about being a city kid back in the day. Like having Fox's U-Bet in the cupboard, having to take the subway to 7th grade, or sneaking out to drink underage at a place that was actually pretty cool. Or singing your public school song about something named after a number - yeah, there really was a song for old P.S. 115.
I like the "new" NYC with all the newcomers, but I'll always have nostalgia for the bad/good old days, too.
Tori K....
I know exactly what you're saying. The transplants just don't get the punchline because they weren't raised with the joke. There's was something special about being a city kid back in the day. Like having Fox's U-Bet in the cupboard, having to take the subway to 7th grade, or sneaking out to drink underage at a place that was actually pretty cool. Or singing your public school song about something named after a number - yeah, there really was a song for old P.S. 115.
I like the "new" NYC with all the newcomers, but I'll always have nostalgia for the bad/good old days, too.
1/31/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
"Scott A. says:
Master the Arts of arguing, swearing, attitude, fast walking, dodging people,"
Haha. Tourist dodging is one of my favorite sports. It's great for reflexes and agility.
Johanthan,
Couldn't agree more. I remember my grade school song, sneaking out to the pool halls around Penn Station to drink beer and taking the subway to school. I always get nostalgic for that stuff. Not the drugs, pimps and shootings so much, but the good times for sho.
"Scott A. says:
Master the Arts of arguing, swearing, attitude, fast walking, dodging people,"
Haha. Tourist dodging is one of my favorite sports. It's great for reflexes and agility.
Johanthan,
Couldn't agree more. I remember my grade school song, sneaking out to the pool halls around Penn Station to drink beer and taking the subway to school. I always get nostalgic for that stuff. Not the drugs, pimps and shootings so much, but the good times for sho.
1/31/2008
Stephen C. says:
I had a friend who was born in Queens. He went to public school then private school through twelfth grade. He always referred to himself as a TRUE New Yorker. I argued with him saying "you are a native New Yorker"; it would drive him mad to hear me say it. The native New Yorkers think they have the franchise on what all of us have discovered about the secrets or better, the idiosyncrasies of the day to day survival in the "Big Apple". Sinatra was right to sing at the top of his voice "make it here, you can make it anywhere" (good shout out Megan). A true New Yorker gets it: express or local, empty subway car, that bench was some ones home for a while and good chances they smelled like piss, east side, west side, alphabet city, escalators up (just tell that person to keep moving this isn't their world it is ours), heavy metal doors to cool clubs, get use to the lines and traffic 24/7, street vendors do sell some good food, hey! central park, designer shopping bags (you know the ones people recycle to use carrying stuff to and from work of course they spent a good portion of their paycheck to get something in it), our bums and crazy people are the best at what they do (I still get a kick at seeing them have full conversations with themselves; other cities they lock them up, don't they?), buy a humidifier for the boogers (don't pick in public), wash your hands after everything you touch (you will get sick less), learn this lesson - NEW YORK CITY IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS, and of course, the next time you see an old person still hanging in there ask them why they still put up with all of it and they will say "I wouldn't live anywhere else"!
I had a friend who was born in Queens. He went to public school then private school through twelfth grade. He always referred to himself as a TRUE New Yorker. I argued with him saying "you are a native New Yorker"; it would drive him mad to hear me say it. The native New Yorkers think they have the franchise on what all of us have discovered about the secrets or better, the idiosyncrasies of the day to day survival in the "Big Apple". Sinatra was right to sing at the top of his voice "make it here, you can make it anywhere" (good shout out Megan). A true New Yorker gets it: express or local, empty subway car, that bench was some ones home for a while and good chances they smelled like piss, east side, west side, alphabet city, escalators up (just tell that person to keep moving this isn't their world it is ours), heavy metal doors to cool clubs, get use to the lines and traffic 24/7, street vendors do sell some good food, hey! central park, designer shopping bags (you know the ones people recycle to use carrying stuff to and from work of course they spent a good portion of their paycheck to get something in it), our bums and crazy people are the best at what they do (I still get a kick at seeing them have full conversations with themselves; other cities they lock them up, don't they?), buy a humidifier for the boogers (don't pick in public), wash your hands after everything you touch (you will get sick less), learn this lesson - NEW YORK CITY IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS, and of course, the next time you see an old person still hanging in there ask them why they still put up with all of it and they will say "I wouldn't live anywhere else"!
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Mindy Z. says:
I never liked the word "transplant" but then i realized..transplants are good things! Heart transplants, liver, eyes, etc
As for the whole native NY high horse bull, the city was made from immigrants and still is. Get off it already
I never liked the word "transplant" but then i realized..transplants are good things! Heart transplants, liver, eyes, etc
As for the whole native NY high horse bull, the city was made from immigrants and still is. Get off it already
1/31/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
if they feel nostalgic for f*cked up crime sprees and run down streets, but cheaper housing and cool mom and pop stores, there's always Baltimore
I'm just sayin'
if they feel nostalgic for f*cked up crime sprees and run down streets, but cheaper housing and cool mom and pop stores, there's always Baltimore
I'm just sayin'
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
It is not about being on some high horse.... I resent that. You will never completely "get us" that's all, and that's okie dokie okies from wiskokie. You don't need our approval and we don't need yours. Live and let live. You have the culture you brought here with you...we have ours. Thank you very much...y'all have a nice day now.
It is not about being on some high horse.... I resent that. You will never completely "get us" that's all, and that's okie dokie okies from wiskokie. You don't need our approval and we don't need yours. Live and let live. You have the culture you brought here with you...we have ours. Thank you very much...y'all have a nice day now.
1/31/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
"Tori "Lips Like Sugar" K. says:
It is not about being on some high horse.... I resent that. You will never completely "get us" that's all, and that's okie dokie okies from wiskokie. Thank you very much...y'all have a nice day now."
Well said, Tori.
"Tori "Lips Like Sugar" K. says:
It is not about being on some high horse.... I resent that. You will never completely "get us" that's all, and that's okie dokie okies from wiskokie. Thank you very much...y'all have a nice day now."
Well said, Tori.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Thank you Alex. Oh the ironyof it all-we natives are a minority in our own -now "white picket fence 2.5 kids" town. We are an endangered species. It's genocide... mass genocide I say. I recall when clubs and people were actually cool. The "new" New York ain't. You can live in almost any metropolitan city in the country and it wouldn't be that different. I would leave if I didn't have a stabilized apt which I am very thankful for. Once it reaches 2200 I am out.
Thank you Alex. Oh the ironyof it all-we natives are a minority in our own -now "white picket fence 2.5 kids" town. We are an endangered species. It's genocide... mass genocide I say. I recall when clubs and people were actually cool. The "new" New York ain't. You can live in almost any metropolitan city in the country and it wouldn't be that different. I would leave if I didn't have a stabilized apt which I am very thankful for. Once it reaches 2200 I am out.
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jonathan h. says:
Tori, Alex, et al.,
The fact that someone thinks that expressing a fondness for the way things used to be in your hometown just shows how transplants don't get it. And again, how can they? I really wouldn't fit in well in most other parts of the country.
High horse indeed. No one is looking down on anyone here.
Tori, I will agree that much of Manhattan has turned into a bad outdoors mall, but there is still a lot of the old soul left.
Tori, Alex, et al.,
The fact that someone thinks that expressing a fondness for the way things used to be in your hometown just shows how transplants don't get it. And again, how can they? I really wouldn't fit in well in most other parts of the country.
High horse indeed. No one is looking down on anyone here.
Tori, I will agree that much of Manhattan has turned into a bad outdoors mall, but there is still a lot of the old soul left.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Jonathan h says... " Tori, I will agree that much of Manhattan has turned into a bad outdoors mall, but there is still a lot of the old soul left."
Please tell me where the old soul is Jonathan...please, so we NY'ers could reunite. I read on curbed that the Bowery is going to be the new" Meat Packing"...Meat Packing!!! Meat packing is Hell-so NOT cool! I'd say the devil is buying this cities soul for 1,000+ a square foot.
Jonathan h says... " Tori, I will agree that much of Manhattan has turned into a bad outdoors mall, but there is still a lot of the old soul left."
Please tell me where the old soul is Jonathan...please, so we NY'ers could reunite. I read on curbed that the Bowery is going to be the new" Meat Packing"...Meat Packing!!! Meat packing is Hell-so NOT cool! I'd say the devil is buying this cities soul for 1,000+ a square foot.
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Victor "Light My Country Music Award On Fire" L. says:
I think my biggest problem with brazen assumptions about the makeup of anyone, whether native or not, is it's like a small form of nationalism. When it comes to certain things, it can be pride-inducing (usually sports related). When it comes to a hell of a lot of other things, it just spawns crap and truly unjust, dangerous mindset. You take a native out of it's nest, it's just the same. That kind of mindset provides at least the slight bit of empathy. It's a start. Bond between people who are from the same background is a part of life wherever you come from; New York is just a bit more amplified. Bond between people who aren't from the same background, and that's an ACCOMPLISHMENT. It's not always simple. That's the beauty.
Now, New York is different, which is where the exception lies. In this city, I feel like a lot of things, they don't happen for a reason. And that's just how life is, it's perfect like that, it's honest and doesn't have to be fueled by motivations, it's a pure shot of life, hyper-exaggerated because of the density. I agree with Tori in part; New York can be very unforgiving if you're not in tune, in sync. If you can't adapt, it might not be the best thing for you. But also the great thing about New York: there's a little something for everyone. Sometimes people just gotta try harder, mostly "transplants", but also natives as well.
Truthfully, my stance is very individualistic; I never want to be so cool that I'm part of a certain group or a certain type. I try to champion people in general. I never thought New York would influence me so much; but in a way, it hasn't beyond my comfort with the physical environment. I'm staying true to my upstate roots in how much my nature can be reflective; I'm sure if a native New Yorker were to be thrust into another place, they'd want to stay true, as true New Yorkers do. I've enjoyed how I've grown to learn about New York these past 6 years, especially starting off as a college freshman so scared and overwhelmed. Would I say I'm a New Yorker? No. I'm just not. I definitely know what Tori and Alex are talking about. I love that intangible New York-ness that they live and breathe. But I come close enough sometimes; and with that I'm content. Either way, I demand respect and an open mind.
But things I should have been told: nothing. Learning via embarrassment is just as much fun and is/was just as heartbreaking sometimes.
I think my biggest problem with brazen assumptions about the makeup of anyone, whether native or not, is it's like a small form of nationalism. When it comes to certain things, it can be pride-inducing (usually sports related). When it comes to a hell of a lot of other things, it just spawns crap and truly unjust, dangerous mindset. You take a native out of it's nest, it's just the same. That kind of mindset provides at least the slight bit of empathy. It's a start. Bond between people who are from the same background is a part of life wherever you come from; New York is just a bit more amplified. Bond between people who aren't from the same background, and that's an ACCOMPLISHMENT. It's not always simple. That's the beauty.
Now, New York is different, which is where the exception lies. In this city, I feel like a lot of things, they don't happen for a reason. And that's just how life is, it's perfect like that, it's honest and doesn't have to be fueled by motivations, it's a pure shot of life, hyper-exaggerated because of the density. I agree with Tori in part; New York can be very unforgiving if you're not in tune, in sync. If you can't adapt, it might not be the best thing for you. But also the great thing about New York: there's a little something for everyone. Sometimes people just gotta try harder, mostly "transplants", but also natives as well.
Truthfully, my stance is very individualistic; I never want to be so cool that I'm part of a certain group or a certain type. I try to champion people in general. I never thought New York would influence me so much; but in a way, it hasn't beyond my comfort with the physical environment. I'm staying true to my upstate roots in how much my nature can be reflective; I'm sure if a native New Yorker were to be thrust into another place, they'd want to stay true, as true New Yorkers do. I've enjoyed how I've grown to learn about New York these past 6 years, especially starting off as a college freshman so scared and overwhelmed. Would I say I'm a New Yorker? No. I'm just not. I definitely know what Tori and Alex are talking about. I love that intangible New York-ness that they live and breathe. But I come close enough sometimes; and with that I'm content. Either way, I demand respect and an open mind.
But things I should have been told: nothing. Learning via embarrassment is just as much fun and is/was just as heartbreaking sometimes.
1/31/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
I'll say it again, more clearly. New York is a world city, competing with the likes of London, Tokyo, Hong Kong and maybe Paris for talent and wealth. It's *supposed* to be absurdly expensive and have lots of gazillionaires running around. It is supposed to have a glistening core that it out of reach of most people. Think Rome, c. 100AD.
So it happens to have had a bad spell from the 1970s to around 1994, but we're past that. Hopefully for good. If you grew up during this era, and are still feeling nostalgic for the grit, the crime, as well as the comraderie and the low prices, there are tons of run down, over the hill, slightly dangerous densely populated, urban-feeling 200 year old cities in the Northeast to choose from. Where artists can thrive in cheap lofts, where people can be cool and alternative, etc. I mentioned Baltimore. Also Philadephia to a large degree. You can have that lifestyle there, and after a few years figure out how not to get mugged, how to make a life.
New York is different. Its peers are not Philly and Baltimore, they're London, Paris and Tokyo. I admit it stinks for people who grew up here. Imagine having your home, that you believe is the best place in the world (1) change so much you don't recognize it and (2) be too expensive for you to live there. That sucks. But it is what it is. New York has already changed so much over the centuries, continuously, that it was almost alwayus unrecognizable compared to whatever was there 50 or even 30 years earlier. Compared to most east coast cities, or even a lot of cities of the world, New York did not have a single heyday that defined its character. There was a dutch town that was erradicated by british one, that was built over by a colonial one, that was built over by the grid plan, that was tremendously changed by immigration of the late 19th century, that was built over by the skyscrapers of the 1930s and 40s, that was tremendously changed again in the 1950s and 60s, that went to shit in the 1970s, had a glistening superficial resurgance of pink marble and gordon gekko in the 1980s, that changed again, and again.
When New York ceases to change beyong recognition every 30 years, I'll know its time has past.
I'll say it again, more clearly. New York is a world city, competing with the likes of London, Tokyo, Hong Kong and maybe Paris for talent and wealth. It's *supposed* to be absurdly expensive and have lots of gazillionaires running around. It is supposed to have a glistening core that it out of reach of most people. Think Rome, c. 100AD.
So it happens to have had a bad spell from the 1970s to around 1994, but we're past that. Hopefully for good. If you grew up during this era, and are still feeling nostalgic for the grit, the crime, as well as the comraderie and the low prices, there are tons of run down, over the hill, slightly dangerous densely populated, urban-feeling 200 year old cities in the Northeast to choose from. Where artists can thrive in cheap lofts, where people can be cool and alternative, etc. I mentioned Baltimore. Also Philadephia to a large degree. You can have that lifestyle there, and after a few years figure out how not to get mugged, how to make a life.
New York is different. Its peers are not Philly and Baltimore, they're London, Paris and Tokyo. I admit it stinks for people who grew up here. Imagine having your home, that you believe is the best place in the world (1) change so much you don't recognize it and (2) be too expensive for you to live there. That sucks. But it is what it is. New York has already changed so much over the centuries, continuously, that it was almost alwayus unrecognizable compared to whatever was there 50 or even 30 years earlier. Compared to most east coast cities, or even a lot of cities of the world, New York did not have a single heyday that defined its character. There was a dutch town that was erradicated by british one, that was built over by a colonial one, that was built over by the grid plan, that was tremendously changed by immigration of the late 19th century, that was built over by the skyscrapers of the 1930s and 40s, that was tremendously changed again in the 1950s and 60s, that went to shit in the 1970s, had a glistening superficial resurgance of pink marble and gordon gekko in the 1980s, that changed again, and again.
When New York ceases to change beyong recognition every 30 years, I'll know its time has past.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
"Still feeling nostalgic for the grit, the crime."
I don't (and I am sure no native Ny'er) feels nostalgic for crime and grit-that's simply preposterous!
I personally don't believe NYC should host projects/ section 8 housing or undocumented workers. I do believe we need more middle income housing...not more lower and upper. I feel nostalgic for art, new ideas, cultural, gay, bi, trans gender diversity. I morn for a city pre Applebees, Olive Garden, stroller Nazis, day care centers, rat dogs stuffed in purses, and strip malls to name just a few.
"Still feeling nostalgic for the grit, the crime."
I don't (and I am sure no native Ny'er) feels nostalgic for crime and grit-that's simply preposterous!
I personally don't believe NYC should host projects/ section 8 housing or undocumented workers. I do believe we need more middle income housing...not more lower and upper. I feel nostalgic for art, new ideas, cultural, gay, bi, trans gender diversity. I morn for a city pre Applebees, Olive Garden, stroller Nazis, day care centers, rat dogs stuffed in purses, and strip malls to name just a few.
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Hicham Y. says:
if an ad in craigslist about a job who does not list a $$ is maybe a bad sales job.
and the same goes for an apartment or a shady roomate
if an ad in craigslist about a job who does not list a $$ is maybe a bad sales job.
and the same goes for an apartment or a shady roomate
1/31/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
CB,
We agree and disagree on a few things. Tori is right: no one in their right mind would wish for the grit and crime. Especially those of us who've been victim to it in the past. We get a little defensive and protective when "transplants" question our ties to the place because we know that if and when it (as you yourself say) becomes something totally unrecognizable and (god forbid) as bad as it was, we'll still be here when many of the new folks will run away to their homestates or to second tier cities like Philly and Chicago.
Also, New York has no peer. I've been to both London and Paris and while they are both unique and great places they just simply cannot hold a candle to New York. I'll stand by that statement to my dying day.
You're right. The city changes with the fluctuations of population. Old establishments close, people come and go. Its a port city. A vibrant, shape shifting city. It has a soul and if you're going to love it you have to love it like a woman or a man. You take the good with the bad and when she cheats on you you stick it out because she always comes home. Its hard for new cats to understand and see that because they are part of the new tides and not one of the steady fixtures sitting back and watching it happen.
Feel me?
CB,
We agree and disagree on a few things. Tori is right: no one in their right mind would wish for the grit and crime. Especially those of us who've been victim to it in the past. We get a little defensive and protective when "transplants" question our ties to the place because we know that if and when it (as you yourself say) becomes something totally unrecognizable and (god forbid) as bad as it was, we'll still be here when many of the new folks will run away to their homestates or to second tier cities like Philly and Chicago.
Also, New York has no peer. I've been to both London and Paris and while they are both unique and great places they just simply cannot hold a candle to New York. I'll stand by that statement to my dying day.
You're right. The city changes with the fluctuations of population. Old establishments close, people come and go. Its a port city. A vibrant, shape shifting city. It has a soul and if you're going to love it you have to love it like a woman or a man. You take the good with the bad and when she cheats on you you stick it out because she always comes home. Its hard for new cats to understand and see that because they are part of the new tides and not one of the steady fixtures sitting back and watching it happen.
Feel me?
1/31/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
Tori, what part of New York did you grow up in? I am just curious. I first visited in 1989, my freshman roommate. He grew up off Smith Street in Cobble Hill. Man it was f*cked up. Burned out cars, burned out buildings, obvious crack use, drug dealers. You couldn't walk there at night and even during the day you wanted clear sightlines so you'd be able to see trouble coming from far enough away to duck out. Now it's like millionaires row. I also had a friend in college that I visited that grew up in Park Slope really close to grand army plaza. In the 80s, in Park Slope, you didn't go below 7th avenue or past 3rd st (later, the border was 9th st). Beyond that you knew you'd get jumped if you weren't from there. Everywhere in Brooklyn has changed so much since the early 1990s. Anyway, I'm just curious where you hood was.
Maybe New York is due for a bit of an adjustment that will help make it more affordable to middle class people, as this property bubble that we're in bursts. But I still stick to my point, that as long as New York remains in contention as financial capital of the world, there are going to be issues that other cities don't have. By its nature, New York will pull in millions of people every decade from all over the place. Between the immense salaries that some people have, and the way NY draws ambitious people from all over the world, the pressures on "ordinary" middle class New Yorkers will remain immense. One of the great things about America is that people are mobile, and opportunities exist for people who move to other places. No-one has a right to be able to make it in New York, especially if they can make a perfectly good living and have a nice living standard somewhere else. Which they can.
Tori, what part of New York did you grow up in? I am just curious. I first visited in 1989, my freshman roommate. He grew up off Smith Street in Cobble Hill. Man it was f*cked up. Burned out cars, burned out buildings, obvious crack use, drug dealers. You couldn't walk there at night and even during the day you wanted clear sightlines so you'd be able to see trouble coming from far enough away to duck out. Now it's like millionaires row. I also had a friend in college that I visited that grew up in Park Slope really close to grand army plaza. In the 80s, in Park Slope, you didn't go below 7th avenue or past 3rd st (later, the border was 9th st). Beyond that you knew you'd get jumped if you weren't from there. Everywhere in Brooklyn has changed so much since the early 1990s. Anyway, I'm just curious where you hood was.
Maybe New York is due for a bit of an adjustment that will help make it more affordable to middle class people, as this property bubble that we're in bursts. But I still stick to my point, that as long as New York remains in contention as financial capital of the world, there are going to be issues that other cities don't have. By its nature, New York will pull in millions of people every decade from all over the place. Between the immense salaries that some people have, and the way NY draws ambitious people from all over the world, the pressures on "ordinary" middle class New Yorkers will remain immense. One of the great things about America is that people are mobile, and opportunities exist for people who move to other places. No-one has a right to be able to make it in New York, especially if they can make a perfectly good living and have a nice living standard somewhere else. Which they can.
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Carl "CB" M. says:
Alex believe it or not I feel you. I loved New York from the moment I set foot here, even though it felt like the "decline of western civilization" (apparently what I called it initially). Everything was crumbling, there was steam everywhere, menacing people coming out of the steam trying to sell you stuff, hustle you or take something from you, crazy homeless people were pushing shopping carts and talking to themselves, I thought was f*cking great. I would just don a black hoodie to cover my blond head and try to make my way through the place, especially its fringes. However, I have moved on from that position, and so has New York.
Alex believe it or not I feel you. I loved New York from the moment I set foot here, even though it felt like the "decline of western civilization" (apparently what I called it initially). Everything was crumbling, there was steam everywhere, menacing people coming out of the steam trying to sell you stuff, hustle you or take something from you, crazy homeless people were pushing shopping carts and talking to themselves, I thought was f*cking great. I would just don a black hoodie to cover my blond head and try to make my way through the place, especially its fringes. However, I have moved on from that position, and so has New York.
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Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
It most certainly has. And it speaks well of people who see all that and want to stay. Really, I have respect for people that can pick up everything and move to an alien environment. Shit, our grandparents and great-grandparents did it. And I think the point we're all trying to make is we're happy to have you but we see it a little differently. In a lot of ways the change is good. People still try to sell you shit. (For some reason people think I want to buy their homemade hip hop record without hearing a single bar of it.) But that's just the hustle of living in the greatest place in the world.
Its all one love, man.
It most certainly has. And it speaks well of people who see all that and want to stay. Really, I have respect for people that can pick up everything and move to an alien environment. Shit, our grandparents and great-grandparents did it. And I think the point we're all trying to make is we're happy to have you but we see it a little differently. In a lot of ways the change is good. People still try to sell you shit. (For some reason people think I want to buy their homemade hip hop record without hearing a single bar of it.) But that's just the hustle of living in the greatest place in the world.
Its all one love, man.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
@ CB In sheltered "Sat Night Fever" Bay Ridge...I couldn't wait to move to Manhattan. I recall the Park Slope you speak of. There are many parts of NYC that are far worse than Park Slope ever was. Ever take a stroll through East NY?
Why should someone have to be in the *one percent* to live in NYC? Are there really enough people in the one percent to fill all the "no frill " cribs- I highly doubt it. Could you imagine how dull this city would be if all the residents were multi millionaires?
@ CB In sheltered "Sat Night Fever" Bay Ridge...I couldn't wait to move to Manhattan. I recall the Park Slope you speak of. There are many parts of NYC that are far worse than Park Slope ever was. Ever take a stroll through East NY?
Why should someone have to be in the *one percent* to live in NYC? Are there really enough people in the one percent to fill all the "no frill " cribs- I highly doubt it. Could you imagine how dull this city would be if all the residents were multi millionaires?
1/31/2008
Alex "the Tao of Calrissian" i. says:
"Tori "Lips Like Sugar" K. says:
@ CB In sheltered "Sat Night Fever" Bay Ridge...I couldn't wait to move to Manhattan."
Further proof that Queens girls are the best girls. Rock on, Tori.
"Tori "Lips Like Sugar" K. says:
@ CB In sheltered "Sat Night Fever" Bay Ridge...I couldn't wait to move to Manhattan."
Further proof that Queens girls are the best girls. Rock on, Tori.
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Tori "L'enfer, c'est les autres" K. says:
Alex... I hope you think Brooklyn girls are the best girls too :)
The house used in "Sat Night Fever" is around the block from where I grew up. Great movie.
Alex... I hope you think Brooklyn girls are the best girls too :)
The house used in "Sat Night Fever" is around the block from where I grew up. Great movie.
2/4/2008
Austin V. says:
...Pre-war buildings were built before World War II and typically have hardwood floors, a fireplace (it may have been closed up), and high ceilings. Unless renovated they don't have central air (you're going to buy an AC and humidifier) and are walk ups (Under 6 floors) or renovated with an elevator (more than 6).
Saying you have a boyfriend/girlfriend (or even wearing a wedding ring) does not always diswade someone from trying to get in your pants.
Moving to NY is a great way to get rid of all your clutter and collector items (unless you like paying storage and rent)
...Pre-war buildings were built before World War II and typically have hardwood floors, a fireplace (it may have been closed up), and high ceilings. Unless renovated they don't have central air (you're going to buy an AC and humidifier) and are walk ups (Under 6 floors) or renovated with an elevator (more than 6).
Saying you have a boyfriend/girlfriend (or even wearing a wedding ring) does not always diswade someone from trying to get in your pants.
Moving to NY is a great way to get rid of all your clutter and collector items (unless you like paying storage and rent)
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Tara S. says:
I feel all of your comments and they actually brought tears to my eyes because I'm thinking of moving to CA and after reading all these thoughts, which mimic my own, I don't know if I can relocate now. I may be too homesick for NY. There's no other place like it!!
I feel all of your comments and they actually brought tears to my eyes because I'm thinking of moving to CA and after reading all these thoughts, which mimic my own, I don't know if I can relocate now. I may be too homesick for NY. There's no other place like it!!
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Tamara W. says:
I had to smile at many of the responses here. I am assuming that most of them refer to Manhattan only. Ah to be back in the city again.
I had to smile at many of the responses here. I am assuming that most of them refer to Manhattan only. Ah to be back in the city again.
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cherida "slim-slim" v. says:
1. well one thing ive noticed that going back to home amsterdam hollland for a 3 weeks ..when i came back it seemed i was a way for a whole damn year ..the city moves so fast forward ....you have to keep up!
2. Every new season i automatically seemed to replace new friends
3. if you see a cute little puppy on the street .. you better think twice picking them up......... (you'll get yelled at )
4. if you hit an A list club an out standing careless alter ego or behaviour really works (no tables nor freinds needed)
1. well one thing ive noticed that going back to home amsterdam hollland for a 3 weeks ..when i came back it seemed i was a way for a whole damn year ..the city moves so fast forward ....you have to keep up!
2. Every new season i automatically seemed to replace new friends
3. if you see a cute little puppy on the street .. you better think twice picking them up......... (you'll get yelled at )
4. if you hit an A list club an out standing careless alter ego or behaviour really works (no tables nor freinds needed)
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Susan F. says:
I lived in the suburbs of Virginia for 25 years, before finally escaping and landing in NYC five years ago....
Things that surprised me, once i moved here:
-Each neighborhood is like a very small town - where you wave to the guy that cuts your hair, stop and talk to acquaintances on the street, get the "flower guy" at the bodega to watch your dog for a second while you run in....
-You have to be SO excellent here at whatever you do....the sandwich guy is not just a minimum wage employee, slapping some bread together - NO...he is going to make you the BEST sandwich you've ever had! Seeing this everyday makes you want to be better at everything you do..
-I don't think i fully realized the beauty of food delivery until I moved here! (in VA, Dominoes and Pizza Hut were the only places that delivered!)
-Speaking of food....SO MANY choices....oddly enough, however, you end up getting tired of them all...
-The people here are really the kindest people I have ever known.....
-I never, in a million years, thought I would buy an apartment that cost this much! We use a different scale to judge cost/value/affordability in NYC.
-for me, its the best place on earth....I get nervous leaving town sometimes, for fear that I will get trapped in the south and be unable to make my way back!
I lived in the suburbs of Virginia for 25 years, before finally escaping and landing in NYC five years ago....
Things that surprised me, once i moved here:
-Each neighborhood is like a very small town - where you wave to the guy that cuts your hair, stop and talk to acquaintances on the street, get the "flower guy" at the bodega to watch your dog for a second while you run in....
-You have to be SO excellent here at whatever you do....the sandwich guy is not just a minimum wage employee, slapping some bread together - NO...he is going to make you the BEST sandwich you've ever had! Seeing this everyday makes you want to be better at everything you do..
-I don't think i fully realized the beauty of food delivery until I moved here! (in VA, Dominoes and Pizza Hut were the only places that delivered!)
-Speaking of food....SO MANY choices....oddly enough, however, you end up getting tired of them all...
-The people here are really the kindest people I have ever known.....
-I never, in a million years, thought I would buy an apartment that cost this much! We use a different scale to judge cost/value/affordability in NYC.
-for me, its the best place on earth....I get nervous leaving town sometimes, for fear that I will get trapped in the south and be unable to make my way back!
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Khalib "Fried Bologna Sammiches" B. says:
I am a native New Yorker, but I will chime in anyway.
- Your "nice" neighborhood is actually only five blocks from the "bad" one.
- It will snow every winter I don't care if it's 70 degrees today.
I am a native New Yorker, but I will chime in anyway.
- Your "nice" neighborhood is actually only five blocks from the "bad" one.
- It will snow every winter I don't care if it's 70 degrees today.
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Danny n. says:
That roaches and rats are pets or inside animals however you want to call them..
FYI: your roaches or rat might get offended if you call them pest.
That roaches and rats are pets or inside animals however you want to call them..
FYI: your roaches or rat might get offended if you call them pest.
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Shaun "Selling myself before I get put on the street" D. says:
Don't date women from the city...they are
"egotistical, vain, self absorbed, and introverted"
I'm not making this up. It's a string of nearly synonymous adjectives by someone I dated for 3 months down South (apparently, I live "Upstate"). In her case, she was right.
Don't date women from the city...they are
"egotistical, vain, self absorbed, and introverted"
I'm not making this up. It's a string of nearly synonymous adjectives by someone I dated for 3 months down South (apparently, I live "Upstate"). In her case, she was right.
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2/26/2008
Susan F. says:
OH...i forgot to mention the rats in my initial response!
I live in a nice building on the UWS that has a beautiful private garden next to it. At one point, it was absolutely phenomenal how many rats had taken up residence. DId we get freaked out?? No, we became amused!
We started referring to the surveillance television on the elevator as "Rat TV" whenever the camera focused on the garden. They scurried, they copulated, they feasted....all seemingly for our entertainment..
At one point, when things were at their worst, I came home and (no lie!) my super was outside in a pith helmet, with a pellet rifle, picking them off one-by-one...."big game hunting," he called it
The next week, this same determined super made them a delicious 2-foot sub.....bologna, peanut butter, and an entire jug of rat poison...mmm
DId this stop them?? NO! Absolutely NOTHING deterred them....not even me letting my jack russell terrier loose in the area for nearly two hours! (he was in RAT HEAVEN)
Finally - three months down the road, the thrill of all of this wore off.....we ceased to be amused. Drastic measures were called for, and we built a hideous cinder block mausoleum around our trash....
Took a few weeks, but we ultimately starved the little devils out...
AHHHH....luxury living.....
OH...i forgot to mention the rats in my initial response!
I live in a nice building on the UWS that has a beautiful private garden next to it. At one point, it was absolutely phenomenal how many rats had taken up residence. DId we get freaked out?? No, we became amused!
We started referring to the surveillance television on the elevator as "Rat TV" whenever the camera focused on the garden. They scurried, they copulated, they feasted....all seemingly for our entertainment..
At one point, when things were at their worst, I came home and (no lie!) my super was outside in a pith helmet, with a pellet rifle, picking them off one-by-one...."big game hunting," he called it
The next week, this same determined super made them a delicious 2-foot sub.....bologna, peanut butter, and an entire jug of rat poison...mmm
DId this stop them?? NO! Absolutely NOTHING deterred them....not even me letting my jack russell terrier loose in the area for nearly two hours! (he was in RAT HEAVEN)
Finally - three months down the road, the thrill of all of this wore off.....we ceased to be amused. Drastic measures were called for, and we built a hideous cinder block mausoleum around our trash....
Took a few weeks, but we ultimately starved the little devils out...
AHHHH....luxury living.....
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2/26/2008
Shaun "Selling myself before I get put on the street" D. says:
I meant to say that I lived "up North"
I'm coming off of 3 days of flu.
That's another thing! No one told me not to lick the handrails in the subway1
I meant to say that I lived "up North"
I'm coming off of 3 days of flu.
That's another thing! No one told me not to lick the handrails in the subway1
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2/26/2008
freddie "Fredrico Superstarr!!" d. says:
Thats not Cocoa Puffs in your cereal bowl.... since when do Cocoa Puffs crawl!?
Thats not Cocoa Puffs in your cereal bowl.... since when do Cocoa Puffs crawl!?
2/26/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
also, until 2 years ago no one had told me about flushing a toilet with my foot, and no one had told me until last summer about pressing elevator buttons with a knuckle instead of my fingertip. Mind-blowing, but oh so sanitary.
Though those are more life lessons instead of NYC ones. But really, aren't all NYC lessons life lessons?
also, until 2 years ago no one had told me about flushing a toilet with my foot, and no one had told me until last summer about pressing elevator buttons with a knuckle instead of my fingertip. Mind-blowing, but oh so sanitary.
Though those are more life lessons instead of NYC ones. But really, aren't all NYC lessons life lessons?
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2/26/2008
Ginnette "Baabie" L. says:
why so many people fart in new york city BUMS.........
P.S. Dont give money to the homeless they get free everything in the shelter!!!
why so many people fart in new york city BUMS.........
P.S. Dont give money to the homeless they get free everything in the shelter!!!
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2/27/2008
Kevin T. says:
As a new yorker, I have to say I am disgusted with your remarks about my home.
If you find it dirty, filthy, whatever, DON'T STAY HERE.... GO HOME
Also as for the hello, and politeness issues you all see to have, I do say hello and all that other shit.
As for a dangerous city, take a look a newark, or oakland... I never felt in danger anywhere in NYC my WHOLE life. I have in those other citys. I have also NEVER been harassed or robbed, but when I was in Stockholm I felt like I was going to get beat up by neo nazi skinheads.
NYC is a great place and if you idiots can't seem to understand that I reiterate.... GO BACK TO YOUR OWN HELLISH PLACE
As a new yorker, I have to say I am disgusted with your remarks about my home.
If you find it dirty, filthy, whatever, DON'T STAY HERE.... GO HOME
Also as for the hello, and politeness issues you all see to have, I do say hello and all that other shit.
As for a dangerous city, take a look a newark, or oakland... I never felt in danger anywhere in NYC my WHOLE life. I have in those other citys. I have also NEVER been harassed or robbed, but when I was in Stockholm I felt like I was going to get beat up by neo nazi skinheads.
NYC is a great place and if you idiots can't seem to understand that I reiterate.... GO BACK TO YOUR OWN HELLISH PLACE
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2/28/2008
Olivia "soon to be Mrs." G. says:
Ginnette L. what shelter have you stayed in where you felt safer or more comfortable than living on the street? Just curious.
I give money to the bums, just like I give away to charity. If I have it than I feel it's necessary to help out those less fortunate.
But here's what you should have been told before you moved to NYC; Don't expect to get a good chuck of money back on your return unless you've popped out a kid or ten.
Ginnette L. what shelter have you stayed in where you felt safer or more comfortable than living on the street? Just curious.
I give money to the bums, just like I give away to charity. If I have it than I feel it's necessary to help out those less fortunate.
But here's what you should have been told before you moved to NYC; Don't expect to get a good chuck of money back on your return unless you've popped out a kid or ten.
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2/29/2008
chris p. says:
-go early everywhere, including meetings, movies, shows, dinner, just about anywhere you have an appointment.
-Buy an ipod, you will listen to as much music as you did when you were in high school as you walk
-Get into jazz, nyc is the jazz capital of the world. appreciate it
-do things, join clubs, gyms, associations, organizations, trust me, there are like-minded people here
-maximize your career. a good job/experience in nyc will set you up well for the rest of your life, anywhere you go.
-go early everywhere, including meetings, movies, shows, dinner, just about anywhere you have an appointment.
-Buy an ipod, you will listen to as much music as you did when you were in high school as you walk
-Get into jazz, nyc is the jazz capital of the world. appreciate it
-do things, join clubs, gyms, associations, organizations, trust me, there are like-minded people here
-maximize your career. a good job/experience in nyc will set you up well for the rest of your life, anywhere you go.
3/2/2008
Meredith "tofu gourmet" P. says:
Downtown does not mean "closer to the heart of the city." It means DOWN as in at the bottom of the map on the subway. Similarly, uptown means UP as in toward the top of the map.
Downtown does not mean "closer to the heart of the city." It means DOWN as in at the bottom of the map on the subway. Similarly, uptown means UP as in toward the top of the map.
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3/2/2008
Grant H. says:
Learn how to slip and fall gracefully. Don't step on the worn down manhole covers.
Sledding in Central Park is creepy if you're an adult and alone.
Late at night, the L train goes in either direction on either track just to screw with you.
Keep umbrellas everywhere.
You're in a Manhattan studio apartment. Furniture besides a bed and a wardrobe is a luxury.
Paying someone else to do your laundry rules.
You can get _anything_ delivered.
Learn how to slip and fall gracefully. Don't step on the worn down manhole covers.
Sledding in Central Park is creepy if you're an adult and alone.
Late at night, the L train goes in either direction on either track just to screw with you.
Keep umbrellas everywhere.
You're in a Manhattan studio apartment. Furniture besides a bed and a wardrobe is a luxury.
Paying someone else to do your laundry rules.
You can get _anything_ delivered.
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3/2/2008
Ted R. says:
Despite what many people think, and have said here, New York is actually a very polite city.
http://www.rd.com/fami...
Despite what many people think, and have said here, New York is actually a very polite city.
http://www.rd.com/fami...
3/3/2008
Daniel S. says:
The best sex in your life will happen from making polite eye contact with somebody...
The best sex in your life will happen from making polite eye contact with somebody...
3/3/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
Most drug stores sell cheaper umbrellas down at the bottom of the rack. Like $5.99 compared with $14.99.
Most drug stores sell cheaper umbrellas down at the bottom of the rack. Like $5.99 compared with $14.99.
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3/3/2008
Purple P. says:
1) You will get rained on like crazy. Buy lots of those 3-dollar umbrellas, a raincoat...plus waterproof boots. Or get a Gustbuster!
2) Lincoln Town cars aren't supposed to solicit you from the street (they do anyways, though).
3) You will smack into someone on the street at least once a day. They won't give a sh*t about you.
4) Every once in a while, you will get lost on the subway connecting over to another train or you will miss a stop. Boohoo.
5) Know some "secret" public bathrooms: the Barnes & Nobles near Astor Place, various pizza joints, Whole Foods.
6) There are a lot more homeless people in Chicago.
7) You will see everyday people do magical, amazing stuff daily, like the guy making your sandwich at the deli twirl around and slice the bread behind his back nonchalantly like some 70's breakdancer with white gloves.
8) You will find yourself rapping or rhyming on the street when noone's around.
9) Tourist-dodging is a sport.
10) Traffic-Frogger is too.
11) Looking for parking isn't that bad. But alternate-side street parking is horrible.
12) Be a master of jaywalking! Look BOTH ways, up, down, behind you.
13) Street cart vendor food is pretty good-especially in Elmhurst, Queens.
14) You will get ripped off at a lot of eateries/restaurants if you aren't careful. I got chow mein once and it came with NO NOODLES-just a tin of meat and vegetables in sauce.
15) The rudeness thing is just a way of life here. There are so many people in the city, there's no time for bs, so unless you have something interesting to say or a good point to make, just pay the cashier, leave the tip and go. Also, people will cut you off in line all the time, so get used to it. Or, make a big, comical fuss about it--Seinfeld-style, so everyone around you will be entertained by your kvetching!
16) You will taste what a real slice of pizza or a real bagel is supposed to taste like!
17) Your sense of humor will take on a dark, sarcastic, gruff tone. Trudge, trudge, trudge...
18) You will start wearing mostly black or dark clothes so you won't stand out, but will still try to look stylish.
19) Crack is wack.
20) Buying fresh fish from a gourmet/specialty store (like Citarella) is actually fresher and sometimes cheaper than a lot of popular places--like Whole Foods.
21) Get one of those damn laundry carts to carry your groceries to/from your neighborhood grocer!
22) Boh Day Gah. Bodega.
23) Boh Ree Quah. Boriqua.
24) Eh Kwah Thohr. Ecuador.
24.5) Learn some salsa moves so that when some guy on his bicycle pedals by on the street with his boombox blasting some vintage Hector Lavoe, you'll know all the right steps and impress everyone!
25) People will laugh at you if you say "ruff" instead of "roof". Like, "look at that guy on the ruff there!" (snickers all around)
1) You will get rained on like crazy. Buy lots of those 3-dollar umbrellas, a raincoat...plus waterproof boots. Or get a Gustbuster!
2) Lincoln Town cars aren't supposed to solicit you from the street (they do anyways, though).
3) You will smack into someone on the street at least once a day. They won't give a sh*t about you.
4) Every once in a while, you will get lost on the subway connecting over to another train or you will miss a stop. Boohoo.
5) Know some "secret" public bathrooms: the Barnes & Nobles near Astor Place, various pizza joints, Whole Foods.
6) There are a lot more homeless people in Chicago.
7) You will see everyday people do magical, amazing stuff daily, like the guy making your sandwich at the deli twirl around and slice the bread behind his back nonchalantly like some 70's breakdancer with white gloves.
8) You will find yourself rapping or rhyming on the street when noone's around.
9) Tourist-dodging is a sport.
10) Traffic-Frogger is too.
11) Looking for parking isn't that bad. But alternate-side street parking is horrible.
12) Be a master of jaywalking! Look BOTH ways, up, down, behind you.
13) Street cart vendor food is pretty good-especially in Elmhurst, Queens.
14) You will get ripped off at a lot of eateries/restaurants if you aren't careful. I got chow mein once and it came with NO NOODLES-just a tin of meat and vegetables in sauce.
15) The rudeness thing is just a way of life here. There are so many people in the city, there's no time for bs, so unless you have something interesting to say or a good point to make, just pay the cashier, leave the tip and go. Also, people will cut you off in line all the time, so get used to it. Or, make a big, comical fuss about it--Seinfeld-style, so everyone around you will be entertained by your kvetching!
16) You will taste what a real slice of pizza or a real bagel is supposed to taste like!
17) Your sense of humor will take on a dark, sarcastic, gruff tone. Trudge, trudge, trudge...
18) You will start wearing mostly black or dark clothes so you won't stand out, but will still try to look stylish.
19) Crack is wack.
20) Buying fresh fish from a gourmet/specialty store (like Citarella) is actually fresher and sometimes cheaper than a lot of popular places--like Whole Foods.
21) Get one of those damn laundry carts to carry your groceries to/from your neighborhood grocer!
22) Boh Day Gah. Bodega.
23) Boh Ree Quah. Boriqua.
24) Eh Kwah Thohr. Ecuador.
24.5) Learn some salsa moves so that when some guy on his bicycle pedals by on the street with his boombox blasting some vintage Hector Lavoe, you'll know all the right steps and impress everyone!
25) People will laugh at you if you say "ruff" instead of "roof". Like, "look at that guy on the ruff there!" (snickers all around)
3/3/2008
William "The Social Whore" C. says:
you guys covered lots of stuff, but one thing not mentioned is that many of us native NYers (especially from NYC or Bklyn) dont drive. i dont have a license and i hate driving when i have to get drunk people home. give me a cab, a lift, or a metrocard ANY day.
i have tons of other crap to offer, but this will have to do. would take too long.
you guys covered lots of stuff, but one thing not mentioned is that many of us native NYers (especially from NYC or Bklyn) dont drive. i dont have a license and i hate driving when i have to get drunk people home. give me a cab, a lift, or a metrocard ANY day.
i have tons of other crap to offer, but this will have to do. would take too long.
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3/3/2008
cHaRlie "karmaguru" w. says:
Figuring out how this place works is half the fun. GO TO MAGNOLIA bakery if you are a cupcake fan.
If you are a jogger- try to go jogging in the morning. This is when air quality is at its best in urban areas. Don't put your lungs at risk when you are trying to do something good for your body.
At the end of every day you will have been exposed to some ridiculous number of advertisements. Keep $ smart.
Figuring out how this place works is half the fun. GO TO MAGNOLIA bakery if you are a cupcake fan.
If you are a jogger- try to go jogging in the morning. This is when air quality is at its best in urban areas. Don't put your lungs at risk when you are trying to do something good for your body.
At the end of every day you will have been exposed to some ridiculous number of advertisements. Keep $ smart.
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3/3/2008
Bea W. says:
Native New Yorker here, correcting a few statement made earlier in the post.
#1 - Look BOTH ways before you cross, even when crossing a one way street. Seems unnecessary, but I know a woman that was hit by a car backing up to snag a parking place.
#2 - Avoid walking on cellar doors as much as possible. Once again, my cousin's son fell into an open cellar when he was a teenage and messed up his leg.
#3 - I don't miss the crime, I miss the variety and the texture. It hurts when you go to stop by the cool little shop that sells [insert here] and in it's place you find [a bank, a Gap, a Dunkin Donuts, a Starbucks, a . . . ] It isn't the same. The contribution to the neighborhood isn't the same, and it sucks. Plain and simple. Olive Garden at Time Square sucks.
#4 - Walking between the subway cars is totally safe, and the new law is total b.s. 13 people have been killed in the past 20 years walking between the subway card. A much smaller percentage then the people that have been killed crossing 34th street. But we now have a law banning walking between - the whole thing sticks in my craw.
#5 - As the child of a transplant, and friend to many transplants. I am here to say that they can love, LOVE this city just as fiercely as a native.
#6 - When conversing with an outsider, a New Yorker is someone from New York State (Upstate & Down State included), unless there is some one from New York City present (5 boroughs) then the 'Upstate New Yorker' has to admit out loud, that they are from Upstate New York or Long Island. The same holds true when the interaction is interborough/intracity. Brooklyn will claim their borough, and Queens, the Bronx and so forth. When there is a resident from Manhattan present, then that trumps them all, and they (the Manhattanite) rules supreme. Sounds ridiculous, but order must be maintained.
Native New Yorker - Manhattan
Native New Yorker - Brooklyn, B & T
Native New Yorker - Outer Boroughs, B & T (except Brooklyn, Staten Island)
Native New Yorker - Staten Island, B & T
Transplant New Yorker - Manhattan
Transplant New Yorker - Brooklyn, B & T
Transplant New Yorker - Outer Boroughs, B & T (except Brooklyn, Staten Island)
Transplant New Yorker - Staten Island, B & T [Do people do this? Why???]
Long Island, B & T
Upstate New York, B & T plus a bit of highway
The Rest of 'dem folks.
I put this list together, because it is 1:36am and I am feeling punchy and a bit obnoxious, and because I really relish reading all the responses.
Ciao,
B.
Native New Yorker here, correcting a few statement made earlier in the post.
#1 - Look BOTH ways before you cross, even when crossing a one way street. Seems unnecessary, but I know a woman that was hit by a car backing up to snag a parking place.
#2 - Avoid walking on cellar doors as much as possible. Once again, my cousin's son fell into an open cellar when he was a teenage and messed up his leg.
#3 - I don't miss the crime, I miss the variety and the texture. It hurts when you go to stop by the cool little shop that sells [insert here] and in it's place you find [a bank, a Gap, a Dunkin Donuts, a Starbucks, a . . . ] It isn't the same. The contribution to the neighborhood isn't the same, and it sucks. Plain and simple. Olive Garden at Time Square sucks.
#4 - Walking between the subway cars is totally safe, and the new law is total b.s. 13 people have been killed in the past 20 years walking between the subway card. A much smaller percentage then the people that have been killed crossing 34th street. But we now have a law banning walking between - the whole thing sticks in my craw.
#5 - As the child of a transplant, and friend to many transplants. I am here to say that they can love, LOVE this city just as fiercely as a native.
#6 - When conversing with an outsider, a New Yorker is someone from New York State (Upstate & Down State included), unless there is some one from New York City present (5 boroughs) then the 'Upstate New Yorker' has to admit out loud, that they are from Upstate New York or Long Island. The same holds true when the interaction is interborough/intracity. Brooklyn will claim their borough, and Queens, the Bronx and so forth. When there is a resident from Manhattan present, then that trumps them all, and they (the Manhattanite) rules supreme. Sounds ridiculous, but order must be maintained.
Native New Yorker - Manhattan
Native New Yorker - Brooklyn, B & T
Native New Yorker - Outer Boroughs, B & T (except Brooklyn, Staten Island)
Native New Yorker - Staten Island, B & T
Transplant New Yorker - Manhattan
Transplant New Yorker - Brooklyn, B & T
Transplant New Yorker - Outer Boroughs, B & T (except Brooklyn, Staten Island)
Transplant New Yorker - Staten Island, B & T [Do people do this? Why???]
Long Island, B & T
Upstate New York, B & T plus a bit of highway
The Rest of 'dem folks.
I put this list together, because it is 1:36am and I am feeling punchy and a bit obnoxious, and because I really relish reading all the responses.
Ciao,
B.
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3/4/2008
Erika H. says:
I get rather annoyed when transplants who have been living in NYC for something like a month start acting like they know everything about it.
Otherwise, socializing in NYC is fun. You get to meet people from everywhere, as long as you know where to hang out. :)
I get rather annoyed when transplants who have been living in NYC for something like a month start acting like they know everything about it.
Otherwise, socializing in NYC is fun. You get to meet people from everywhere, as long as you know where to hang out. :)
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3/4/2008
Eric "Un-elite" I. says:
I may be repeating some things here. I tried to read it all but had to skip the short diatribes and tangents brought up by some of our more sensitive members.
#1 - The exhaust from a city bus leaves a nice little tingle if you are breathing it in.
#2 - Its good to know spanish here
#3 - Since I've moved here, my favorite christmas was the one that I spent in NYC rather than going back home. NYC is the best place to celebrate christmas, whether alone or with friends and family.
#4 - If you are waiting for a train late night or on weekends, you'll most likely get screwed.
#5 - It takes at least 20 mins to get anywhere in the city. Even if you live right around the corner from your destination, you are still at least 20 mins away.
#6 - You'll think NYC is the dirtiest place in the world until you visit India, Bangkok, Beijing.
#7 - Regardless of the negative attitudes and rudeness you face in the city everyday, its up to you to bring kindness and warmth into the city. Smile, be polite, pretend like you care. That shit is contagious.
#8 - Your friends and family, who will sit in coach for 24 hours on a flight to India, will not get on a train for 30 minutes to come visit you in Brooklyn.
#9 - Your friends and family back home will be in awe of your fabulous NY lifestyle, even though you are just sitting in your boxers at 3:30 in the morning, online.
#10 - You can get just about anything you want here and you can have it delivered. Including pot (or so I've heard).
I may be repeating some things here. I tried to read it all but had to skip the short diatribes and tangents brought up by some of our more sensitive members.
#1 - The exhaust from a city bus leaves a nice little tingle if you are breathing it in.
#2 - Its good to know spanish here
#3 - Since I've moved here, my favorite christmas was the one that I spent in NYC rather than going back home. NYC is the best place to celebrate christmas, whether alone or with friends and family.
#4 - If you are waiting for a train late night or on weekends, you'll most likely get screwed.
#5 - It takes at least 20 mins to get anywhere in the city. Even if you live right around the corner from your destination, you are still at least 20 mins away.
#6 - You'll think NYC is the dirtiest place in the world until you visit India, Bangkok, Beijing.
#7 - Regardless of the negative attitudes and rudeness you face in the city everyday, its up to you to bring kindness and warmth into the city. Smile, be polite, pretend like you care. That shit is contagious.
#8 - Your friends and family, who will sit in coach for 24 hours on a flight to India, will not get on a train for 30 minutes to come visit you in Brooklyn.
#9 - Your friends and family back home will be in awe of your fabulous NY lifestyle, even though you are just sitting in your boxers at 3:30 in the morning, online.
#10 - You can get just about anything you want here and you can have it delivered. Including pot (or so I've heard).
3/4/2008
matthew "rehab is for quitters" h. says:
don't confuse rapidity with rudeness
don't be that asshole taking hirself too seriously
don't confuse rapidity with rudeness
don't be that asshole taking hirself too seriously
3/4/2008
Kathleen "KRey" R. says:
That when the 4 train leaves the station, it sometimes sounds like "Somewhere" from "West Side Story"
That when the 4 train leaves the station, it sometimes sounds like "Somewhere" from "West Side Story"
3/4/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
#10 - You can get just about anything you want here and you can have it delivered. Including pot (or so I've heard).
About 10 years ago I dated a woman who used this service. She called it "white boy drug dealers." They had little laptops to keep track of their orders, and were clean cut and conservatively dressed. Not stoners. Strictly for business.
#10 - You can get just about anything you want here and you can have it delivered. Including pot (or so I've heard).
About 10 years ago I dated a woman who used this service. She called it "white boy drug dealers." They had little laptops to keep track of their orders, and were clean cut and conservatively dressed. Not stoners. Strictly for business.
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3/4/2008
Eric "Un-elite" I. says:
i've got a great business card for an "herbalist". These aren't the same people. But the white boy drug dealers sound hilarious.
i've got a great business card for an "herbalist". These aren't the same people. But the white boy drug dealers sound hilarious.
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3/5/2008
Brian H. says:
wall st. was actually named for the wall the dutch built to keep the british out - i'm sure we're all familiar w/ the stories of the island of manhattan being "bought" for 24 bucks or something, so raids would've been minimal at best.....::nbc music - the more you know::::
wall st. was actually named for the wall the dutch built to keep the british out - i'm sure we're all familiar w/ the stories of the island of manhattan being "bought" for 24 bucks or something, so raids would've been minimal at best.....::nbc music - the more you know::::
3/5/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
You can get the most amazing omelet on a roll and coffee from the guy on the southeast corner of 33rd and 9th Ave.
You can get the most amazing omelet on a roll and coffee from the guy on the southeast corner of 33rd and 9th Ave.
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3/5/2008
Kristina "Sailor Mouth" I. says:
i love "the city has a heartbeat"
and....no one ever told me, this city makes you strong...and appreciate your parents (if ya got them!)
i love "the city has a heartbeat"
and....no one ever told me, this city makes you strong...and appreciate your parents (if ya got them!)
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3/9/2008
Geoff O. says:
1. Do not be ashamed to look up. New York is home to some of the most amazing architecture in America (except maybe Chicago).
2. You are not too cool to do tourist-y things: "Honestly it's a shame if you call yourself a New Yorker and have never been to the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island or the Empire State Building". For real.
3. Agree on a price BEFORE you get to your destination in a gypsy cab. Also, don't be afraid to haggle with them.
4. Brooklyn is hard to navigate and negotiate, but its totally worth it. There are just as many things to do there (bars, museums, restaurants, etc.) as Manhattan and almost no tourists. (Brooklyn was its own city until 1898, and if it was still now it would be the fourth largest city in the country. Also, you have to love the Q train.)
5. "Artsy" lofts are usually not worth it. You get a big space for really cheap, but they're terrible to heat/cool, you usually have to build your own rooms, and Supers are almost non-existent. It takes about 15 minutes for my shower to heat up, but I can see all of Manhattan from my roof.
6. A lot of people were not raised to say "please", "thank you", or "excuse me", but treating those people with ignorance and hate will not teach them. If someone is standing right in front of the doors when you're getting off the train don't just bump into them. Loudly and politely say "excuse me". Even if they don't move you wont spend the rest of the day thinking about what an inconsiderate jerk they were.
7. Do not gripe about New York to native New Yorkers. Even if you know you're right (and you probably are) they will argue with you or tell you to move. If this happens, tell them about how glad you are that you got to see the Red Sox win the world series TWICE in your lifetime. Then ask them how the mets/yankees are doing. Be prepared to hear griping.
1. Do not be ashamed to look up. New York is home to some of the most amazing architecture in America (except maybe Chicago).
2. You are not too cool to do tourist-y things: "Honestly it's a shame if you call yourself a New Yorker and have never been to the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island or the Empire State Building". For real.
3. Agree on a price BEFORE you get to your destination in a gypsy cab. Also, don't be afraid to haggle with them.
4. Brooklyn is hard to navigate and negotiate, but its totally worth it. There are just as many things to do there (bars, museums, restaurants, etc.) as Manhattan and almost no tourists. (Brooklyn was its own city until 1898, and if it was still now it would be the fourth largest city in the country. Also, you have to love the Q train.)
5. "Artsy" lofts are usually not worth it. You get a big space for really cheap, but they're terrible to heat/cool, you usually have to build your own rooms, and Supers are almost non-existent. It takes about 15 minutes for my shower to heat up, but I can see all of Manhattan from my roof.
6. A lot of people were not raised to say "please", "thank you", or "excuse me", but treating those people with ignorance and hate will not teach them. If someone is standing right in front of the doors when you're getting off the train don't just bump into them. Loudly and politely say "excuse me". Even if they don't move you wont spend the rest of the day thinking about what an inconsiderate jerk they were.
7. Do not gripe about New York to native New Yorkers. Even if you know you're right (and you probably are) they will argue with you or tell you to move. If this happens, tell them about how glad you are that you got to see the Red Sox win the world series TWICE in your lifetime. Then ask them how the mets/yankees are doing. Be prepared to hear griping.
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3/9/2008
Ken C. says:
Am I the number 301 to reply? "A police permit to park anything at NYC..." Awesome....................... ................
Am I the number 301 to reply? "A police permit to park anything at NYC..." Awesome....................... ................
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3/13/2008
Veronica "Vee" E. says:
Mexicans will follow you home and always stare at you in the subway, ocassionally mutter something peverted under their breath.
Mexicans will follow you home and always stare at you in the subway, ocassionally mutter something peverted under their breath.
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3/13/2008
Anubis "The True Emperor Of The Universe" K. says:
you know on tv we always used to see everyone being so happy,getting along great with each other but when I came here it was really quite different than I could have ever possibly imagined, so many angry faces,rude people that look you straight in the eyes and don't even bother to say I'm sorry for pushing you or stepping on your shoes,for me it's really not a big deal with the pushing and shoes after all it's only a shoe but you know where is your manners and of course the constant discrimination that I personally witness on a daily basis for a city full of so many cultures you wouldn't really expect these kinds of things to happen here, where is the respect of other people's beliefs, it's sometimes quite difficult to communicate with people who seem to think that their english is so bloody perfect, and of course they try to act like they don't know what you're saying when you ask a simple question, oh and of course most of them are very narrow minded in their way of thinking etc........... two days ago I was having a conversation with three native NY'er about traveling around the world and even the US neither one of them had ever been outside of NY or even ever heard about Malta,Tunisia,Hungary, all they knew outside of the US was that Amsterdam was some place in Europe that they had really wanted to visit and they didn't even know where Iraq was situated :)
you know on tv we always used to see everyone being so happy,getting along great with each other but when I came here it was really quite different than I could have ever possibly imagined, so many angry faces,rude people that look you straight in the eyes and don't even bother to say I'm sorry for pushing you or stepping on your shoes,for me it's really not a big deal with the pushing and shoes after all it's only a shoe but you know where is your manners and of course the constant discrimination that I personally witness on a daily basis for a city full of so many cultures you wouldn't really expect these kinds of things to happen here, where is the respect of other people's beliefs, it's sometimes quite difficult to communicate with people who seem to think that their english is so bloody perfect, and of course they try to act like they don't know what you're saying when you ask a simple question, oh and of course most of them are very narrow minded in their way of thinking etc........... two days ago I was having a conversation with three native NY'er about traveling around the world and even the US neither one of them had ever been outside of NY or even ever heard about Malta,Tunisia,Hungary, all they knew outside of the US was that Amsterdam was some place in Europe that they had really wanted to visit and they didn't even know where Iraq was situated :)
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3/26/2008
David A. says:
New York City has a huge variety of attitudes, including all the ones you might think are only in "The Midwest" or other non-coastal parts of the country. There are great, polite people, there are mean people, there are respectful people, and there are incredibly bigoted people... and all combinations therein(just look at all the varied responses to this post). Try to remember that most people you will pass here and meet just want to live and go to their jobs and see their friends and get home to relax--no matter what race or religion. Watch out for teenagers in general.
Also, you can live in the outer boroughs and still say you live in New York City... I would recommend it in fact. There are tons of places that are bigger and nicer than places in Manhattan and are just a quick subway ride away from "the tiny island."
New York City has a huge variety of attitudes, including all the ones you might think are only in "The Midwest" or other non-coastal parts of the country. There are great, polite people, there are mean people, there are respectful people, and there are incredibly bigoted people... and all combinations therein(just look at all the varied responses to this post). Try to remember that most people you will pass here and meet just want to live and go to their jobs and see their friends and get home to relax--no matter what race or religion. Watch out for teenagers in general.
Also, you can live in the outer boroughs and still say you live in New York City... I would recommend it in fact. There are tons of places that are bigger and nicer than places in Manhattan and are just a quick subway ride away from "the tiny island."
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3/26/2008
Anubis "The True Emperor Of The Universe" K. says:
well thats great Dave but i've lived in every single borough and my experiences has always been the same even with the people that look similar to me in skin tone so i say that it's pretty much 80-90% of the city thats very narrow minded and they do indeed enjoy discriminating others, as i said before dont get me wrong it's a great city for making a living and meeting people but its also quite annoying to talk with most people who seem to think that their way is the right way and just because people from all over live here thats pretty much the world at bay for them, i do have to admit that after being many women here i think that i'm gonna stay away from sex for a while,or at least until i go back home, lets just say that now i understand why someone men end up turning gay in this town, after all its perfectly understandable when you're dealing with a very stuck up person who likes to think that its all about them and they're the best (whatever) hell even though its only for an hour a prostitute will treat you much better than a woman who wont date someone without a care( where the bloody hell is yours, oh thats right you don't have one yourself :)
well thats great Dave but i've lived in every single borough and my experiences has always been the same even with the people that look similar to me in skin tone so i say that it's pretty much 80-90% of the city thats very narrow minded and they do indeed enjoy discriminating others, as i said before dont get me wrong it's a great city for making a living and meeting people but its also quite annoying to talk with most people who seem to think that their way is the right way and just because people from all over live here thats pretty much the world at bay for them, i do have to admit that after being many women here i think that i'm gonna stay away from sex for a while,or at least until i go back home, lets just say that now i understand why someone men end up turning gay in this town, after all its perfectly understandable when you're dealing with a very stuck up person who likes to think that its all about them and they're the best (whatever) hell even though its only for an hour a prostitute will treat you much better than a woman who wont date someone without a care( where the bloody hell is yours, oh thats right you don't have one yourself :)
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3/26/2008
Sara "housewife without the husband" F. says:
who calls sf the west bay? i'm in oakland and i def don't call sf the west bay. west bay is really the peninsula.
who calls sf the west bay? i'm in oakland and i def don't call sf the west bay. west bay is really the peninsula.
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5/14/2008
CMW "Nani's Baby" W. says:
What would be considered rude elsewhere is perfectly acceptable and probably required behavior in NYC!
What would be considered rude elsewhere is perfectly acceptable and probably required behavior in NYC!
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5/14/2008
Matt "The Beardy Dude (Fresh Ink Edition)" L. says:
That Sex In The City is a distressingly accurate culutural document and that when people talk about Brooklyn being 'young' and 'bohemian' they mean in comparison to Manhattan. Also, maybe it's cause I'm from Philly, but I find New Yorkers invariably politer than I'd expect.
That Sex In The City is a distressingly accurate culutural document and that when people talk about Brooklyn being 'young' and 'bohemian' they mean in comparison to Manhattan. Also, maybe it's cause I'm from Philly, but I find New Yorkers invariably politer than I'd expect.
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5/14/2008
CMW "Nani's Baby" W. says:
Many restaurants are CASH ONLY, so ask first. Many shops will not accept checks, so bring your credit/debit card.
Many restaurants are CASH ONLY, so ask first. Many shops will not accept checks, so bring your credit/debit card.
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5/14/2008
Damaris "apathetic" P. says:
Get out of my way when walking in front of me. I can't stand slow people.
Get out of my way when walking in front of me. I can't stand slow people.
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5/14/2008
Susan F. says:
with regard to rude/perfectly acceptable behavior....there is some truth to NYC being different... In the south, we NEVER would ask someone how much they paid for their house, or what their rent is...... but, that is virtually the first thing people ask me when they visit my apt in the city!
with regard to rude/perfectly acceptable behavior....there is some truth to NYC being different... In the south, we NEVER would ask someone how much they paid for their house, or what their rent is...... but, that is virtually the first thing people ask me when they visit my apt in the city!
5/14/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
Chase ATMs will charge you $2-$3 for a withdrawal if you are not a customer. They are eeeeeeeeevil.
Chase ATMs will charge you $2-$3 for a withdrawal if you are not a customer. They are eeeeeeeeevil.
5/14/2008
Joe "shop smart, shop S-mart" O. says:
if a packed subway has a car that's empty - STAY AWAY. 99% of the time there's good reason it's empty. oh, and don't ever, ever sit in the seat that has the subway map behind it.
if a packed subway has a car that's empty - STAY AWAY. 99% of the time there's good reason it's empty. oh, and don't ever, ever sit in the seat that has the subway map behind it.
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5/14/2008
jonathan h. says:
Kate F. - I thought you'd be interested in the fact that there are banks that rebate your ATM fees if they don't have a branch in you area, up to a certain amount per month. One such is example is USAA, which also has free checking, plus they pay interest, plus they rebate any debit card fees.
Downside? They're in Texas. They're safe - they're the official bank of the US Armed Forces - but you need to bank by mail or direct deposit to take advantage.
I don't work for them, just a very, very pleased customer for 13 years now. They're also really nice to deal with. FYI.
Kate F. - I thought you'd be interested in the fact that there are banks that rebate your ATM fees if they don't have a branch in you area, up to a certain amount per month. One such is example is USAA, which also has free checking, plus they pay interest, plus they rebate any debit card fees.
Downside? They're in Texas. They're safe - they're the official bank of the US Armed Forces - but you need to bank by mail or direct deposit to take advantage.
I don't work for them, just a very, very pleased customer for 13 years now. They're also really nice to deal with. FYI.
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5/14/2008
Leah S. says:
A kitten heel can get caught in the grates anywhere but in Manhattan it will be in front of a side walk cafe and no one will notice.
You stand on lines not in them and "to stay or to go" means "for here or to go".
The subway path is subject to change at any time. Going home to Brooklyn on the weekends is nothing like during rush hour. Leave with an empty bladder.
There is such a thing as people traffic. It can make you late for work.
Parades and protesters are just more people in your way.
If a someone is really tan in the winter he or she is from Staten Island.
Roaches. Oh the roaches. And the rats in the subways are bigger than cats.
It can be hot when it rains. Humid heat is nothing like dry heat. Steam heat is loud. Oil furnaces still exist.
You can walk anywhere. Except when tourists just stop in the middle of the side walk without pulling over and you have to go around them.
Don't mess up the system. If you aren't sure how to order in the restaurant or get into the subway stand back, learn, and then proceed.
Cab rides can make you fear for your life.
There is so much trash everywhere it feels like you are in a bad neighborhood. That is because apartment buildings create so much trash it fills the block and stinks in the summertime and city garbage cans don't even have lids.
A kitten heel can get caught in the grates anywhere but in Manhattan it will be in front of a side walk cafe and no one will notice.
You stand on lines not in them and "to stay or to go" means "for here or to go".
The subway path is subject to change at any time. Going home to Brooklyn on the weekends is nothing like during rush hour. Leave with an empty bladder.
There is such a thing as people traffic. It can make you late for work.
Parades and protesters are just more people in your way.
If a someone is really tan in the winter he or she is from Staten Island.
Roaches. Oh the roaches. And the rats in the subways are bigger than cats.
It can be hot when it rains. Humid heat is nothing like dry heat. Steam heat is loud. Oil furnaces still exist.
You can walk anywhere. Except when tourists just stop in the middle of the side walk without pulling over and you have to go around them.
Don't mess up the system. If you aren't sure how to order in the restaurant or get into the subway stand back, learn, and then proceed.
Cab rides can make you fear for your life.
There is so much trash everywhere it feels like you are in a bad neighborhood. That is because apartment buildings create so much trash it fills the block and stinks in the summertime and city garbage cans don't even have lids.
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5/14/2008
Damaris "apathetic" P. says:
Leah that is a great list. I suggest that they post it on the subway billboards. Are you in advertising?
Leah that is a great list. I suggest that they post it on the subway billboards. Are you in advertising?
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5/14/2008
Caroline Z. says:
Once you enter the subway system, all chivalry and manners from men toward women just disappear, poof. I've never been run into, shoved, or cut in front of as much as I have here.
Oh, and avoid Times Square like the plague.
Once you enter the subway system, all chivalry and manners from men toward women just disappear, poof. I've never been run into, shoved, or cut in front of as much as I have here.
Oh, and avoid Times Square like the plague.
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5/14/2008
Caroline Z. says:
Once you enter the subway system, all chivalry and manners from men toward women just disappear, poof. I've never been run into, shoved, or cut in front of as much as I have here.
Oh, and avoid Times Square like the plague.
Once you enter the subway system, all chivalry and manners from men toward women just disappear, poof. I've never been run into, shoved, or cut in front of as much as I have here.
Oh, and avoid Times Square like the plague.
5/14/2008
Carl "CB" M. says:
As they said in Bonfire of the Vanities, to have a truly pleasant life in New York, you need to "insulate, insulate, insulate"!
As they said in Bonfire of the Vanities, to have a truly pleasant life in New York, you need to "insulate, insulate, insulate"!
5/14/2008
matthew "rehab is for quitters" h. says:
you want chivalry AND equal pay for equal work?
pick one, and let's move on
you want chivalry AND equal pay for equal work?
pick one, and let's move on
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5/14/2008
Charlie "Choo-Choo" I. says:
This Blog can go on for years. But ultimately what you should know is that New York is composed of so many influences from all over the world, from so many different types of people with different Beliefs and traditions. Therefore You SHOULD expect the unexpected all the time. However you SHOULD always, always, always embrace the city with open arms and an open mind. New York City can offer you the world if you only allow it!
Coming from a more suburban state can really be a shocker, its only after you come across the weirdest and most difficult times WHEN you will THEN discover what the city is all about and THAT is when you begin to appreciate the Luxuries of being a New Yorker! :)
Dont ever pass up the opportunity to live in the most impressionable City in the World!
This Blog can go on for years. But ultimately what you should know is that New York is composed of so many influences from all over the world, from so many different types of people with different Beliefs and traditions. Therefore You SHOULD expect the unexpected all the time. However you SHOULD always, always, always embrace the city with open arms and an open mind. New York City can offer you the world if you only allow it!
Coming from a more suburban state can really be a shocker, its only after you come across the weirdest and most difficult times WHEN you will THEN discover what the city is all about and THAT is when you begin to appreciate the Luxuries of being a New Yorker! :)
Dont ever pass up the opportunity to live in the most impressionable City in the World!
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5/14/2008
Gary M. says:
Don't own white suits, white furniture, white carpets (ever!) if your apt is on the floors 1-6.
Don't own white suits, white furniture, white carpets (ever!) if your apt is on the floors 1-6.
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5/15/2008
virtual c. says:
Hi, another Native New Yorker here with some practical advice:
Ladies, don't ever leave your purse hanging on the back of your chair anywhere, ever. Keep it on your lap or between your feet on the floor. Oh, you think you're in a 5 star restaurant so it's safe? NOT.
Similar advice goes for your wallet, don't ever put it down on a counter, ever. Keep it in your purse, your hand, or under your arm if you need your hands free while you have it out. If you put it down on the counter and walk away it will be gone in a New York minute and no one behind the counter or anywhere in the vicinity will know anything about it.
Hi, another Native New Yorker here with some practical advice:
Ladies, don't ever leave your purse hanging on the back of your chair anywhere, ever. Keep it on your lap or between your feet on the floor. Oh, you think you're in a 5 star restaurant so it's safe? NOT.
Similar advice goes for your wallet, don't ever put it down on a counter, ever. Keep it in your purse, your hand, or under your arm if you need your hands free while you have it out. If you put it down on the counter and walk away it will be gone in a New York minute and no one behind the counter or anywhere in the vicinity will know anything about it.
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5/15/2008
Estelle B. says:
Look in both ways before crossing a one way street! You see a lot of bikes that tend to drive the streets in the wrong directions.. I love bicycles though but this really annoys me!
Look in both ways before crossing a one way street! You see a lot of bikes that tend to drive the streets in the wrong directions.. I love bicycles though but this really annoys me!
5/15/2008
matthew "rehab is for quitters" h. says:
the phrase "new york minute" immediately identifies you as not a new yorker
the phrase "new york minute" immediately identifies you as not a new yorker
5/15/2008
Maria "The thrill is gone" M. says:
The streets is watchin.
Jay always lets me know things too late.
The streets is watchin.
Jay always lets me know things too late.
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5/15/2008
virtual c. says:
"matthew "not a knee-jerk liberal, a thoughtful liberal" h. says:
the phrase "new york minute" immediately identifies you as not a new yorker"
Silly boy, it was used for effect. And the advice was solid.
"matthew "not a knee-jerk liberal, a thoughtful liberal" h. says:
the phrase "new york minute" immediately identifies you as not a new yorker"
Silly boy, it was used for effect. And the advice was solid.
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5/26/2008
Nick J. says:
I came here from the North Bay Area to go to NYU, graduated, and am still here.
These are in order of importance:
- There is only one rat/roach-safe place for unrefrigerated food, and that is on top of your refrigerator.
- It is OK to initiate eye contact once per person if the other person is good-looking, but not if they are begging or hustling.
- It is OK not to acknowledge hustlers.
- It is better to look someone in the eye and tell them you won't give them money than to ignore them. Sometimes a "God bless you" will take the place of a dollar.
- Befriend some natives. You will learn a lot. And you'll have a ride when you need to move.
- More than half of the people out at 2 a.m. on a weekend are drunk, too. It is OK to mess with them.
- Be alert for puke on the ground. Always.
- Just about everyone under 25 who looks like they've got money is either faking or has a trust fund. Don't feel bad about being poor.
- You will move just about every year until you find an absurd housing deal. Natives own all the rent-controlled apartments. See "befriend some natives," above.
- If you saw it in Time Out New York or New York Mag, it will be sold out or too expensive. Do something else.
- The city is only lonely if you don't try to make friends.
- You must spend at least half of your summer evenings on rooftops.
- All clubs are a waste of money, even if there's no cover, unless you and your friends fill the place.
- You will have musician friends. It is important to go to their gigs.
- There is no shame in kickball on a sunny day.
- There is no shame in going places alone.
- There is no shame in subletting.
- There is a shit-ton of green space if you're willing to travel to get there. Bring a friend.
- Winter is cold. Protect your ears.
- Christmas comes twice a year: Dec. 25, and when all the NYU kids leave for the summer. Go dumpster diving. You're saving the environment.
- Everyone here is at least slightly nuts. That includes you. Deal with it.
I came here from the North Bay Area to go to NYU, graduated, and am still here.
These are in order of importance:
- There is only one rat/roach-safe place for unrefrigerated food, and that is on top of your refrigerator.
- It is OK to initiate eye contact once per person if the other person is good-looking, but not if they are begging or hustling.
- It is OK not to acknowledge hustlers.
- It is better to look someone in the eye and tell them you won't give them money than to ignore them. Sometimes a "God bless you" will take the place of a dollar.
- Befriend some natives. You will learn a lot. And you'll have a ride when you need to move.
- More than half of the people out at 2 a.m. on a weekend are drunk, too. It is OK to mess with them.
- Be alert for puke on the ground. Always.
- Just about everyone under 25 who looks like they've got money is either faking or has a trust fund. Don't feel bad about being poor.
- You will move just about every year until you find an absurd housing deal. Natives own all the rent-controlled apartments. See "befriend some natives," above.
- If you saw it in Time Out New York or New York Mag, it will be sold out or too expensive. Do something else.
- The city is only lonely if you don't try to make friends.
- You must spend at least half of your summer evenings on rooftops.
- All clubs are a waste of money, even if there's no cover, unless you and your friends fill the place.
- You will have musician friends. It is important to go to their gigs.
- There is no shame in kickball on a sunny day.
- There is no shame in going places alone.
- There is no shame in subletting.
- There is a shit-ton of green space if you're willing to travel to get there. Bring a friend.
- Winter is cold. Protect your ears.
- Christmas comes twice a year: Dec. 25, and when all the NYU kids leave for the summer. Go dumpster diving. You're saving the environment.
- Everyone here is at least slightly nuts. That includes you. Deal with it.
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Deborah K. says:
I agree with a lot of you.
Before you move to NYC -
1. Expose yourself to an army of viruses and germs because you DO NOT WANT to be dripping mucus all over your work.
2. Buy a wide arrange of clothing because you you DO NOT WANT to be the only one wearing a tee-shirt and shorts while it's suddenly pouring/hailing/snowing in the middle of APRIL.
3. Leave your car in a safe place that's far far far away from your apartment - parking is crazier than people say it is.
4. Bring a good attitude and don't let mean people get you down - not every New Yorker is as rushed and cold as people say.
5. STUDY - no really, you gotta learn where everything is
6. Develop a longer patience because there are tourists, crazy traffic, crammed train, and dirty floors - but that's almost every other city in the world.
7. Learn to appreciate diversity. No city in the world can compare to New York's diverse population. You need to accept everyone and everything to make life explosive as the people who come here.
8. Realize that something horrendous and reprehensible happens in New York everyday. You have to learn to accept everything and that you can't change everything. Don't wallow in your disappointment - it just gets everyone else down.
9. Make a lot of money - because NY rent is ridiculous.
10. Make a budget and spending schedule, because things here are expensive but important. You probably won't realize how much money you spend until you go into debt :(
11. Know that the city is loud, obtrusive, smelly, and sticky. But you should get over that.
12. Know that you'll get down the first couple of months because it's hard to adapt to such a place, but you get over its flaws and embrace its AMAZINGNESS.
I agree with a lot of you.
Before you move to NYC -
1. Expose yourself to an army of viruses and germs because you DO NOT WANT to be dripping mucus all over your work.
2. Buy a wide arrange of clothing because you you DO NOT WANT to be the only one wearing a tee-shirt and shorts while it's suddenly pouring/hailing/snowing in the middle of APRIL.
3. Leave your car in a safe place that's far far far away from your apartment - parking is crazier than people say it is.
4. Bring a good attitude and don't let mean people get you down - not every New Yorker is as rushed and cold as people say.
5. STUDY - no really, you gotta learn where everything is
6. Develop a longer patience because there are tourists, crazy traffic, crammed train, and dirty floors - but that's almost every other city in the world.
7. Learn to appreciate diversity. No city in the world can compare to New York's diverse population. You need to accept everyone and everything to make life explosive as the people who come here.
8. Realize that something horrendous and reprehensible happens in New York everyday. You have to learn to accept everything and that you can't change everything. Don't wallow in your disappointment - it just gets everyone else down.
9. Make a lot of money - because NY rent is ridiculous.
10. Make a budget and spending schedule, because things here are expensive but important. You probably won't realize how much money you spend until you go into debt :(
11. Know that the city is loud, obtrusive, smelly, and sticky. But you should get over that.
12. Know that you'll get down the first couple of months because it's hard to adapt to such a place, but you get over its flaws and embrace its AMAZINGNESS.
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7/29/2008
Mr. Fishbits "My reviews are even more better!" X. says:
+1 for the Jim Yelper. And for a San Francisco interloper on your york threads.
+1 for the Jim Yelper. And for a San Francisco interloper on your york threads.
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7/29/2008
Meg C. says:
Maybe this has been mentioned, but when you order a regular coffee, you are not going to get just black coffee, you will get coffee with milk and sugar already added.
also, the good delis can make great sandwiches in under a minute. Try getting anything in under a minute in Kansas.
There are buildings that still employ someone to run the elevator. Never seen that outside of NYC
you'll fall in love with a store, go there all the time, and then poof, one day it's gone. I hate when that happens, but usually a few weeks later there will be something else in it's place, and most of the time it's better than before.
Maybe this has been mentioned, but when you order a regular coffee, you are not going to get just black coffee, you will get coffee with milk and sugar already added.
also, the good delis can make great sandwiches in under a minute. Try getting anything in under a minute in Kansas.
There are buildings that still employ someone to run the elevator. Never seen that outside of NYC
you'll fall in love with a store, go there all the time, and then poof, one day it's gone. I hate when that happens, but usually a few weeks later there will be something else in it's place, and most of the time it's better than before.
7/29/2008
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
cabs do not like to go uptown, so get in and strap in before you say "132nd please!". If they try to say no, know that shit is illegal.
(hey thread! I missed you!)
cabs do not like to go uptown, so get in and strap in before you say "132nd please!". If they try to say no, know that shit is illegal.
(hey thread! I missed you!)
7/30/2008
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
Get used to friends from out of town wanting to come stay with you. Also get used to people who you barely know acting like they are your best friend all of a sudden because they want to come to the city!
Watch out for sudden sandstorms that may leave you with sand in the eye, stumbling around for a few seconds. Believe me, they happen.
Get used to friends from out of town wanting to come stay with you. Also get used to people who you barely know acting like they are your best friend all of a sudden because they want to come to the city!
Watch out for sudden sandstorms that may leave you with sand in the eye, stumbling around for a few seconds. Believe me, they happen.
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7/30/2008
eddie w. says:
this is funny,.. all cities need warning b4 you move,.. i lv nyc,...... what about LA??
-95% of people are in biz movies
-most conversations are about that
- you NEED to drive
-bad smog killing ur lungs
-what they say,.. might mean somthing totally different,.. "lets do lunch" means FU
-we had plans,.. "but i never said i'd show up"
-the town will let u think ur crazy
ahh... thank god 4 NY!!!!!!!!
this is funny,.. all cities need warning b4 you move,.. i lv nyc,...... what about LA??
-95% of people are in biz movies
-most conversations are about that
- you NEED to drive
-bad smog killing ur lungs
-what they say,.. might mean somthing totally different,.. "lets do lunch" means FU
-we had plans,.. "but i never said i'd show up"
-the town will let u think ur crazy
ahh... thank god 4 NY!!!!!!!!
7/30/2008
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
Eddie, this thread is about NYC... make one for LA if you like, but post it in their forums, not here.
Eddie, this thread is about NYC... make one for LA if you like, but post it in their forums, not here.
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7/30/2008
eddie w. says:
be prepared for nasty MTA workers, and cabs that may refuse to yake u to brooklyn,... atherwise ny rocks
be prepared for nasty MTA workers, and cabs that may refuse to yake u to brooklyn,... atherwise ny rocks
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7/31/2008
Mike S. says:
That there is a secret neighborhood that you can access through the park avenue overpass near grand central. in this land there are a thousands of thousands of available apartments that are huge 2000 sqft + and brand new. They rent for $200 a month, including all of your utilities.. all with a 2 minute walk to grand central.
But you can only access this neighborhood if you know the secret entrance. I can't believe so many newcomers don't know about it..
That there is a secret neighborhood that you can access through the park avenue overpass near grand central. in this land there are a thousands of thousands of available apartments that are huge 2000 sqft + and brand new. They rent for $200 a month, including all of your utilities.. all with a 2 minute walk to grand central.
But you can only access this neighborhood if you know the secret entrance. I can't believe so many newcomers don't know about it..
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7/31/2008
JP "My Work Blocked The Talk Threads" G. says:
1. You need to get used to walking very quickly.
2. Public Transportation, including buses, is now your best friend.
3. You'll hear "I'm on the 5th floor of a walk-up building more often than not.
4. You'll be offered 100 dirty street pennies in exchange for 1 dollar more often than not.
5. The more you live in NYC, the more you'll never go to Times Square and you'll come to despise it more and more....
and lastly....
6. It's cold...cold as f'ing balls (I'm from New Orleans, so add that for perspective on what cold means to me)
1. You need to get used to walking very quickly.
2. Public Transportation, including buses, is now your best friend.
3. You'll hear "I'm on the 5th floor of a walk-up building more often than not.
4. You'll be offered 100 dirty street pennies in exchange for 1 dollar more often than not.
5. The more you live in NYC, the more you'll never go to Times Square and you'll come to despise it more and more....
and lastly....
6. It's cold...cold as f'ing balls (I'm from New Orleans, so add that for perspective on what cold means to me)
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9/2/2008
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
Some more additions to this fantastic list:
- Your ass will be in the best shape of it's life from all the walking/stairs
- Some bars have two happy hours (one normal one, one late night)
- Pre-walking in the Subway will save you time
- Just because you're in a well-traveled, nice area doesn't mean you can let your guard down and walk without looking for dog poo!
- There are a few yoga studios around that do yoga by donation!
Some more additions to this fantastic list:
- Your ass will be in the best shape of it's life from all the walking/stairs
- Some bars have two happy hours (one normal one, one late night)
- Pre-walking in the Subway will save you time
- Just because you're in a well-traveled, nice area doesn't mean you can let your guard down and walk without looking for dog poo!
- There are a few yoga studios around that do yoga by donation!
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9/2/2008
Juan "I encourage you to please question my logic" C. says:
Forget the friendly smiles and good mornings, here it's more like: " Move bitch, get out the way"
Forget the friendly smiles and good mornings, here it's more like: " Move bitch, get out the way"
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9/2/2008
K O. says:
It's the people who move here who are the most impolite, aggressive, and most irritable. For some reason it triggers all their repressed anger and they think it's ok to let it all out. Where as back in 'fill in blank" it wasn't acceptable.
Native NYer's are actually very very nice : )
It's the people who move here who are the most impolite, aggressive, and most irritable. For some reason it triggers all their repressed anger and they think it's ok to let it all out. Where as back in 'fill in blank" it wasn't acceptable.
Native NYer's are actually very very nice : )
9/2/2008
matthew "rehab is for quitters" h. says:
don't be an asshole. way too many of them here already,a nd we wish they would all go back to jersey where they belong
don't be an asshole. way too many of them here already,a nd we wish they would all go back to jersey where they belong
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9/2/2008
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
If you walk in sandals, flip flops, or any shoes that expose your feet, they WILL get dirty! So baby wipes next to your front door are a necessity, ladies!
If you walk in sandals, flip flops, or any shoes that expose your feet, they WILL get dirty! So baby wipes next to your front door are a necessity, ladies!
9/2/2008
chris r. says:
matthew, there are easily just as many assholes in ny as well.
my contribution would be to put a large dowel in the window when you have it partway open while you sleep, so it can't be opened any further. especially if your window is the fire escape window. because it's after midnight. and something evil's lurkin in the dark. under the moonlight. you see a sight that almost stops your heart.
matthew, there are easily just as many assholes in ny as well.
my contribution would be to put a large dowel in the window when you have it partway open while you sleep, so it can't be opened any further. especially if your window is the fire escape window. because it's after midnight. and something evil's lurkin in the dark. under the moonlight. you see a sight that almost stops your heart.
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11/7/2008
Jeff "NYC Boomerang" K. says:
This thread's still here after almost a full year? Awesome!
Oh, and when getting off the subway, people WILL NOT let you off first. Excuse yourself and KEEP MOVING. Works like a charm every time.
This thread's still here after almost a full year? Awesome!
Oh, and when getting off the subway, people WILL NOT let you off first. Excuse yourself and KEEP MOVING. Works like a charm every time.
11/7/2008
Toy "I am Cornholio" L. says:
-That the horse azz smell from Columbus Circle goes both upwind and downwind year round.
-That I would have to develop eyes on the back and side of my head in order to detect an open seat on the subway.
-That I wouldnt have money for anything else except bills and food.
-That the horse azz smell from Columbus Circle goes both upwind and downwind year round.
-That I would have to develop eyes on the back and side of my head in order to detect an open seat on the subway.
-That I wouldnt have money for anything else except bills and food.
11/7/2008
Toy "I am Cornholio" L. says:
-Also that New Yorkers complain when tourists don't know subway etiquette, and yet, they dont either.
-Also that New Yorkers complain when tourists don't know subway etiquette, and yet, they dont either.
11/7/2008
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
I have some new things to add:
- It's illegal for a cabbie in NYC to say he can't take you to Brooklyn. If someone tries to pull this BS on you, call them out on it.
- You will see gorgeous people every day that will make you either: A) insecure about yourself, B) jealous, or C) want to leave your boyfriend/girlfriend.
I have some new things to add:
- It's illegal for a cabbie in NYC to say he can't take you to Brooklyn. If someone tries to pull this BS on you, call them out on it.
- You will see gorgeous people every day that will make you either: A) insecure about yourself, B) jealous, or C) want to leave your boyfriend/girlfriend.
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11/7/2008
Papa "nerd burglar" B. says:
here's a tip, just in case...
don't move here from your liberal arts ivy league college, decide to not show up for your thankless liberal job, and then get the genious idea to dumpster dive for food where my dog pisses.
you might get embarassed on national tv and try and kill yourself.
here's a tip, just in case...
don't move here from your liberal arts ivy league college, decide to not show up for your thankless liberal job, and then get the genious idea to dumpster dive for food where my dog pisses.
you might get embarassed on national tv and try and kill yourself.
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11/7/2008
Jill M. says:
aimee you're right. when a cabbie pulls over and says where are you going, i say 'uptown' then in the cab i say oh sorry, i mean greenpoint.
aimee you're right. when a cabbie pulls over and says where are you going, i say 'uptown' then in the cab i say oh sorry, i mean greenpoint.
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11/7/2008
Joseph "And they ask me why I drink?!" D. says:
-When buying something from a cart or a deli ask the price before handing them the money or having them make whatever you want. It only took me a couple times being ripped off to figure this one out.
-The grocery stores suck and if you see a good deal anywhere you better jump.
-It doesn't hurt to have a lot of money but there's plenty of things to do that require little to no money.
-You will see the most beautiful woman you've ever seen every day.
-Getting lost is the best way to learn the feel of the city(of course not in the wee hours or in shady areas).
-In thy most dire hour of need, a restroom shall appeareth unto you.
-Keep moving. Both on the streets and in all aspects of life. Keep pushing.
-When buying something from a cart or a deli ask the price before handing them the money or having them make whatever you want. It only took me a couple times being ripped off to figure this one out.
-The grocery stores suck and if you see a good deal anywhere you better jump.
-It doesn't hurt to have a lot of money but there's plenty of things to do that require little to no money.
-You will see the most beautiful woman you've ever seen every day.
-Getting lost is the best way to learn the feel of the city(of course not in the wee hours or in shady areas).
-In thy most dire hour of need, a restroom shall appeareth unto you.
-Keep moving. Both on the streets and in all aspects of life. Keep pushing.
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1/5/2009
veronica "Veron" v. says:
I'm thinking of going to New York when I turn 17,anyone wanna give me some advice?
I'm thinking of going to New York when I turn 17,anyone wanna give me some advice?
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1/5/2009
jonathan h. says:
To Ms. Veron:
Don't trust anyone that hasn't really, really earned it. Get everything in writing. Nothing too good to be true is. Make sure that you have a reliable way to make $$$. And not having a backup plan is the same as having no plan at all.
Probably good advice for anywhere, but especially here. NYC is a tough place, and young folks can get in over their head really, really fast.
Good luck!
To Ms. Veron:
Don't trust anyone that hasn't really, really earned it. Get everything in writing. Nothing too good to be true is. Make sure that you have a reliable way to make $$$. And not having a backup plan is the same as having no plan at all.
Probably good advice for anywhere, but especially here. NYC is a tough place, and young folks can get in over their head really, really fast.
Good luck!
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1/5/2009
Laurie S. says:
Liquor stores can only be open noon until 9 on Sundays. Learned that the hard way last night.
And you have to go to the liquor store to get it. No picking it up at the local grocery store. But, most will deliver for free, if you are too lazy/drunk to venture out.
Liquor stores can only be open noon until 9 on Sundays. Learned that the hard way last night.
And you have to go to the liquor store to get it. No picking it up at the local grocery store. But, most will deliver for free, if you are too lazy/drunk to venture out.
1/5/2009
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
I haven't fallen for this one, but just a warning to others who are not so careful...
Don't take furniture off the street unless it's wood or metal or some other hard surface and you sanitize it like crazy before putting it in your home. Even if that nice couch does retail for $1000+ in the stores, there's a reason it's on the street! And you DON'T want bedbugs.
I haven't fallen for this one, but just a warning to others who are not so careful...
Don't take furniture off the street unless it's wood or metal or some other hard surface and you sanitize it like crazy before putting it in your home. Even if that nice couch does retail for $1000+ in the stores, there's a reason it's on the street! And you DON'T want bedbugs.
1/5/2009
Kevin "diet mountain dew addict" K. says:
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
Don't take furniture off the street unless it's wood or metal or some other hard surface and you sanitize it like crazy before putting it in your home.
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Nonsense. You put a little Fabreeze on it, scrub it out a little bit, and it will look great in your apartment.
http://www.youtube.com...
Aimee "let them eat cake!" A. says:
Don't take furniture off the street unless it's wood or metal or some other hard surface and you sanitize it like crazy before putting it in your home.
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Nonsense. You put a little Fabreeze on it, scrub it out a little bit, and it will look great in your apartment.
http://www.youtube.com...
1/6/2009
Cara "Coo [quacks under pressure]" A. says:
That it would be so hard to even think about leaving...
That it would be so hard to even think about leaving...
1/6/2009
Kristin S. says:
That there is no way in hell you can get a 1br apartment in the West Village for $1250/month.
That there is no way in hell you can get a 1br apartment in the West Village for $1250/month.
1/6/2009
Ben C. says:
that "street sweeping" is just a fancy way to leave a pile of trash at my front door. if only there were street vacuums...
that "street sweeping" is just a fancy way to leave a pile of trash at my front door. if only there were street vacuums...
1/6/2009
Ben C. says:
and to Veronica:
If possible live with roommates that you know and trust. It's cheaper, more fun, and safer.
Also, look up everything on Yelp before you do it. It's on there, even if you wouldn't expect it to be.
and to Veronica:
If possible live with roommates that you know and trust. It's cheaper, more fun, and safer.
Also, look up everything on Yelp before you do it. It's on there, even if you wouldn't expect it to be.
1/6/2009
Amber "Madam Elusive" B. says:
Once you come here, you can never, ever leave- for the sheer fact that everywhere else sucks in comparison.
And here in NYC you can get amazing Chinese food 24 hours a day. That alone is worth staying for.
Once you come here, you can never, ever leave- for the sheer fact that everywhere else sucks in comparison.
And here in NYC you can get amazing Chinese food 24 hours a day. That alone is worth staying for.
1/6/2009
David "the Oracle" P. says:
A moment ago Amber "heck yes I'm a Sox fan" B. says:
Once you come here, you can never, ever leave- for the sheer fact that everywhere else sucks in comparison.
And here in NYC you can get amazing Chinese food 24 hours a day. That alone is worth staying for.
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There are a few cities that are probably equally as exciting, but for the most part, it's true. My friend moved to Tuscon, Arizona and is having a lot of trouble adjusting. There's maybe 2 good restaurants in the whole city and everything closes at 10:00 p.m.
A moment ago Amber "heck yes I'm a Sox fan" B. says:
Once you come here, you can never, ever leave- for the sheer fact that everywhere else sucks in comparison.
And here in NYC you can get amazing Chinese food 24 hours a day. That alone is worth staying for.
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There are a few cities that are probably equally as exciting, but for the most part, it's true. My friend moved to Tuscon, Arizona and is having a lot of trouble adjusting. There's maybe 2 good restaurants in the whole city and everything closes at 10:00 p.m.
1/6/2009
Briana "honey badger kills her landlord" M. says:
that almost everyone in new york has just moved to new york
that almost everyone in new york has just moved to new york
1/6/2009
matthew "rehab is for quitters" h. says:
that it isnt as cool as before giulliani gutted it
that it isnt as cool as before giulliani gutted it
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1/11/2009
veronica "Veron" v. says:
Thanks for the info :]
But do you guys or gals know what I can visit when I get there?
and how much would a hotel be??
Thanks for the info :]
But do you guys or gals know what I can visit when I get there?
and how much would a hotel be??
1/11/2009
Oriana "Me fail English?! That's unpossible!" J. says:
For hotels - use http://sidestep.com or stay with family/friends.
As for what to visit - Try Hunts Point in the BX for the hookers.
For hotels - use http://sidestep.com or stay with family/friends.
As for what to visit - Try Hunts Point in the BX for the hookers.
1/11/2009
Kate "bendy straws make drinks great" F. says:
I wonder if HBO runs a Hookers at the Point bus tour too? Probably no stop at Magnolia for cupcakes though...
I wonder if HBO runs a Hookers at the Point bus tour too? Probably no stop at Magnolia for cupcakes though...
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