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Mama Java's Coffee House
Category: Food Coffee & Tea Coffee & Tea [Edit]
3619 E Indian School RdPhoenix, AZ 85018
(602) 840-5282
- Hours:
Mon-Sun 6 am - 6 pm
- Accepts Credit Cards:
- Yes
- Price Range:
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$
- Parking:
- Private Lot
- Outdoor Seating:
- Yes
- Wi-Fi:
- Free
- Wheelchair Accessible:
- Yes
74 reviews for Mama Java's Coffee House
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74 reviews in English
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Review from Natalie C.
Phoenix, AZ
I need a 3 1/2 star choice. Four starts for the coffee, three stars for the atmosphere.
Things I like: Their coffee: That's important when going to a coffee house. Accessibility: Lots of parking available. Local Support: They had multiply local artist work there to buy including their baked goods.
Things I would work on: Ambiance: A real bummer of a place. I just wanted to get my coffee and get the heck out. It was an environment I wanted to sit and enjoy. When you think coffee house, you think a place to meet friends, read, relax. Not here. It was too quiet, sterile, and the staff need a kick of caffeine themselves and maybe some knowledge on their goods their selling.
So I write this review to let folks know to stop by and definitely grab a cup a joe to go and I also write this to let Mama Java's staff know they should take a lesson from Hava Java up the street when it comes to customer service. You will never find the coffee spot empty. -
Review from Tom D.
My gal and I decided to give Mama Java's a try and I realize why I love Hava Java so much.
Mama Java does have good coffee! If you want a good cup of Joe this could be your place. I guess I have been spoiled by HJ's service.
Mama Java's seems to have a more sterile and less friendly feel to it. It could have just been the time we went, but I had no desire to stay and drink our coffee. The place wasn't as welcoming as our usual hangouts.
Overall the coffee was worth 4 stars, unfortunately the service and atmosphere brought it down a little for me. -
Review from David L.
Phoenix, AZ
Was working around the corner and saw this shack at the last minute.
I had to rush out of the house today with no coffee and no Wheaties. It wasn't going to be a hectic day thankfully, but having a giant latte and a bird seed bagel with cream cheese sure would hit the spot.
Thank you my friends!Listed in: Instant Coffee
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Review from Francesca H.
Phoenix, AZ
Good coffee. Casual, comfortable ambiance and I had no trouble finding a plug. They have a ton of local products and really yummy bagels and pastries. I don't know that I would continue to go out of my way to go here, but it was definitely not too shabby!
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Review from Erica D.
Phoenix, AZ
It takes forever for them to make a coffee. I have never been overly impressed, and wish that they would offer some gluten-free goodies! I heard that the Terrabite Bakery offers some GF goodies there, but I've never seen it. Although it's a cool atmosphere, I'm not sure I'm impressed enough to go back.
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Review from Lindsay T.
Tempe, AZ
I just moved down the street from this place and decided to give it a try the other day. I'm always in favor of supporting independant businesses over Four Bucks for the sake of morality, but they usually are not that much cheaper.
Not only was I thrilled to see some healthy items in the baked goods section, it's all homemade and doesn't look like it came from a factory. My iced coffee was amazing and the owner is such a nice guy!! Introduced himself and welcomed me to the neighborhood.
A nice roomy place with wifi is always nice compared to the crowded-by-retail BS in Starbucks. -
Review from Erika V.
Phoenix, AZ
New in town, I had heard nothing but good things about Mama Java's, so since I live half a mile up 36th, I decided to walk down and try it for myself. I walked in and was immediately introduced to a warm, welcoming atmosphere. A very popular place, there were many people, and there was still ample seating. As I approached the counter, I had asked a friendly employee what they would recommend. As soon as she had asked if I liked chocolate, I quickly nodded in confirmation. I didn't have to wait very long for preparation of my soy mocha, which tasted truly outstanding. I highly recommend Mama Java's Coffee House, it's very well worth the price...SO much better than commercially owned coffee houses like Starbucks.
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Review from Ladee R.
Phoenix, AZ
Great hideaway spot to work on the laptop an enjoy a coffee. Good value and made well Quiche slice is very tasty but small for $4. They have a lot of good choices. The coffee was well made. There is good seating.
I like it here and it's remained good over the years. I stopped by after a night at Beckett's Table nearby to have coffee, but was surprised to see that they were closed so early in the evening. -
Review from Melissa K.
Phoenix, AZ
Decided to try this placed based on the reviews and the fact that its pretty close to my house.
The vanilla latte is amazing...tastes great and leaves me feeling a tad "buzzed". Generally, I stop by on Sunday afternoons to chat it up with friends. Its busy, but not to the point where its difficult to find a place to sit. -
Review from Meschelle H.
Phoenix, AZ
I have loved this place for a long time. It troubles me that people write such negative things in their reviews. Hi, it costs money to have a credit card machine and if you don't spend over five bucks it costs the COMPANY money. Duh. And in regards to closing early, yes, it is a bummer. However, it would be a far greater bummer if they had to close down instead. In an economy where businesses are disappearing left and right, they are still here. That says a lot.
The coffee is delicious, latte art very cool and the new baked goods made in-house are absolutely to die for. Keep up the great work guys! -
Review from Greg R.
Phoenix, AZ
One of the best cup O' Latte in town! Hands down! It's a little off the beaten path for me but when I am in that neck of the woods, (er concrete..) I hit the brakes!
Now they also have some of the best baked goods and treats baked by a good friend of mine! Trust me am not just saying this for brownies...they are good! She creates gluten free stuff also! -
Review from Vlad H.
Phoenix, AZ
I'd give MJ's 5 stars if they stayed open later, which they used to do. It's completely understandable why they don't - they weren't getting the business after 6 to support later hours. And they tried - live music, amateur poetry (is there any other kind?), art shows, etc.
The coffee is good, the staff can be a bit forgetful but it's more amusing than annoying, it's comfortable, free wifi, lots of space for meetings/studying, lots of natural light (run trolls, run), and they now have a new section of gluten-free baked goods - to my knowledge the only in the area.
As for the credit card service charge - it's never been an issue for me. I usually carry some cash or can find two quarters in my car and, to be honest, I'd gladly pay an extra half-dollar to drink good joe rather than that burnt swill SBX pushes. -
Review from M E.
Phoenix, AZ
It's cute. It's homey. However...
You close at 6pm on a Wednesday night
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You were going to charge me 50 cents to process my debit card
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I left with one drink and won't be back
Too bad too since my best friend lives around the corner. We would have lived here ... -
Review from Emily W.
Okay, so I actually like Mama Java's coffee, expect for they looked at me crazy the other day when we asked for cream. Last I checked Cream and Sugar are the coffee standards. Anyway, my problems lies in what has happened in the coffee world. I know there is the big debate between Sbux and smaller privately owned coffee shops. I am the first to admit that yes I prefer the smaller shops. Here is my problem....
Products take on the name as the product, i.e Band-aid, Levis, Q-tip, Duck Tape, ect. I think it is VERY rude to correct a customer when you know what they mean. This happened to me - I should have stated Medium however I forgot and said Grande - OMG shoot me now, the look of disgust and the correction. I wanted to take my $4 back and go to Sbux, at least they don't correct you and the customer is always right
This become more evident when I was at Tuesday morning with a friend and I told her we should grab some coffee, but I actually had to tell her before we went in to not say Grande. She laughed her light hearted self and rolled with it. Really though, I have to tell a friend make sure you order correctly.
Anyway, the last straw was yesterday when my boyfriend asked for cream in his ice coffee and they stared at him like it was crazy. I get wanting to be a liberal elitist, I think of my self as one sometimes. You just can't forget the customer is the business. If you know what they mean roll with it - DONT correct them. For $4 a cup of fancy coffee, I'll go to Crate and Barrell and buy a cappuccino maker and make my own. Yes Mama Java - this liberal elitist knows how to make her own. -
Review from Jonathan B.
Litchfield Park, AZ
I don't understand why people are complaining about the credit card processing fee (50¢ on under $5) - the vendors are required to pay for transactions done by card, and a lot of little shops lose some money on single-item purchases.
That said, the staff was very friendly and service was awesome for a 2-woman crew on a busy Sunday morning.
If I lived out here it would be a no-brainer to make this my default coffee shop. I will be back whenever I'm in the neighborhood again. -
Review from jenifer s.
Sonoita, AZ
If you want a coffee house that makes coffee like its their own personal artwork, this is the place. Great service, great atmosphere and most importantly, great coffee that is made how it is supposed to be made.
on the comments about the .50 credit card charges...obviously these people have no clue how expensive it is to have a credit card machine and how much each transaction costs. It is hard for mom and pop shops to survive in the world of greed lusting chains. -
Review from Marius E.
Phoenix, AZ
PROS: Coffee quality, espresso quality, Barista skill, Barista friendliness, espresso drink menu is outstanding in terms of options and clever twists, and Layout/design is SUPERBLY inviting and cozy, and its perfectly lit, mostly taking advantage of natural light. Pleasing mix of live entertainment. Free Wifi, and 80% of the patrons seem to be using it at any given time for hours on end (coffee shop commuter office).
Middle of the Road: nothing, really, the elements of this place are either very good (see above) or rather bad (see below).
CONS: Those damned debit card charges are kind of annoying. Staff can get overwhelmed at peak times. Breakfast stuff is fair to slightly-above-average quality, but surprisingly limited for such a popular place. Location is humble (but convenient), smashed between a scary looking bar and a weird hardware-type retailer.
Probably my third favorite local coffee shop in the valley behind 32 Shea and Coffee Roastery on Hayden (and I've tried dozens and dozens of them), and I definitely beat a path to Mama Java's whenever I'm in the area. -
Review from Georgeann G.
Phoenix, AZ
We wandered in here after walking back to the Zipp's parking lot for vehicle retrieval. I got a delicious peach iced tea that I didn't want to end. However, I just walked half a mile in 100 degree weather, so it had to.
They have adorable little treats for only $.60 each (or 3 for $1.50). The chocolate covered macaroon was by far the best. Much like the elusive "Bon Bon" I feel like I've heard a lot about Macaroons in my life, while never actually tasting one, so I'm glad that changed with Mama Java.
Also, they have a toy sushi set that I really enjoyed. It was among the books. Next to the Mr. Potato Head. I think it was for children, but I'm easily amused so I had a fun time with it.
The only thing I would change is the $.50 surcharge for credit card transactions. But their macaroons are only $.60. I could probably scrounge up that kinda coin from my car any given day, so I'm not too worried about it. -
Review from Angela S.
Tempe, AZ
Mama Java's is very cute. We used to have work meetings in the back room (well, they company I work for still does but I don't work there anymore). My favorite thing about Mama Java's is that they have MATTE!!!!!:)
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Review from Julia T.
Meh...it was fine. Props for being an independent coffee shop, but Mama Java's is not quite my flavor.
I am so not a fan of a super bright coffee shop. I like some nice dim lighting with comfy chairs and couches. They have mostly little bistro tables with wood chairs, not so comfy. Mama Java's is more a wall of windows and very bright light. I am not saying it is wrong, just not where I want to hang.
This place could probably be a nice place to hang out at with a makeover. Some drapes, more comfy chairs and sofas, a dimmer switch. Calling all designers, please do a makeover.
The espresso was decent, and I had a ham and cheese on a croissant that was basic but good. Although a little lettuce on the sandwich wouldn't have hurt. It really was just ham and cheese, good, but nothing to write home about.
The staff was super nice, but this place just needs some help if it's going to be a great coffee place to hang out at. Closing at 6PM daily does not help either.Listed in: Chains suck, go here instead., Caffeine!!!!!
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Review from Sara B.
Tempe, AZ
Don't be fooled -- Mama Java's isn't a coffeeshop; it's actually a secret portal into Eugene, Oregon. Yes, really, right in that funky strip mall on Indian School, next to the Tuesday Morning.
They have it all: hipster baristas, art on the walls, laid-back, slightly funky vibe. They even have the requisite kooky, befuddled, aging hippie behind the counter. He can't quite remember your order, but it's OK, because he's probably going to make you something delicious anyway, and he won't be a dick when you tell him it's the wrong thing.
They've also got that special brand of uppity-ness that you only find in coffeeshops -- you know, the kind that leads the baristas to post handwritten signs forbidding you from using your cell at the counter. Again, it's OK. After all, if you're on the phone while order, you are, in fact, a total fucking douche.
The coffee's pretty tasty and the beans seem fresh, and they have a great setup for studying or working -- even tables in a little back nook that are perfect for groups. Free wifi, of course, and what looked to be a tasty small menu.
Now if only they could transplant some evergreens to block out Indian School Road...then it really would be like Oregon.Listed in: The Caffeination Station
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Review from Tuyen N.
I can't work at home because the bed always calls my name. So I needed a place to go where it would slightly uncomfortable to sleep at, offered free-wi-fi and possibly have cute boys I can pretend to not stare at.
Mama Java's fulfilled one of my requirements: it was definitely not a place I could nap at. There are lots of tables, not enough outlets for your laptop and only ONE couch that I wouldn't even think about having drunk sex on. To be fair, this is a coffee shop, not a whore house so ignore my last comment.
What I meant was that it isn't a cozy place, rather cold, actually. I'm used to smaller coffee places where its warm from the steaming coffee cups, the closeness of people sitting around me and the many couches or arm chairs. I just need a hug at Mama Java's.
There was only one guy at the counter when I was there and a long line but I don't have anything important to get to so I didn't mind the wait. I ordered a non-fat chai latte and it okay. Too sugary and strong spices.
I'm actually writing this review as I'm finishing up here at Mama Java's. It's getting cold and I have to go pee really bad, so I have to wrap up this review and head home, which is just down the street. I have a shy bladder. -
Review from Amanda H.
Phoenix, AZ
Love this place! They're so friendly and the coffee is fantastic. I'm a sucker for Starbucks because of the drive thru... but the more I visit Mama Java's the more I remember just how bad Starbucks really is. If you haven't visited this place yet, do it!
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Review from Sarah G.
Scottsdale, AZ
This place is right down the street from my house. It's close and in a great location (small shopping mall with a Zipps).
I really, really want to like this place, but for some reason the Barista's cannot get my order right! I do not like 3 pumps of any flavor in my latte, it's frankly too much flavor. Especially vanilla, it is already strong on it's own. Not sure why all these places claim to have the best coffee and espresso yet mask if with all the sugary flavors! All I ask for is a one pump vanilla latte, that's it! By the time I get to my car to take my first sip, it's ALWAYS WRONG. Guess I should drink it at the table to make sure it's right. I even see the barista write it down on the cup. Hmm not sure the disconnect here.
If you are looking for free wifi and a decent selection, check this place out. Just make sure you bring enough $$ so they don't charge the ridiculous .50 charge for using a card! -
Review from Gabi M.
Quick update for Mama Java's since we had the Yelp Office Hours there last week... we lucked out and were able to take over the couch / chairs to the right when you walk in the door. It worked out perfectly!
Even though I hadn't been in to MJ in a couple of months, Jensy remembered that I drank a soy latte - incredible! I felt so special (almost like a regular) when I walked in and she greeted me and asked if I wanted a soy latte! I did, and it was just as good as last time!
The atmosphere provided the perfect place for the yelpers to come and go, chat, etc... I think everyone felt comfortable and welcome. Thanks again to all of you who came by to visit! Looking forward to the next time...
Lastly, MJ created a yelper special of the day... the "hold me closer tiny yelper' which i believe was a vanilla cinnamon latte. Now if that didn't make us feel special, what does?!Listed in: Coffee, Tea, & Me!
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3/14/2008
I think it helps to go to Mama Java's with a 'regular'!
I went in to Mama Java's this morning with my… Read more »
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3/14/2008
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Review from Regan W.
Phoenix, AZ
I was thrilled that two places I'd bookmarked from Yelp were in the same strip mall! After my mani/pedi, I walked down to Mama Java's for an iced coffee.
The inside of this place was very cute -- very funky coffeehouse.
The guy working was a little odd -- very nice, but a little absent-minded. I asked for an iced coffee and he got me hot coffee. I told him I wanted it iced and he was like, "oh yeah! Right!"
I got my iced coffee with sugar free hazelnut syrup. It was really delicious, and really pretty reasonably priced. It was one of the better iced coffees I've had. Not a Starbucks fan (it always tastes burnt), so I'm always on the lookout for new places. I like supporting the smaller, independent coffee houses anyway -- they seem to have a better vibe, and it's always a good idea to support small businesses.
Even though the guy working was a little odd, I will definitely be back. Good prices and great product! -
Review from Wendy K.
Phoenix, AZ
Mama Java...often the highlight of my day!
Ok, so i might be a bit of a caffeine addict and while i am sure that contributes to feeling good almost every time i walk in the door at Mama Java, it is also the coffee and the staff that make me smile. Best coffee, truly! Jensy and Billie (the baristas) are sweet, fun, friendly and truly coffee prodigies. I am sure they will have their very own coffee shop someday soon but for now I am happy to give them my $4.06 everyday like clockwork!! -
Review from Stevey P.
Phoenix, AZ
After catching a musician's show here the other day, I disagree with the reviews that rave about the artsy ambiance. The warm cozy feeling is impossible with the floor the ceiling glass windows out front. Aside from a few pieces of art on the wall, the atmosphere (including the decor and lighting) seemed pretty pedestrian and forgettable. It's on the opposite side of the spectrum compared to Three Roots, Lux or Copper Star in that respect. If you don't luck out and snag the sofa or easy chair you could be subject to the most uncomfy cafe chairs ever.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate an independent coffeehouse like Mama Java's that supports the arts, local performers and functions as a community center. But this seemed like this could have been "Generic Coffee House, Anytown, USA."
I'm not a coffee drinker, so I opted for iced tea -- wild strawberry black tea over ice, to be exact. But that's not what the barista thought I ordered here. She gave me hot tea, which was decently brewed and tasty, btw. I went back up to ask for it over ice and proceeds to give me a small ramekin of ice, before she finally clued in and realized I wanted iced tea. She was really cool about it and we shared a laugh. No big deal, but worth mentioning.
The crowd of patrons was diverse this Friday night - streaming in steadily all night. Some dude straight up ordered a bowl of cereal, sat down, slurped it up and left satisfied. Hey, whatever floats your boat, right? -
Review from Heidi E.
I love Mama Java's. They have free WiFi, every Sunday night they have a Bluegrass jam session and their coffee drinks, chais and teas are excellent.
But, what makes me adore them is what I experienced during one visit. The night before, I had put my debit card, cash and ID in my pocket to go to a show, and forgot to transfer them back to my wallet. I didn't realize this until I had placed and received my order. The woman behind the counter said "don't worry about it, you win some and you lose some" and then the woman behind me offered to pay for my drink. I dug into my wallet and gave them all of the change I had, which probably amounted to 32 cents. You gotta love a place where everyone is invested in making sure you get your caffeine fix. -
Review from Mr K.
With a friendly barrista staff, Mama Java's is one of those coffeehouses you immediately feel comfortable at. Good coffee with a nice, unassuming atmosphere, including a real comfy couch which you can sit back and relax on. Free Wi-Fi and live entertainment on most nights (eg. bluegrass on Sundays, open mic on Tuesdays) are big pluses, too.
Definitely a positive attribute to the Arcadia neighborhood.Listed in: Caffei-nation
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Review from Holly R.
I will start with the disclaimer that I love independent coffee shops. I'm not a Starbucks girl. So I think I wanted to like Mama Java's better than I actually did.
My co-worker and I headed there one afternoon to do a little work. We walked in and there was nobody there (but it was the middle of the afternoon on a weekday). The barista must have been hard of hearing because even though it was pretty quiet in there we had to repeat our orders several times. But he got them right eventually so I guess that's what really matters.
We sat down at a little table near the window and over time the place did start to fill up. But there was just something about the vibe in there that I wasn't feeling that day. I can't put my finger on it but it just wasn't the comfy coffeehouse feeling I'm used to at other places. Maybe it was just what I was working on.
I would go back but I wouldn't rush back. Sorry! -
Review from Kevin A.
Phoenix, AZ
Mama Java's feels like it belongs in a small college town. The three times I've been here the clientele has been younger, relaxed, and friendly. As are the employees.
The only reason I'm not giving Mama Java's five stars is because the only thing I've tried is their house coffee, which is very good.
This is one of the coffee houses in central Phoenix where I can be pretty confident of finding an empty seat next to an electrical outlet to take advantage of their free wireless. Although they do have live music that at times fills the front of the house, there is a separate area in the back with bar-style seating and seating for about a dozen. There's a pretty good chance I can get some work done at Mama Java's anytime. -
Review from Iain B.
Phoenix, AZ
Decent, somewhat eclectic. Nice mix of people. Coffee drinks, good nothing special. But overall, in this boring city, amongst a sea of Starbucks, you have to respect an independent coffee shop that survives.
They could froth a little better, perhaps a quick frothing inservice is in order for the slacker-like employees?
Free internet, good place to study, laid back. -
Review from Jeff L.
Phoenix, AZ
Was walking by and really wasn't in the mood for coffee.....but.....something won me over. Don't know if it was that I was just having a 'leisure day' or didn't want to go home and do household chores I've been putting off or the look of the place and that it wasn't busy at all. (I'm going with a combination of all four options with a HEAVY leaning towards not wanting to get home and do chores.) ;-)
So, in I walked and went for an iced mocha. Made quickly and professionally. I almost opted for a rugala....and now I wish I had since several reviews say they are great. Next time....
Like I said, it wasn't busy....nice and quiet....which is good for coffee time. For me, anyway.
Liked the vibe of the place....a few small tables and chairs and a couch...(or two?). There is free wi-fi available.....cool, cool, cool.
They seem to sometimes have live music which if I have a night off may go back for. And they have some breakfast options available too - breakfast sandwiches and omelettes. Nothing too fancy or extravagant but good to know if I'm up early and want breakfast.
Will definitely go back and try it out again. -
Review from Shanna K.
Great food, great prices.
Not so friendly for computers; not a ton of outlets, and the internet was a little shaky upon the few times I used it.
However, they have delicious knishes and ruggulah, and this little Jewess has to give them mega points for that, as well as their $.25 refills on the daily iced tea, and their amazing photos/books of animals waiting to be adopted. Broke my heart a little, and I almost went home with a 4th fur kid, but I love coffee shops that are actively a part of the community.
My favorite barista Meschelle doesn't seem to work there anymore, but I love the atmosphere of chill during the day, the books to read, and the drink AND food menus. Great local, indie owned coffee place. I do wish they had more than one iced tea option, especially since kiwi strawberry seems common, and I'm not so much a fan. -
Review from Frances L.
Los Angeles, CA
Mama Java's was my go-to place when I needed to be totally alone. The Phoenix coffee scene (yes, I actually did just say that) is pretty small so most of the time you end up running into someone no matter where you go in the downtown area. Mama Java's is just far east enough, without leaving Phoenix city limits and venturing off into Scottsdale or Tempe, to get the peace you need. Small, cozy, and friendly. Coffee is good, food is fair, and the service is genuine and welcoming. It's located in an old shopping center that houses an antique store and an old bookstore, too. Lots of parking and free wi-fi. Definitely in my top 10 coffee hangouts in town.
Listed in: Coffee Crack Addicts United!
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Review from Liz D.
San Angelo, TX
I popped in here yesterday with my boyfriend to kill some time before going somewhere else. We were there around 5pm and there were only four other people there and two people behind the counter. They kind of left us alone until we were ready to order something, which I really liked. However, we shared a Frozen Mocha and it was just not very good.
I thought it tasted like like the coffee had been burnt, but my boyfriend said it was more likely they used a powder mix instead of real coffee.
Also, it took them almost ten minutes to make this one drink with only 5 people in the entire place--four of which were at different tables talking and reading.
The place itself looks cool and they have a bunch of books if you want to read one, but I didn't want to be there too long since we had somewhere else to be. The drink we got, which was only 16oz was overpriced for $5.50. Cool and comfortable location, but as of right now Starbucks has better cold drinks, in my opinion.
Maybe we'll go back another time and try something else.
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Review from Vicki P.
Chugiak, AK
As an out-of-towner, I found this place by accident and was completely thrilled with it. The Americano was as good as those I find at home and the breakfast sandwiches hit the spot. In a place where Starbucks seems to be on every corner, it was very refreshing to find such a fine indy coffee place.
The free wi-fi was a great bonus. -
Review from Ben M.
Carlsbad, CA
I usually go to coffee shops to work and Mama Javas is a strong contender in my rotation. They have free internet and a variety of comfortable seats inside and out. The coffee is great but the snacks and food leave a bit to be desired.
I enjoy the art they have on the walls which is rotated regularly. They have regular live entertainment including open Mic Nights which draw quite a crowd. Even when packed and loud I am still able to find comfort and quiet space to work in the back room. -
Review from Jimmy H.
Scottsdale, AZ
Pretty sweet little spot with nice and bitter espresso and quality artwork on the walls. Doesn't 'try too hard' to be a hipster joint or to differentiate itself, instead seeming to pride itself on an innate classic-ness.
It seems ridiculous to use such words describing a coffee shop, but coffee seems to have a life of its own when it comes to creating its own subculture, similar to wine.
