Kennedy's Irish Pub & Curry House
Categories: Pubs, Sports Bars, Indian/Pakistani [Edit]
Neighborhood: North Beach/Telegraph Hill1040 Columbus Ave
(between Chestnut St & Houston St)
San Francisco, CA 94133 (415) 441-8855
- Hours:
Mon-Sun 11:00 a.m.-2:00 a.m. - Price Range: $
- Accepts Credit Cards: Yes
- Parking: Street
- Attire: Casual
- Good for Groups: Yes
- Good for Kids: No
- Takes Reservations: No
- Delivers: No
- Take-out: Yes
- Waiter Service: Yes
- Wheelchair Accessible: Yes
- Outdoor Seating: Yes
- Good for: Dinner, Late Night
- Music: Juke Box
- Best Nights: Thu, Fri, Sat
- Happy Hour: Yes
- Alcohol: Beer & Wine Only
- Smoking: Outdoor Area/Patio Only
- Coat Check: No
73 reviews
Neighborhood: Outer Sunset
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295 Reviews for Kennedy's Irish Pub & Curry House
Must say that it was the oddest combination of all... Irish pub and Indian restaurant. My theory is that the owner is Irish and his wife Indian, and they wanted to run a joint with a little bit of both culture. We only stayed for a round, and a Hoegaarden for $5 wasn't bad either. I haven't gotten a chance to try its food, so next time I swing by I'll make sure I get more of a wholesome experience.
This place bring to mind three letters: WTF?
I came here with co-workers Friday and was a bit perplexed by the joint. An Irish pub, Indian food, what looks to be a souvenir shop....it's an interesting mix to say the least.
For a Friday happy hour there was ONE bartender working. She was great and funny, but she needed more help. The line went out the door. Beers seemed to be priced ok. A friend got some munchies and he had no complaints on the food. The outside seating was good, since it was very hot inside.
It's a "standard" neighborhood bar (as far as Irish/Indian fusion can be). As long as you're having fun with friends then its all good anyways. I'm sure all go back with co-workers again.
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My turn ons include hybridity, anti-essentialism and post-colonial discourse, and nothing wrecks my appetite like cultural imperialism. Accordingly, I was stoked when I walked into Kennedy's: Irish pub on the front and Pakistani restaurant in the back. Add to the mix the restaurant takes an expansive view on what Pakistani food is (they were serving dosas!) and was being run by two Chinese women; I thought this was going to be my go to bar to eat curries, drink pints and discuss globalization.
Alas! After being seated in the restaurant, I waited fifteen minutes for the server to come take my order. Eye contact, hand gestures and oral requests all had no effect on the help at this place. Fifteen minutes was all my pride and conscience could stomach. Unfortunately, hybridity as theory or restaurant might stimulate my mind, but with service like that, it will never satiate my gut.
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Kennedy's is down the street from the San Francisco Art Institute so I've spent a few nights here with some colleagues. Their many draft beers effectively washed away the tears of boredom after sitting through countless droll and tedious lectures by European conceptual artists.
I've not eaten any of the food but none of my compatriots have ever been rushed to the hospital with botulism after having a curry so I figure it's safe enough.
The beer maidens are actually legitimate bartenders and not just there to look good which unfortunately is a rarity in many bars these days. Sure, a good looking girl will draw a crowd of irritating guys to a bar who are going to throw money at her in a vain attempt to impress but that's not going to force her to actually learn how to bar-tend.
The music in this place is atrocious. I think they have a jukebox where you can download whatever song you want for like 2 dollars. What a rip-off. A jukebox should cost one dollar for 3 plays. As one would expect, the douche-bag backwards baseball hat crowd have as little refinement in musical taste as they do in casual wear. Fuck them for being in my city. Face your hats properly, stop smoking so much pot, listen to some music that wasn't made on a computer, pull your pants up, and start wearing condoms so I won't have to see more of you. Straighten up and fly right you fucking fucks.
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Kennedy's rocks! My procrastinating ass has only taken 3 years to say it out loud. Seriously, I've frequented Kennedy's so many times my mom would be offended (she makes the BEST South Indian food!).
Whether you're going there for beer, delicious (and cheap!) Indian food, or to play pool, you will have fun. The place is totally chill and the service is friendly, and did I mention cheap?!!, you won't be disappointed. Oh yeah, they also have wonderful tokens at the bar (whoops! hope I didn't shout that!) for free beer! I just got two freebees from the very nice bartender lady tonight (which was the tipping point in me writing this review FINALLY). I say Kennedy's just keeps getting better and better!
How could I have been so careless!!
I've been going to this place for years and I'm just writing my first review. We'll I've been busy.
Busy doing what you might ask?
Sampling 111 of their 150+ beers they have. Seriously, this is a great place for beer. They have about 33 beers on tap and over 100 bottles, plus wine for the brave.
A little secret... if you drink 100 different beers or more you get lifetime discounts. Ask the bartender, but don't tell them I told you. Just finished mine a few weeks ago. It took me about 2 1/2 months.
Not only do they have a great beer selection, they have saki shots, soju shots, fooseball tables, pool tables, air hockey, and a back and front outdoor seating area.
Best part? The attached restaraunt serves food until 1 am every night. and they have pretty decent indian food, especially if you've been hard at work sampling their beers all night long.
Happy hour every night from 5 to 7 pm and 11 to 11:30 pm.
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Tasty Indian curry dishes, friendly and helpful employees, a fun place to hang out to people watch, and the best place in San Francisco for a three table, Tornado foosball tournaments by the SFfoos Group on Yahoo.
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Late evening Indian food at an Irish pub, yeah, how bad could that be to add a couple inches to your waist?!
This place is not small and without pretentious service (almost bland) but who cares, we were here to eat.
Good and simple Indian food-- aloo paratha was good, chicken vindaloo was great, lamb sagwala was not bad. And they have a pretty extensive list of beer (import and domestic.)
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An idea I would've never thought of. An Irish pub meets Pakistani food is brilliant. My boyfriend and I were seated upon arrival. The server took our order, but the food took a while to arrive (20 minutes). I ordered the Chicken Masala Dosa which is ENORMOUS! This dish should be shared between 2-3 people. I took home leftovers to last me breakfast, lunch, and dinner the next day. I found it rather odd that I got the papadums after I got my main entree, but it was fine with me. I picked on it as I ate my dosa. The coconut sauce that is served with the dosa is my favorite of all the sauces. It also goes well with the mint chutney. I washed it down with a Lagunitas Maximus IPA. I was stuffed and satisfied. I would definitely go back to try other dishes. As far as hard liquor, they don't have it there. But they do have a considerable amount of beer to chose from.
Aside from the food and service, this place would be great before a show at Cobb's Comedy Club or for happy hour. There are many things to do with a large group, billiards, video games, foosball table, and great beer. I did minus one star because our food took so long to arrive at our table. I suggest you come here with good company and for the great food.
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It's ok, I was looking for a different bar that cab dropped us off here. They have an impressive amount of bottle micro brews and a generous amount on tap as well. I'm a total beer snob although they had a variety of beer but is by far not the best in SF. I took off one star for not being impressed by the beer selection and another for the overpowering smell of curry. I know this pub is also a curry joint but damn that smell was strong it was hard to enjoy my beer.
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It was one of THE most weirdest places I've experienced.. my eyes told me I was somewhere in San Francisco but my taste buds were convinced I was in Bombay..!! We had the pakodas (veggie fritters) to start with and they were AWESOME! what made them even better were the chutneys..! We were filled up on the pakodas and beer so we thought we'd have something light.. so got the veggie roll and the kebaab roll... nothing light about them.. portions were HUGE...I absolutely enjoyed the veggie roll which had chick peas in it... that was so different from what I'm used to but so YUMMM!
Their spice levels aren't for the faint hearted... they were exactly how Indian food should be..!
Can't wait to go back and try more off their menu..!
This review is long over due. I love Kennedy's! I don't know if it is all the beer, or their delicious veggie wraps that I am constantly craving. There are so few places where you can get Irish pub, Indian food, and pool/foosball action all in one. It is like a dream come true. I can not seem to help coming here when I am in the area, and it ways seems like I do the same exact thing. Pitcher of beer, samosas and veggie wrap, and a game of pool. Take a group of friend and chill. The food is reasonable and very tasty, and the beer is plentiful. Perfect harmony.
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I was so confused the first time i came here! i was not prepared for an Indian restaurant literally INSIDE an Irish bar. i guess i just thought people were exaggerating!
Really good dosas and the deep fried onion appetizer (not sure what it's called) is fantastic.
i love the concept, but i generally have more fun coming here when i'm already on my way to drunk. Maybe it's the d-bags playing pool and the weird groups of people that I've run into that annoy me when i'm sober and trying to savor my dosa...i tend to be (slightly) more tolerant when buzzed...
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Chuck E. Cheese for adults. Basically.
Irish pub + Indian food + Air Hockey + Pool + outdoor patio + $5 pitcher of PBR + $2 Guinness.
It really doesn't get any better than this.
I want to give this place a hug.
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This is certainly quite the interesting combo-an Irish/Indian restaurant and pub in Little Italy. But we had to try it-after all, they take call ahead orders and in a word, that's "awesome."
We ordered a Chicken Vindaloo and a Ghobi Aloo (sp?) And both came out within minutes of us finding great parking on a Sunday, getting sat and adjusted to the setting of foosball tables, dart boards, pool tables and BEER. Lots and lots of beer everywhere.
The food was excellent, and the naan? Oh my friggin' god is the garlic naan some righteous stuff. Imagine they just unpeeled a clove of garlic and decided it would be a great idea to shove it around flatbread and call it a day. That's garlic naan. Spewing with raw garlic. Not for wussies and not for someone on a first date. What are you doing taking someone to a curryh house for a first date anyhow? Shame on you!
The beer selection is also vast? Did I mention like triple digit beers? I could die of alcohol poisoning before I get through of all it. The really sweet owner who also tends the register and serves you and pours beer and all that just didn't know when to stop. I'm coming in again for happy hour and maybe some late night Indian food. Kitchen's open till 1:30. Awesome. Can you say "awesome?"
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Kennedy's is the shit. They have THE best Indian food I've ever eaten and a bar full of any beer I could ever want. They have $2 bottles, pool tables, games, and lots of space to just chill. If you want a good, inexpensive meal and a place to drink after, then go to Kennedy's.
This dive bar reminds me of my school days in New York trying to get served without ID. But the added bonus of Kennedy's is the indian food. Genius, pure genius. They gotta be making a killing. Anyhow, I had the food last night while sober ,and was pleased to discover that it actually was great food. The other times I've been pretty off my rocker and just gobbled it down. But yes, the food is damn good. The jasmine rice is so fluffy! Pitchers of beer and playing pool while eating Indian cuisine is just an experience that can't be missed.
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The chill spot for young adults and old farts alike hahaha
I came here with a few buds during happy hour, curry and beer make a great combo when you're hungry and need a break from a week's worth of crap. green curry totally gave me a sweat, like having sex in humid weather.
This place is awesome. the best irish pub & curry house i've ever been too.. a very large space, cool table games, very good indian food, it's $5 for a beer, but they do have quite a selection. sometimes they have deals on pitchers too. it's a good reason to take the cable car if you have your muni pass (or if you don't) because it's right at the taylor stop down by the bay.i forgot to mention they have a small outdoor area too.
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i gave Kennedy's 4 stars because of it's location. It's always a pain in my back side tryin to get my drunkin ass home late at night. it seems that all the taxi cabs have other drunkin people from the fisherman's wharf/pier 39 area in them and the 30 Stockton is a joke at one in the morning. so i pretty much WALK ALL the way home. No fun.
besides the location it's seriously a rad bar. you cant beat HOW MUCH beer they have there! Ive never been to a bar that had THIS MUCH BEER. they have Foosball tables, air hockey, pool tables, an OKAY jukebox, an out door patio to take a smoke break, you can bring your beer outside with ya (which is trusting of the bar i must say!) and a freakin Indian restaurant in the middle of the bar!! that's what gets me every time!! you cant beat that. honestly.
take the chance of possibly walking home because you WILL come back again!
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What the? Irish Pub... Curry House?
They serve mainly beer? I wanted a shot of Jamesons!
Ok, go with a pint of Guinness.
They got Indian food?
I'm buzzed... lets get some appetizers.
Buffalo wings were good... could of been spicier!!!
Chicken Pakoara was ok.
Vegetable Samosa looks yummy...
So good my friend put one in her purse to go... love it!
Crunch crunch... onion fritters.
Yes... keep greasing me up!
Dude... this stuff makes good drunk food.
Spacious
Couple of foosball tables.
Pool
Did I say beer? Lots of beer!
Wait a freaking minute!!! You have raspberry lambic??
Yes... gotta love the framboise.
I love you guys! And it's not the beer talking!
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There's nothing better than some Irish beer and spicy curry! We always sit outside, which allows us to be loud and obnoxious. I love the decor, even if it is a bit kitschy. The bartenders are always good for a laugh, they are so friendly and recommend exactly what you might be looking for.
LOVE this place!
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Boddington's on tap - sadness the keg was run dry!!!
Fat Tire on tap - ok, not Boddington's but that's cool
Guinness - Happy Hour - 2 bucks a pint poured slow and right, if you're special as they pull the tap, you'll get a wee shamrock shape in your foam. Now that is awesome!
Happy Hour - you buy a regularly priced beer, you get a gold little chip and you can use it anytime to get a free beer. Great that you get the free beer, dangerous because your two beers can easily become 4 beers and so on. Definitely makings for 'three sheets to the wind!"
To offset the beers had some of the Indian food.
Tasty, large, and delicious samosas - unreal size so tasty with lots of dipping sauce choices Didn't try anything else, but the restaurant always had a steady stream of customers.
I got a coupla of free tokens in my pocket, so I'll be back.
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Yelpers love this place - at least the Yelpers I'm used to hanging out with.
But my biggest problem with Kennedy's is it's lack of liquor. All I really want when I set foot in a bar is a Jack and Coke; or perhaps, more recently, a Southern Comfort and Lime. Maybe, on occasion, a Red Bull and vodka. But here, I'm forced to drink beer (wine at any bar other than a wine bar is consistently disappointing) if I plan on drinking at all. And you know how I despise beer. Well, you do now, at any rate.
But aside from the lack of real alcohol, I must say Kennedy's ain't half bad. It's got a lot of space, foozball, and actual food! I'm not talking bar food like sliders and egg rolls, but actual food! I've never eaten here, so I can't really make any meaningful comment about the food other than it exists.
One of my favorite Saturdays ever in S.F. began at La Note in Berkeley, and continued at Kennedy's for a post XYZ at the W elite event get together, followed by Mexican food (and a Mexican Coke) at some local taqueria, a return to Kennedy's, guitar hero at Christopher K.'s house, a birthday party at that place that looks like a funeral home (which I got kicked out of), another bar somehere near Jason K.'s house, and a late night get together at Jason K's place. Sitting on the outdoor patio at Kennedy's that perfect Saturday afternoon with wonderful SF Yelpers was definitely a cherished summer memory.
Now if I could only figure out how to sneak some Jack and Coke there next time I go...
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Ahhhh Kennedy's I ::heart:: you.
Some may say that Indian and Irish Pub don't go together but I would call these people fools. Great laid back atmosphere, gifreakingnormous samosas, air hockey, foosball, pool, bathrooms that are horrendous (check out the seashell sink in the ladies), great Indian food and great drink specials (2 for 1s, the 15th through the 30th you can buy drink tokens for $2.50 and use them on any beer in the joint the rest of the month).
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First things first, let's talk samosas:
Their samosas are giant. By that I mean they are bigger than big. If you said "hey, these are big samosas" you'd be fooling yourself. Giant is the best word to describe these. They are also tasty, and cheap. But I believe with all my heart and gut that no mortal should try to conquer both in an order. That is too much for the human digestive system to deal with. You will be burping them up for a good 16 hours.
On to the rest:
The food here is pretty tasty. And well priced. The beer selection is tasty, and decently priced (5 bucks a pint for stuff I bother drinking, but good happy hour specials) - although the happy hour line is pretty slow. It is big, and has foosball. There is plenty of seating for hanging out.
Basically it comes down to this - by all means, go to Kennedy's. Early and often, even. But beware the samosas - if you must have them, eat one, and have your friend eat the other one.
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Indian Food at an Irish Pub, well, this is San Francisco. I'd been in here 30 years ago when it was a cheap beer and steak place and now its a cheap beer and samosa joint... nothing changes!
$2 Happy Hour 2 for 1? Holy Moley and that's for me. There's an entryway in front, another one and then a rear one too. 3 portals into Nirvana, only expect a crowd. I felt sorry for the sole bartender as the lines kept getting longer by the minute and the crowd kept growing. Finally getting to me her pleasant "sure, I don't mind a large bill" on my Anchor request told me this was a lady of very steady nerves and patience. Change came with a smile and a token for the 2nd beer... perfection. Shortly afterwords 2 other BT's came and eased her load. They took care of business quite professionally.
The whole place looks like a hunting lodge now, wood beams, wooden chairs and plenty of games to keep you amused before or after dinner. I wasn't hungry as I'd eaten a little before going but sitting in the dining room with a couple of new friends chowing down provided me with some wonderful smelling and looking stuff. I'll make a point to try the food next time.
Kennedy's looks like a great second home.
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OK, heard allot of stuff about this place but was not impressed. The service for food was lousy and are server didn't speak a lick of English except for saying "yes". All not a big deal except the cost of food was not cheap. for the same price i could of eaten at a real restaurant and gotten better service and better food. The Chicken i will say was excellently cooked. Very tender and juicy! but the tomato based curry sauce it came with was only so so. the tomatoes tasted like they came out of a can of spaghettios. The place reminded me of a typical college hangout. The kind of place that prides itself on how "Divvy" it is but still charges full price for poor service. The whole purpose of pub food is that it's good AND cheap. this place suffers from trying to be too many things and not having any real identity. I think a better layout of this place would make it more appealing
Curry and Beer all in one?! HOT DAMN!
I wasn't hungry (I had just eaten..and yes. I EAT), but I was in the mood for continuing my buzz so I stepped inside and decided to try out a Stella. You would think that, with 33 beers on tap that I would think of something a little more interesting, but I didn't. I just wanted a damn lager.
So I took my beer outside and enjoyed the weather in all its wonderfulness along with a few cigarettes. Now, I might be just remarking upon *one pint* of beer, but there was the rest of the atmosphere that gave it 4 stars and will have me going back.
There are pool tables. There is an air hockey machine. Their bathroom's have a clam waterfall for a sink (thank goodness the toilets were normal). The hand dryers felt like it could move a pickup truck it blasted so hard, but yet so soft.
I'm going to head back this way again. What a great place to get completely smashed.
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The notion of an Irish pub that has pool, foosball, darts, a wide selection of beers on tap, AND serves Indian food sounded like a dream come true, so I had to try it. I was there around 1pm on a weekday and there was hardly anyone in there. The chicken wrap I had was pretty good. I would definitely go there again. The only reason I took off a star is because aside from the name, the place didn't seem all that Irish to me. It seemed more like an Indian restaurant with a decent bar next to it. There were hookas behind the bar and the place smelled like incense.
What do you get when you cross a bar with tons of beer on tap and an Indian Restaurant? KENNEDY'S. Don't try to understand it - just accept it. Food was good and beer was great. Open late which is a bonus. Although, the old saying, "Measure the restaurant by how clean the restrooms are" would make you run away from this place.
The only question about Kennedy's is: before or after the show?
I tacked on the extra star for location. Depending on my next visit it is likely to lose one for lack of parking!
Been here three times now and left happy and freezing every time. I like to pick up a beer at the bar and find a seat in the dining area. Then try to pick out something from the novel of a menu. Veggie somosa is big and tasty with just the right amount of filling! Pakora is only so so. Pretty sure I shared the Baigan Bharatha once and I am pretty sure it was amazing. Skip the tomato soup! It's hot and sounds like a good idea when you are freezing in the dining area but even the cilantro can't save it.
Service is just alright. They kinda give you the stink eye and I'm not sure why. Maybe that is just how they look. Eh, who cares about the stink eye it's wonderfully cheap and pretty damn good!
Ladies, bring your coat in...brrr. Oh and there is pool, foos, air hockey and a jukebox for those who wanna play something.
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beers, biriyani, and buddies!
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The food was excellent and the beer variety was impressive. Their policy around happy hour and half-price beer tokens was a bit confusing as a newcomer, but eventually made sense and was revealed as a smashing good deal on beer. However, the fact that I could have brewed a batch in the time I spent waiting in the line at the bar was souring. More efficient layout and more staffing would solve the problems.
Pool, air hockey, and foosball are all available, which is great. Getting there from the financial district took a little doing, though.
Trivia: The Irish/Indian combination is not actually as odd as it appears. Following the British Raj, Indian cuisine rapidly developed as a common option in England, where there are now over 8000 Indian restaurants.
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As a person who likes Indian style of curry, not just Japanese style, this place is great since I cannot drink alcohol much. But the $2 beer offer is definitely enticing for many people.
I went there for a gathering, and the group was able to accommodate varying number of people with ease, as at that time of the night there were enough tables to connect. The curries themselves were pretty good for $10 per person. They had enough taste and spice for their distinctive tastes but not too spicy for most people could eat without much problem.
In addition to the food and table, there were lots of arcade games and a pool table. That helped divert other people's attention and keep it fresh.
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I don't think people give this place enough credit for the many services that these guys provide. They're a bonafied conglomerate...like GE or Altria. They have an Irish Pub, Curry House, T-Shirt Stand (in back), paid parking lot (back), mail slots, you can book travel accommodations, they sell flowers, they have Pool, Air Hockey, Foosball, Juke Box, Big Screen HD TV's, Video Games and an ATM machine. What more do you want people? They were also recently featured on Eye on The Bay. Keep an eye out for the dapper fellow with thick glasses. If you blink you might miss him....but you won't miss him blinking.
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It never fails that whenever I mention Kennedy's Irish Pub and Curry House, people go "What?" :)
My favorite hang out in San Francisco!!! Where else can you go to get a foosball fix (3 Tornado foosball tables plus monthly tournaments), good Indian food and a pint of Guinness for $2 (Happy Hour)??? Plus you can't beat their drink token specials where you can buy $2.50 drink tokens from the 15th-20th of every month and redeem them for any pint and select bottles. Did I also mention their BOGO drink special, too? Wow! Who knew drinking could be so affordable in SF?
My fave foods from the restaurant are the Cable Car Chicken, Aloo Gobi, Tandoori Naan and Garlic Naan. The fried chicken appetizer is always a distraction. You can smell the goodness from across the bar! As for dessert, the Kheer is quite good. Their website offers a 15% off coupon.
Lots of beer to choose from plus a decent selection of wine. They also have a Century Club if your liver can handle all that beer. (Don't worry, it's at your own pace.) No hard alcohol but for those of you not interested in a beery taste, try a Belgium Lambic in multiple flavors. And plenty of room to roam around with 2 outside areas (out back and in front) and lots of space indoors.
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I just now tried to type out the review, but I accidentally clicked ahead and my review got erased when I clicked the back button...
Anyway, I digress. In short: atmosphere is not so conducive to long, relaxing conversations. They seem to cater more towards the crowd who goes here for the pub aspect. I find that rather disappointing since the food was really good; I had the Lamb Vindaloo with naan on the side. Really great deal--every meal comes with rice unless otherwise specified. Naan is rather cheap, too.
Service was okay, but they were quick, and the food was fresh. A tip to those who haven't visited yet: go to their website and get the 15% off coupon (print it out). They took $2 off my meal which was cool. Oh, and btw, the bathrooms are not the best, but they're relatively clean. They need to remodel the toilets though....both toilet top lids were off of the toilet for some reason.
And last note: Others have mentioned, but there are multiple entryways but just one spot has the "Please Wait to Be Seated" (the Columbus entrance). If you enter through the Francisco @ Taylor side, walk through the billiard room to the front. I think they need a sign indicating this, since others might get confused.
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I am still awed at the fact that this is an Irish Pub with Indian food. Unfortunately I didn't have the food, but I have heard that it is pretty good. I shall return for it, but for now..a review of my experience will do.
A nice selection of beers..i believe 33 on tap! Great for beer lovers. Hard times if you are a hard alcohol drinker, because they only offer beer and wine.
Environment: Not a bad hang out spot. Pool tables, foosball, and old classic rock with an occasional side of hip hop/r&b music continually playing. Hang out inside, or you can bring your drink out to the front patio and chill out here.
The sink in the bathroom was interesting. One toilet was clogged when I went, nothing poopy to complain about though.
Service: It was mediocre. Not fantastic, but not extremely horrible. Remember there is a $15 minimum if you use a card. There is an atm outside if you're wondering.
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yeahhh i still need to try that curry, maybe it's irish curry! maybe it's a heaving mound of love. who knows...kennedy's i shall return someday!
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