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03/05/2008
Shamie "Go ahead and make mine Spicy" T. says:
I have gone through two interviews with a company and I really really want to work for them but they wont give me a salary range. I told them I am open and flexible..but they kept drilling me for what I want to make. I have a number but I don't want to say it first. Especially because I'm new to the area and the cost of living is so much higher. Help!
I have gone through two interviews with a company and I really really want to work for them but they wont give me a salary range. I told them I am open and flexible..but they kept drilling me for what I want to make. I have a number but I don't want to say it first. Especially because I'm new to the area and the cost of living is so much higher. Help!
03/05/2008
Michael C. says:
Hmm... I think you need to provide details...
What kind of position is this for?
How many years' experience do you have?
Do you have any significant achievements in your career thus far?
Is this a start-up company?
If yes, was it recently funded? How much funding was received?
Will you be receiving any stocks or options? How many shares, and what is the vesting schedule? What's the strike price? Do you have confidence that the company will be able to exceed that strike price when your shares vest?
I'm sure there are other questions, but those would be the first few to go thru my head...
Hmm... I think you need to provide details...
What kind of position is this for?
How many years' experience do you have?
Do you have any significant achievements in your career thus far?
Is this a start-up company?
If yes, was it recently funded? How much funding was received?
Will you be receiving any stocks or options? How many shares, and what is the vesting schedule? What's the strike price? Do you have confidence that the company will be able to exceed that strike price when your shares vest?
I'm sure there are other questions, but those would be the first few to go thru my head...
03/05/2008
Shamie "Go ahead and make mine Spicy" T. says:
Retail Manager. I am overqualified but really want to work there. I think that might be why they want me to give a # first?
Retail Manager. I am overqualified but really want to work there. I think that might be why they want me to give a # first?
03/05/2008
Donna P. says:
As someone coming from the HR side of things, all I can really say is the reasoning is likely that they want to make sure the job will be a good fit for you, which is why they won't give you a number first (as annoying as that is). They are looking for your minimum...so give them your actual minimum, but state that you're still negotiable and really want the job. Just research the going rate for your title and experience.
Trust me, you'll only annoy your potential employer if you won't answer one of their questions and they'll hire someone else who isn't as stubborn.
As someone coming from the HR side of things, all I can really say is the reasoning is likely that they want to make sure the job will be a good fit for you, which is why they won't give you a number first (as annoying as that is). They are looking for your minimum...so give them your actual minimum, but state that you're still negotiable and really want the job. Just research the going rate for your title and experience.
Trust me, you'll only annoy your potential employer if you won't answer one of their questions and they'll hire someone else who isn't as stubborn.
03/05/2008
Walter P. says:
I'm very much upfront with salary expectations. Anything below $100K, i'm not interviewing.
I'm very much upfront with salary expectations. Anything below $100K, i'm not interviewing.
03/05/2008
Donna P. says:
hahaha walter, you just volunteered to buy all the drinks at the next UYE! lol
hahaha walter, you just volunteered to buy all the drinks at the next UYE! lol
03/05/2008
Shamie "Go ahead and make mine Spicy" T. says:
Donna- I really appreciate this advice. The problem is that I am not trying to be stubborn, It's more that I am new to the area and I don't have a minimum yet because I don't know what the average rate of pay/cost of living is here in the bay area (except that it is a lot higher than what I am used too) So I feel like I am in a serious predicament.. I really want to work at the company and now I think I might of upset them.. yikes
Donna- I really appreciate this advice. The problem is that I am not trying to be stubborn, It's more that I am new to the area and I don't have a minimum yet because I don't know what the average rate of pay/cost of living is here in the bay area (except that it is a lot higher than what I am used too) So I feel like I am in a serious predicament.. I really want to work at the company and now I think I might of upset them.. yikes
03/05/2008
Mary "Robotron Hero" M. says:
J -
It's really important that you come up with your own acceptable $ range. Otherwise you could end up accepting an offer that is lower than you can live with. So start thinking about numbers. Imagine if they said $100K per year. Is that too low? If yes then think about a higher number until you figure out what is the absolute minimum you can deal with. If $100K per year is not too low then keep thinking about lower numbers until you find your minimum.
J -
It's really important that you come up with your own acceptable $ range. Otherwise you could end up accepting an offer that is lower than you can live with. So start thinking about numbers. Imagine if they said $100K per year. Is that too low? If yes then think about a higher number until you figure out what is the absolute minimum you can deal with. If $100K per year is not too low then keep thinking about lower numbers until you find your minimum.
03/05/2008
Donna P. says:
hey J, that all makes sense. Just Google whatever your job title is and "salary"...a few sites should come up that will calculate this for you (depending on the city/region/state/etc). You have to do a little digging, but that should help you. Good luck!
hey J, that all makes sense. Just Google whatever your job title is and "salary"...a few sites should come up that will calculate this for you (depending on the city/region/state/etc). You have to do a little digging, but that should help you. Good luck!
03/05/2008
Mary "Robotron Hero" M. says:
Also I should mention that the "name your price" thing is an old HR tactic to get someone for less $ because candidates will often lowball just to get the job. It's really tough to counteroffer when the starting price was your own.
But sometimes, for new positions anyway or for positions that are hard to quantify, a company just doesn't know what the market rate might be. In those cases I couldn't tell you a strategy. If you go too low you might be disappointed. If you go too high they'll think you're an ass.
Also I should mention that the "name your price" thing is an old HR tactic to get someone for less $ because candidates will often lowball just to get the job. It's really tough to counteroffer when the starting price was your own.
But sometimes, for new positions anyway or for positions that are hard to quantify, a company just doesn't know what the market rate might be. In those cases I couldn't tell you a strategy. If you go too low you might be disappointed. If you go too high they'll think you're an ass.


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